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I didn't like Hard Lovin' Woman, either, at the time it came out. I wanted material closer to Machine Head and was deeply disappointed in House of Blue Light. But all these years later, I realize it was good for the 1980's synth-style rock that was prevalent. Purple were trying to keep with the times a bit, and not sound like dinosaurs. But any Purple album - and I mean ANY album - is better than 99% of the new stuff on American radio. It's so bad, it could make you cry. Fortunately, I listen to very little radio anymore.
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Imagine if the four Beatles had reunited and were putting out albums in the 80's or 90's. Now that would be a no win situation. No matter how good it might be. People would say it’s not like the old days.

I remember in the 90’s when the Beatles did put out those two new songs "Free As A Bird" and "Real Love" and how much flack they took for just those. They were actually pretty good I thought. In the publics eyes, you can never top your past glories, even if it is as good or better.
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Ormandy wrote:

Imagine if the four Beatles had reunited and were putting out albums in the 80's or 90's. Now that would be a no win situation. No matter how good it might be. People would say it’s not like the old days.

I remember in the 90’s when the Beatles did put out those two new songs "Free As A Bird" and "Real Love" and how much flack they took for just those. They were actually pretty good I thought. In the publics eyes, you can never top your past glories, even if it is as good or better.



Yeah, I actually think Free as a Bird is of the Beatle's best 20 or so songs. It was just released at the wrong time.

As for Hard Loving Woman, I just really dislike that song by any standard. A lot of the material off HoBL is much better.

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Yeah, I actually think Free as a Bird is of the Beatle's best 20 or so songs.



It's one of my favourite Beatles songs as well.
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The very last "original" Beatles material, too. It's a sad thought, but we're going to be saying that about a lot of our favorite artists in the next ten years or so. Maybe I should start a post on which famous rock bands from the 1960's or '70's fans think will still be making albums a decade from now. Some morbid chump would start predicting obits, though, I'm afraid. Anyway, it was 64 degrees (F) in Grand Rapids, Michigan, last week, and now we've received 9 inches of snow in the last two days. Getting down to 20F tonight, which is 12 below freezing.
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good post, JG119.
we should be glad DP are still alive and kicking, and still making new albums after all those years. in the five years interval between Abandon and Bananas I had got rather pessimistic in that respect...

Carramba's initial post made a very good point, I think. Surely the Mk IIa albums bristle with energy and there's no denying they're more exciting than ROTD, but frankly I don't want them to write/play/sing another Highway Star at the age of 60. That's why I don't like the pseudo-juvenile intro of House of Pain. Thankfully ROTD doesn't feature any mock youth anthem. It's simply a good mature album if you ask me (putting aside the lyrics of GLT, DLG and B2B??).
In the same way, I'd never complain about, say, Walking into Clarksdale not containing anything like Whole lotta love.
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I liked the intro to House of Pain. As long as the band can still hit the notes, there's nothing wrong with playing it. Purple can still hit a great deal of the notes, and the ones they can't they don't attempt. That's honest rock and roll, with only a slight concession to age. That's the same reason IG doesn't sing 'Child In Time' anymore. He could, but it would make him hoarse for a couple days. So, trying to make a record with all the screams of 'Highway Star' or 'Space Truckin'' on it would be possible in studio, but Gillan doesn't want to have to stretch his tonsils that hard every night in concert. Who can blame him? So, I think Purple is putting out honest rock in that respect.
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i think about other points and i think it is very important:
Deep Purple with few others invented the classic hard rock. you sometimes feel pepole wants it to invent more. well, after they have invented it - just let them use it !!!

why asking more and more and more to invent ?

why dont pepole just let them enjoy the inventment ? its possible to use thousand of approach to the invention - and that is what they are doing with a huge talent in each album !!

i cannt understsnd the unending demand to invent the wheel again - is it not frustrating to come up in evry new album with obtestation and criticism - why the hell the guys dont invent a new style ?

i think you just have to enjoy the fact that the world have the gift that is called Deep Purple - and im not saying you cannt come with criticism at all - but please - talk about the the work of art and not about the existence of the band ... like some are doing here.

you can talk about performance but stop sending the guys home...

and all in all: the band is making great music - they are one of the only few thats still do very very good rock - why cannt we all say the truth ?? (and respect it ?)

does anyone feel like me: that there is too much disrespect aroud ?

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I largely agree with you Snake. I'm all for constructive criticism - after all, nobody's perfect - but don't really agree with the stuff about them desecrating the legend, or about their relative musical merits and/or right to be in the band at all.

Politicians, people in power, yes have a go at them by all means. Purple are not answerable to us or to the 'legend'. They, like us (as far as I know anyway) have one life, and if they wish to carry on playing and recording and they are happy with it.....well, all I can say is that they are in an enviable position, and if I had their ability and opportunity, I'd do exactly the same. I agree with those that wish that they were more 'dangerous' live, but really have very little to complain about.

I'm sorry to now sound immodest - I'm not very English in that respect - but I did train as a professional musician, and indeed qualified as one, and I am a good musician and performer. I only say this to demonstrate the old adage that the more you know, the more you realise that you don't know, so when people go on at ANY musician, be it Morse, Gillan, Airey, Paice, Blackmore....hell, even JLT for goodness sakes, about their ability or whatever it is, it just makes me laugh - I'd love to have their abilities. I'm pretty sure that none of us has anything like their talent, and I also know what it's like have your ability picked at by critics who have little to offer themselves performance/musical creativity-wise.

If there is a heaven, I think that those that created, got up there and performed and brought joy to countless people will be in ahead of those that picked holes in what they did.

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I largely agree with you Snake. I'm all for constructive criticism - after all, nobody's perfect - but don't really agree with the stuff about them desecrating the legend, or about their relative musical merits and/or right to be in the band at all.

Politicians, people in power, yes have a go at them by all means. Purple are not answerable to us or to the 'legend'. They, like us (as far as I know anyway) have one life, and if they wish to carry on playing and recording and they are happy with it.....well, all I can say is that they are in an enviable position, and if I had their ability and opportunity, I'd do exactly the same. I agree with those that wish that they were more 'dangerous' live, but really have very little to complain about.

I'm sorry to now sound immodest - I'm not very English in that respect - but I did train as a professional musician, and indeed qualified as one, and I am a good musician and performer. I only say this to demonstrate the old adage that the more you know, the more you realise that you don't know, so when people go on at ANY musician, be it Morse, Gillan, Airey, Paice, Blackmore....hell, even JLT for goodness sakes, about their ability or whatever it is, it just makes me laugh - I'd love to have their abilities. I'm pretty sure that none of us has anything like their talent, and I also know what it's like have your ability picked at by critics who have little to offer themselves performance/musical creativity-wise.

If there is a heaven, I think that those that created, got up there and performed and brought joy to countless people will be in ahead of those that picked holes in what they did.



Hi Scar,

It's great that you like the current lineup and album and have respect for the current DP. So do I. However, my only advice is to not get too worked up when there is criticism of the band.

Afterall, the critics are DP fans afterall and let's face it: MK2a is a tough act to follow. Still many of the critics have interesting things to say sometimes.

Yes, sometimes it goes too far IMO. I think the disparaging remarks about the individuals in the band crosses the line occasionally. Still, all in all it doesn't happen that much.

I'll just say: try to enjoy the forum for what it is. I'm sorry to see Wrong Man and a few other left because they got into it too seriously with people who simply aren't too fond of the current lineup/album. Don't follow suit. Afterall, us current album fans need more troops. Haven't you heard? There's a "waldo" anti-Morse terrorist on the loose out there.

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