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Fireball
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Re: The Good and The Bad of ROTD
Don't forget Any Fule Kno That ( not a favorite on this board) - explodes through the speakers. Morse's crunching rhythm has this sonic sound to it and is phenomenal.
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11/12/2005, 18:34
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KillerBananas
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Re: The Good and The Bad of ROTD
The Good:
Many great ideas, and many great Purpleish riffs!
The Bad:
Steve Morse' soloes are, IMO, a little to repetitive (almost like: Heard one- heard them all). Sometimes I feel there is a lack of energy (wake up Paice- there is a lot of room for you in the songs so you can go bananas!) Two or three songs aren't, IMO, good enough to be on an Purple album. Gillan's distorted vocals sounds terrible in my ears!
The Ugly:
Bradfords production, or his lack of production you might say!
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18/12/2005, 20:46
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Gillans micstand
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Re: The Good and The Bad of ROTD
I hear no distortion on the volcals...very smooth to my ears,if a tad thin in a few numbers,but thats all,his rich tone and character remain in tact,as they are what is most important to me about a singers appeal,not suggesting you wish he could still scream with the best of him,like he used to when it was in style,thank god the decline of popularity of that style,has coincided with his age having an impact on that factor.
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18/12/2005, 21:09
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Rezi
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Bradfords production, or his lack of production you might say!
I like the production. A different, nicely dry sound, not just copying the dull sounds of the day. The drum sound could be harder though.
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19/12/2005, 6:58
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Gillans micstand
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Re: The Good and The Bad of ROTD
As we all know,there are several functions a producer has,and I think "dry" is a fine way of hearing it,but a certain something concerning the mixing process sounds of an incomplete nature,and it has a bad effect on certain sophisticated equipment used to listen to it on,I personally have played it several times in a home studio that is packed with modern devices,and it being a modern digital recording for stereo,there does happen to be an emptiness of some sort,and it has to be attributed to Bradford,must just be the way he does things,but to me personally,and to a recording friend of mine I think he either got lazy,like movie makers do when the last shootings take place when wrapping up things,which sometims ruins a great film,or he took a shortcut that we have to live with...not too much different than some problems people seemed to have had with Bananas,and it could be that that album has this very same problem but is disguised under something,for me anyway.
I think if you want to recreate that oh so familiar Purple sound,he should atleast entertain the idea of using analog equipment,I know that sounds funny coming from a sound buff that happens to back modern digital technology strides of the past ten years,but maybe it's not such a bad idea...it would be foolish for any self respecting producer these[ed] days,to not have atleast one of these laying around:
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19/12/2005, 7:19
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Re: The Good and The Bad of ROTD
A good insight, GM.
Of course it -like anything - could sound better, but how it sounds in a home studio is at the bottom of my list as I don't have one.
But digital technology has made artists and probably producers, too, more lazy, I'm sure.
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19/12/2005, 7:36
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I only took it to my buddies house to get to the bottom of this,as it won't let the wave slder adjust correctly on my system and it bugs me,and he left something out that effects the sound,having to do with the wave,I didn't experience this with the promo because I only played it in the car,as I wanted to play the final product so to speek,on my Audigy2 soundblaster.
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19/12/2005, 7:43
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Star City
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I'm not at all technical but several of the songs just sound, for lack of a better word...muddled. There's a lot going on, but it's hard to pick it up unless you are listening through headphones.
I think Purpendicular was one of the best produced and engineered LP in DP history where songs like LMS and Soon Forgotten really shined as you could hear everything clearly....
I wish ROTD sounded more like that, because the songs and playing are inspired.
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19/12/2005, 11:49
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Eirik Solum
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Re: The Good and The Bad of ROTD
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I'm not at all technical but several of the songs just sound, for lack of a better word...muddled. There's a lot going on, but it's hard to pick it up unless you are listening through headphones.
I think Purpendicular was one of the best produced and engineered LP in DP history where songs like LMS and Soon Forgotten really shined as you could hear everything clearly....
I wish ROTD sounded more like that, because the songs and playing are inspired.
Exactly. Lots of good riffs, tunes and ideas (and some not), but they drown in lack of production. As you say; Purpendicular sounds good and well produced (good job, Rog!) - as a proffesional album should be! Loosen My Strings...wow!
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19/12/2005, 13:19
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Re: The Good and The Bad of ROTD
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quote:
Star City wrote:
I'm not at all technical but several of the songs just sound, for lack of a better word...muddled. There's a lot going on, but it's hard to pick it up unless you are listening through headphones.
I think Purpendicular was one of the best produced and engineered LP in DP history where songs like LMS and Soon Forgotten really shined as you could hear everything clearly....
I wish ROTD sounded more like that, because the songs and playing are inspired.
Exactly. Lots of good riffs, tunes and ideas (and some not), but they drown in lack of production. As you say; Purpendicular sounds good and well produced (good job, Rog!) - as a proffesional album should be! Loosen My Strings...wow!
I hear very few bad riffs ideas and tunes on ROTD myself,but I do have other minor issues with it...and btw,Purpendicular was a group compostion,as it clearly states "written and produced by DEEP PURPLE." 
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19/12/2005, 13:34
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