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If DP could keep the quality from the 70s all the years from 72 (69) to now, they would have the same status as say Zep and The Who, and probably be "automatic sellers". I really think so. The thing is, those who can "piss on a cd and still sell" very, very seldom piss on their albums...:-) But when they do - on the 26th album - yes, people get fooled..



This is a fact?
Too hard to actually prove...don't you think?

Nice theory though,but hard to support.



No fact, of course. Just Clearly Quite Possible.

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Interesting string....some Rock bands do sell...and some of them are good....Audio Slave is a good band. But someoe in the media has to agree...or they would wallow in obscurity. It's probably because they have members of Rage Against the Machine and the left wing media establishment loved them.....

If Zep were to put out a reunion lp it would be huge. Because Zep is promoted, pushed and jammed down our throats (at least in the US) by classic rock radio.

I like Zep but I rarely listen to my ZEP CDs because I can just tunr on the local rock stadium and here 3-5 songs a day.

Most people are sheep...they flock to where the media tells them to go....that's just the way it is....which is the beauty of the Internet were we can get together and argue about the merits of Albums that 99.9% of the public is unaware of......unless someone in the media takes a hankering to ROTD and throws them a bone.
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ROTD is too far outside the mainstream. Audioslave is a great band, but their music is similiar (if way better in quality) to what's being played today, not that i would know since I really don't listen to the radio - just putting my two pence in). ROTD is blues-based hard rock that has been progressively funktified. Interesting. They will never make another song like Fireball or Bloodsucker. Everthing popular today has more "edge" to it, MKII DP had that. Like whiskey, you know you had some, good or bad. DP is brewing some sweet cervesas lately. An aquired taste. Goes down smooth. Be careful or you may have a few listens and miss the subtlety. Better yet, have two or three drinks while you turn it up and have a listen. Oh so good! [End ramble]

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Part of my "angst" as a teenager is that I tended to resent the "automatic" sellers even though I would listen to their music - I loved Who's Next, but refused to recognize Tommy as anything barely above average. I would always be puling out my Nazareth, Deep Purple and Cactus albums to show people what "real" rock was about.

Bands like Led Zep and Black Sabbath have an image that is greater than reality. Deep Purple for the masses never had that - they had and have a very strong cult following as we witness here today. Their fame was fleeting, but somehow the music of Deep Purple beyond Smoke and Highway Star never got into the blood of the average fan to create this ongoing "legend" status. They faded dramatically after Burn into Stormbringer and ,likewise, had the hugh bump with the reunion and Perfect Strangers that faded with the arrival of HOBL. They just don't have the numbers of "casual" rock fans that the other bands have to sustain high popularity. By the time they got to Steve Morse there was barely a pulse in America - they have done well considering.

They are rarely respected by the media and it drives every one of us nuts when they mention other bands greatness and Deep Purple are forgotten. Maybe it's image, maybe it's the name, or maybe they're not as good......nah! This is partly why I'm sensitive or oversensitive to criticism of Deep Purple today - if we can't see the good & trash them then they don't a chance in hell of being respected out there. Still got that bunker mentality leftover from my teenage years when it come to DP.

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ROTD is too far outside the mainstream.



Is it?

I don't think so. It's got several generic rock tunes like WM and GLT.
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They are rarely respected by the media and it drives every one of us nuts when they mention other bands greatness and Deep Purple are forgotten. Maybe it's image, maybe it's the name, or maybe they're not as good......nah! This is partly why I'm sensitive or oversensitive to criticism of Deep Purple today - if we can't see the good & trash them then they don't a chance in hell of being respected out there.



The things that are respected by the media usually aren't too good anyway, so I just write it off as Deep Purple are simply too intense for your average person who uses "music" as a background or as a wall paper in their lives.

I've said this before, but LZ II could play in the background with a bunch of grandmas in attendence and it would probably sneak by everyone (car commercials sound like this stuff), but if IN ROCK came on, everyone would be shakin' up from that and probably want it turned off or down.

I see Deep Purple more like Beethovenian (great, but intense music) and most of their peers or rivals are Mozartian (safe music, good and bad). Just because you can turn your amp to 11, doesn’t make you intense.

Another thing is keyboard related bands are not as popular as the guitar bands. Also the "blues based" bands seem to get more respect. That's because the "musically" simple people can usually handle what the blues artists dish out. Deep Purple sometimes venture to far into classical and jazz styles of rock.


Oh yeah back to the thread, CQA is the hit single in these parts. Everyone who I’ve given this album to really loves that song, as well as enjoying the whole album. When someone starts rattling off titles and bits of musical moments, you can clearly tell they are enjoying it. They keep asking when they're coming to town.
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ROTD is too far outside the mainstream.



Is it?

I don't think so. It's got several generic rock tunes like WM and GLT.



Yes it is outside of TODAY'S mainstream.

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LZ II could play in the background with a bunch of grandmas in attendence and it would probably sneak by everyone (car commercials sound like this stuff), but if IN ROCK came on, everyone would be shakin' up from that and probably want it turned off or down.

I see Deep Purple more like Beethovenian (great, but intense music) and most of their peers or rivals are Mozartian (safe music, good and bad).



And pop-rock radio today is intense. But unfortunately in a stupid wayemoticon My point is that DP is now more Mozartian (in a good way of course!) in terms of intensity.



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If only Mozart could have lived so long.
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Another thing is keyboard related bands are not as popular as the guitar bands. Also the "blues based" bands seem to get more respect. That's because the "musically" simple people can usually handle what the blues artists dish out. Deep Purple sometimes venture to far into classical and jazz styles of rock.


Oh yeah back to the thread, CQA is the hit single in these parts. Everyone who I’ve given this album to really loves that song, as well as enjoying the whole album. When someone starts rattling off titles and bits of musical moments, you can clearly tell they are enjoying it. They keep asking when they're coming to town.



Ormandy - I think you hit on something here - the keyboard point. The thing that attracted me to DP is probably the instrument that is least attractive to the mainstream. I have experienced a fairly lukewarm reaction to JLs organ!! Also the classical and jazzy bits are a good point. A good example is the song Burn - I think the average person loses their concentration to these neoclassical bits or at the very least doesn't appreciate the sound. Good points.

Oh... CQA is absolutely great!



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Much like an earlier thread...I rebeled against the two guitar hard rock sound that dominated hard rock in the 80s. (High School days for me)

The keyboard aspect of the band allowed for a lot more variety. But a lot of people don't get it. I mean I like AC/DC and Judas Priest but after 15 minutes you've pretty much heard all your're going to hear.

But all it would take is someone in the mainstream music press to express a love for DP and this would all change...

Remember Touch of Gray by the Dead...not really a great song but a cute video and a lot of bandwagon deadheads made it a pretty big song a decase or so ago.
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