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Santana's Lotus


I don't know if most of the forum member appreciate the work of Carlos Santana or not; actually I cannot remember that he was ever mentioned here.
I don't know much of him. I have the Best-Of (like most persons do), a copy of Supernatural (it was a present, and it's ok, but not as good as the media wanted to tell us) and I saw a concert of him some years ago on TV, a pretty amazing show.
This week I bought LOTUS, a 2CD live album recorded in 1973 in Kyoto. It's quite strange, but I love it. It's very psychedelic, the whole gig seems to be one song. It's not very melodic; that means it's not really easy listening. It needs some turns to grow on you, but it does. Although Carlos Santana himself is not the shining star of the album, he sometimes seems to be a bit far out. But the rhythm section and the keyboarder (Tom Costner) are great, very dynamnic...
I think it's a live album worth owning, but are there any bad live albums recorded (or made emoticon ) in Japan, which are bad?
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"Lotus" is a hot album! Around that time, Santana had done some albums with JOhn MCLaughlin, and that sound carried over; "Lotus" is very fusiony. Some of the names on there are big fusion guys; a few of them played with Tommy Bolin. There's your Purple connection! Jim S
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This is an album that kicks major butt!
I would imagine even more if you like this sort of thing,but for those who don't normally get into this,it's still awesome.
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I got to meet Tom Coster on Sept. 24, 2001. Though under the most peculiar of circumstances.

Guitar Center was sponsoring a "Meet the Musicians" clinic at Travis Air Force Base in Fairfield, California of all the places.

There was Coster, and a guitarist whos name has since escaped me.

The day started with all of us (30 or 40 of us) ushered into this auditorium, where the Air Force "rock band" performed a few songs and the keyboard player was showcasing the new (at the time) Korg CX-3 (Hammond wannabe). It seemed kind of strange the way the Air Force was running this whole thing.

Around noon, they scurried us off to lunch, and then when we came back, they split us up into two groups. Guitar players went to watch the guitarist give a theory and "circle of fifths" clinic in the auditorium, and keyboard players went to a smaller room on the side to listen to Coster muse about the praises of the Korg, his days with Santana, and his days with the Air Force, stationed up in Alaska...and how if it weren't for the U.S. Air Force, he'd never have gotten into the music industry.

Then the oddest part of the whole day:

When the talent was done impressing us with their presence....out came the Air Force recruiters ready to have us sign our lives away with the promise of being able to play "rock music in the military"!

IT WAS AT THIS POINT THAT I BEGAN TO SMELL A RAT.

Remember the date I said this took place?
September 24th, 2001....just 13-days after "Nine-Eleven".

I think they'd have pulled that Korg CX-3 out of my hands, replaced it with an AK-47, and shipped me off to Afghanistan so fast, I wouldn't have known what hit me.

Just so you know, things like this are done to trap unsuspecting people.

Maybe Coster is a great musican, but I didn't like the ulterior motives underwhich he presented himself that day. emoticon

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It's strange that a musician who played with Santana (a Woodstock legend!) recruits for the US Air Force. Some people go strange ways in their lives...

Nevertheless I love his playing on Lotus!
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I like this album, but I think that the earlier line up (with Greg Rolie playing keyboards) was funnier.

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quote:

ivo wrote:
I like this album, but I think that the earlier line up (with Greg Rolie playing keyboards) was funnier.


Funnier? Are you sure you didn't mean "more fun"?

Because there's nothing funny about Greg Rollie's organ playing. He IMO is one of the great soloists...not as "virtuoso-statused" as Jon Lord, but he had great Hammond tone in the late 60's, and unlike Deep Purple, old Santana with that screaming organ, still gets lots of airplay on FM radio. At least out here in San Francisco.

"Soul Sacrifice" continues to be just one of the songs on which I base the quality and intensity of a good Hammond solo.

I never paid much attention to Coster's organ playing, or anything Santana did after 1970, but I seem to recall that Coster was more of an etheral guy...going more for the string pads, synths, pianos, and incorporating those sounds with a "touch" of Hammond.

Whereas Rollie was more guts and pure Hammond grit!! MY KIND OF KEYBOARD PLAYER.

Though I wish I could sound more like Jon Lord, I think my friends have commented that my style actually sounds more like Rollie. And I do take that as a complement.
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Ivo, on a side note, I'm curious...

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Rollie is fabulous,and there isn't one Journey song I like without him. emoticon

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quote:

B3Burner wrote:

quote:

ivo wrote:
I like this album, but I think that the earlier line up (with Greg Rolie playing keyboards) was funnier.


Funnier? Are you sure you didn't mean "more fun"?

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Yes, that's what I meant. emoticon
Rolie was the star in early Santana. He really shines on the official release "Live at The Fillmore 1968".

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Ivo, on a side note, I'm curious...

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YV stands for Venezuela. emoticon

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Yes, that's what I meant. emoticon
Rolie was the star in early Santana. He really shines on the official release "Live at The Fillmore 1968".


Good, glad we cleared that up. emoticon



YV stands for Venezuela. emoticon



Wow! Would have never guessed that. I think you're one of the few forum members who is from South America (at least that I'm aware of).

  

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