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Journey's pop rock blows away Rainbow's attempt at same. Much better tunes.



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Journey's pop rock blows away Rainbow's attempt at same. Much better tunes.



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I'm not a huge Journey fan, but just listen to the Greatest Hits album from 1988. everything there is a great tune. Journey in those days did awesome pop rock.
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REAL JOHNMCCOY wrote:

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RJD wrote:

Journey's pop rock blows away Rainbow's attempt at same. Much better tunes.



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I'm not a huge Journey fan, but just listen to the Greatest Hits album from 1988. everything there is a great tune. Journey in those days did awesome pop rock.




OK, I'll give them another chance and report to you afterwards (strange things happen when you check out some of the bands which you hated back then!) emoticon

To change the topic a bit - I always hated that Rainbow/JLT comparisons to Foreigner/Gramm. First of all the first Fandango record came out in 1976, one year before Foreigner's debut, thus it's Lou Gramm who was ripping of JLT. Secondly, I think JLT is far superior and quite different singer. Much more ballsy, bluesy, emotional if not so good technicaly. Lou always left me cold. There was something very heartless about his voice - quite the opposite to JLT. Not to mention that modern Turner sounds 100% NOTHING like Lou Gramm.

His undeniable influence awlays was and it's is even more obvious now - Paul Rodgers, a true kick ass bluesy legend. JLT is even closer to Pau then good old Coverdale if you listen carefuly. Just check out his Free/Bad Co cover versions.


And Rainbow's music never sounded anything like Foreigner at all. Even the most commercial tracks still had that euro cultural magic abut them (thanx to Ritchie and Purple school production) while Foreigner were 100% American in their sound...

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Re: Bent Out Of Shape - a review


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REAL JOHNMCCOY wrote:

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RickWells wrote:

quote:

REAL JOHNMCCOY wrote:

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RJD wrote:

Journey's pop rock blows away Rainbow's attempt at same. Much better tunes.



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I'm not a huge Journey fan, but just listen to the Greatest Hits album from 1988. everything there is a great tune. Journey in those days did awesome pop rock.




OK, I'll give them another chance and report to you afterwards (strange things happen when you check out some of the bands which you hated back then!) emoticon

To change the topic a bit - I always hated that Rainbow/JLT comparisons to Foreigner/Gramm. First of all the first Fandango record came out in 1976, one year before Foreigner's debut, thus it's Lou Gramm who was ripping of JLT. Secondly, I think JLT is far superior and quite different singer. Much more ballsy, bluesy, emotional if not so good technicaly. Lou always left me cold. There was something very heartless about his voice - quite the opposite to JLT. Not to mention that modern Turner sounds 100% NOTHING like Lou Gramm.

His undeniable influence awlays was and it's is even more obvious now - Paul Rodgers, a true kick ass bluesy legend. JLT is even closer to Pau then good old Coverdale if you listen carefuly. Just check out his Free/Bad Co cover versions.


And Rainbow's music never sounded anything like Foreigner at all. Even the most commercial tracks still had that euro cultural magic abut them (thanx to Ritchie and Purple school production) while Foreigner were 100% American in their sound...



Agreed on everything apart from Lou Gramm having a heartless voice, I was listening to Shadow King's one and only CD the other day and the man is stunning on tracks like Russia, hair raising stuff to say the least.

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Christos Gatzidis wrote:

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REAL JOHNMCCOY wrote:

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RickWells wrote:

quote:

REAL JOHNMCCOY wrote:

quote:

RJD wrote:

Journey's pop rock blows away Rainbow's attempt at same. Much better tunes.



 emoticon emoticon emoticon



I'm not a huge Journey fan, but just listen to the Greatest Hits album from 1988. everything there is a great tune. Journey in those days did awesome pop rock.




OK, I'll give them another chance and report to you afterwards (strange things happen when you check out some of the bands which you hated back then!) emoticon

To change the topic a bit - I always hated that Rainbow/JLT comparisons to Foreigner/Gramm. First of all the first Fandango record came out in 1976, one year before Foreigner's debut, thus it's Lou Gramm who was ripping of JLT. Secondly, I think JLT is far superior and quite different singer. Much more ballsy, bluesy, emotional if not so good technicaly. Lou always left me cold. There was something very heartless about his voice - quite the opposite to JLT. Not to mention that modern Turner sounds 100% NOTHING like Lou Gramm.

His undeniable influence awlays was and it's is even more obvious now - Paul Rodgers, a true kick ass bluesy legend. JLT is even closer to Pau then good old Coverdale if you listen carefuly. Just check out his Free/Bad Co cover versions.


And Rainbow's music never sounded anything like Foreigner at all. Even the most commercial tracks still had that euro cultural magic abut them (thanx to Ritchie and Purple school production) while Foreigner were 100% American in their sound...



Agreed on everything apart from Lou Gramm having a heartless voice, I was listening to Shadow King's one and only CD the other day and the man is stunning on tracks like Russia, hair raising stuff to say the least.




Sorry, Christos, I never heard Shadow King. Are they good? What do they sound like? Your opinion is surely the one to be trusted! The latest Lou Gram that I heard is a couple of recent unplugged versons of Foreigner classics on their new remasters. Now that was HORRIBLE! They guy totally lost his voice or so it seemed. Glad to be wrong.
 Now if we look back at Foreigner I can name a truly breathtaking performance from Lou - Blinded by Science. What a song! Starrider wasn't bad either. But otherwise he was always a bit sterile for me, if you know what I mean - unlike Joe.
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Don't get me wrong I'd take JLT over Lou Gramm any day but at the same time I can't overlook the fact that he's a great singer too.

Shadow King is the band Lou Gramm put together after leaving Foreigner in the early 90s with none other than Vivian Campbell on the guitar. It's basically similar to Foreigner in style only with an updated production and a better (and heavier) guitar sound. A great melodic rock album which I find myself playing much more often than Lou's former band...
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