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It's no more my opinion that TBRO is garbage by Purple standards,than anyone carrying on about ROTD in the same light.

Good sound is not a matter of opinion,period. emoticon
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This 17 yo guy in some store was blasting ROTD over the sound system and seemed to be getting into it. I asked him his opinion:

"Serious tunes dude, ace soloing - but that pro do (production) really brings it down - come on now dude just listen to that drum buzz - it sounds like a rapper dude. Too bad without the bad pro do this is top 10 substance".
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Bradford did so much rap stuff that he simply doesn't know how to produce a rock band properly emoticon
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Excuse me...Kid Rock may do some rap...but it's rock music,maybe not the best,but it's structured in rock,same with Uncle Cracker.

But this doesn't mean Bradford can keep his influence out of anything he records...is there many who can?

I can say that he needs to listen to more rock drumming,and find a way to mix them,and I'm sure it's due to a lack of having to mix much organic drumming,what with the beat tracking used in todays music of any kind...he needs help in this area,if you ask me.
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quote:

Fireball wrote:

This 17 yo guy in some store was blasting ROTD over the sound system and seemed to be getting into it. I asked him his opinion:

"Serious tunes dude, ace soloing - but that pro do (production) really brings it down - come on now dude just listen to that drum buzz - it sounds like a rapper dude. Too bad without the bad pro do this is top 10 substance".



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Agree with him. I had some friends over last night, that usually are positive to Purple. I played Clearly Quite Absurd and some of them spontaniously burst out "Is this the album?!? It sounds like a bad mp3! The acoustic guitar sounds just like sonic noise!:-)" With all respect for Bradford and his work, but it is lot of bad sound work on ROTD.
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This is all very interesting to me, a good thread. Someone else said that they hear the material first and the production/mix second, and that's the way I am. Whether that's because I'm a musician or not I couldn't say....I guess my ears just go to the content of the songs rather than the people who transmit those sounds to us.

I don't have a problem with the mix etc. Even having had it pointed out to me, I don't hear much to whine about. Either I've got bad ears or i'm desensitised on the subject.

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No-one came from miles around and said.... 'Who's he?'
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Scar Tissue wrote:

This is all very interesting to me, a good thread. Someone else said that they hear the material first and the production/mix second, and that's the way I am. Whether that's because I'm a musician or not I couldn't say....I guess my ears just go to the content of the songs rather than the people who transmit those sounds to us.

I don't have a problem with the mix etc. Even having had it pointed out to me, I don't hear much to whine about. Either I've got bad ears or i'm desensitised on the subject.



Well, to me the musical material is also the first and most important thing. I'm also a musician and my experience is that you can change something great to become something of a throw away when recording an album. And the other way around. The production, the wibe and approach in the studio is important. So is the sound experience. The material on ROTD is ok to me, nothing more, and the material gets no help from the production (or sound). If I could choose I'd have great sound and great prodiction when listening to good material...
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Agree with him. I had some friends over last night, that usually are positive to Purple. I played Clearly Quite Absurd and some of them spontaniously burst out "Is this the album?!? It sounds like a bad mp3! The acoustic guitar sounds just like sonic noise!:-)" With all respect for Bradford and his work, but it is lot of bad sound work on ROTD.



My children have the same opinion as they listen to mp3 mostly. It's sad that the album sounds so poor, it was the same with Bananas.

You know what, I think they could do it on purpose. In 10 years time we'll get an anniversary/remastered/remixed/upgraded and enhanced version of each album so that they could cash in a few more pounds. Bastards! emoticon
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It's all worth it for catching Gillan's voice during:

"...something not right, didn't recognise the car..."

"women... being what they are..."

and

"... in the name of some God or another..."

That busting of the limits is perfect.
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The material is so strong on ROTD it makes up for the mix...but it is poor. Compare it to the mix on Purpendicular and tell me you can't hear a difference. If CQA was mixed like Loosen My Strings it would be even better....

Bradford is great at getting the creative juicest flowing...but the mix could be a lot better.....
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