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wrong man
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 rate the songs from ROTD
it is still early, it is a bit silly
but it is all for fun
let's rate the songs from ROTD
Here is my try:
1)ROTD
2)Before Time Began
3)Clearly Quite Absurd
4)Junkyard Blues
5)Back to Back
6)MTV
7)Don't Let Go
8) Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye
9) Money Talks
10) Wrong Man
11) Girls Like That
Oh damn! that was tough. There is no weak song on this album and almost every track is a gem.
A real masterpiece, this album
cheers
wrong man
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1/10/2005, 18:53
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SixtyNine
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Re: rate the songs from ROTD
It goes like that:
Money talks
Wrong man
MTV
ROTD
Girls like that
Back to back
Kiss tomorrow goodbye
Clearly quite absurd
Don't Let Go
Junkyard blues
Before time began
Bottoms Up!
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1/10/2005, 19:58
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MachineHead 1
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Re: rate the songs from ROTD
Here goes...
1. Wrong Man
2. Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye
3. Money Talks (cracking intro, great organ sound!!)
4. Junkyard Blues
5. equal 5th the rest
Note (haven't heard MTV)
Beginning to like the album more than any other from 1984 onwards. Well crafted.
The only reservation is the tendancy for Morse to use the very same run that he's used far too many times on too many tacks and albums. I could even tell at first listening - "I hope he doesn't use that same solo run again" - only for him to then do it.
I tried to tell myself that he isn't one dimensional when it comes to solos.
Morse has made huge contributions but he needs a re-think on his solos.
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From the moment I heard the opening strains of Highway Star... that was it!!!
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1/10/2005, 19:59
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wrong man
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Re: rate the songs from ROTD
as far as steve's soloing is concerned: it is not that bad really. There were a few surprises on bananas and on ROTD as well
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1/10/2005, 20:18
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MachineHead 1
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Re: rate the songs from ROTD
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wrong man wrote:
as far as steve's soloing is concerned: it is not that bad really. There were a few surprises on bananas and on ROTD as well
Its not the surprises - its the predictable "he isn't goinng to do that same run again" - and he then does!!!
And if you look at my postings you will see that I'm a defender of the smiley one. I'm very loyal to and like the current line-up but my loyalty isn't blind - I'm not blinkered with tunnel vision, and I'm not totally deaf.
At very first listen of ROTD, all too often I could predict the run he was going to do and he then did it. He did the same thing on - for example - in middle of "Picure Of Innocence" on Bananas (which I also like) and again it was a run he had used before that - on Abandon. Its so 'versatile' that it is used all over the place - no matter what the song!
Look at the reply from Erik Solum to my same point on the 'ROTD letdown' thread. As Erik said or implied - good player but Morse's problem seems to be a lack of improvisational ability in his soloing.
In answer to your point - they should all be surprises!!! Its ridiculous - its like Blackmore having the rather unique (apart from it being a Bach progression) solo from Highway Star cropping up again and again on various other 'new' DP tracks which came after Machine Head. It soon loses the unique feel and becomes totally boring and predictable - unfortunately.
On the positive side - overall I really like the album. Well crafted.
But the smiley one neeeds a totall re-think on 'that' run and his solos in general. He neds to stop automatically lurching into 'that' same run and improvise according to what the song is doing - in true DP tradition.
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From the moment I heard the opening strains of Highway Star... that was it!!!
Machine Head blew me away
In Rock blew my brains out
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Ian Domic
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Re: rate the songs from ROTD
Rapture of the Deep
Money Talks
Wrong Man
Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye
Don't let Go
Back to Back
MTV
Clearly Quite Absurd
Before Time Began
Junkyard Blues
Girls Like That
Anyway, I really like all the songs!!
About Morse, oh this is a long topic tu discuss... He repeats too much that scale, I dunno what to think... sometimes he really surprises me, then he uses that god damn trick. Is a fact that is his trade mark, no one else do that stuff as he does (Petrucci just copy) and he created that picking. But please, smilie, save some!! We don't need that in Purple, use and abuse it con your SMB, Living LouD, etc.
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1/10/2005, 22:14
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wrong man
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Re: rate the songs from ROTD
to Machine Head 1
I see your point and you might be right, but I feel you are exaggerating a bit. even Blackmore had tendencies(still has!!) to repeat himself.
You mentioned Highway Star solo (by the way, wasn't it Lord's idea in the first place to insert some Bach-like solos?) which is unique. But Steve has also some unique solos (see Purpendicular) which he does not repeat
He does repeat some tricks which are characteristic of his style. So did Blackmore.
He might have done a better job but I don't feel his playing is a let down. No. Actually, his cooperation with Don is superb, better than cooperation of Blackmore and Lord - especially towards the end of the Blackmore era.
To conclude, even if (as you say) Steve repeats himself I definitely prefer ROTD, Bananas or Purpendiculasr to House of Blue Light, slaves and Masters the Battle Rages On. Sometimes I even prefer ROTD to Perfect Strangers.
And the credit shoudl also go to Steve
And final remarks - I can also be critical od DP. But if someone were to be cticised for ROTD, IT IS NOT STEVE. The instrumental parts are great. I think if the band had Blackmore the Album would not be so good because he wouldn't cooperate with the rest of the band - he would force his own ideas and play what HE wants to play
Anyway, if someone were to be crticised it would be Ian Gillan as his voice is not as strong as before. Still he did a great job.
To conclude, ROTD, even with his flaws, is the best purple album for donkey's years. It is as good as Perfect Strangers. IMHO
cheers
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1/10/2005, 22:38
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MachineHead 1
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Re: rate the songs from ROTD
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wrong man wrote:
to Machine Head 1
I see your point and you might be right, but I feel you are exaggerating a bit. even Blackmore had tendencies(still has!!) to repeat himself.
You mentioned Highway Star solo (by the way, wasn't it Lord's idea in the first place to insert some Bach-like solos?) which is unique. But Steve has also some unique solos (see Purpendicular) which he does not repeat
He does repeat some tricks which are characteristic of his style. So did Blackmore.
He might have done a better job but I don't feel his playing is a let down. No. Actually, his cooperation with Don is superb, better than cooperation of Blackmore and Lord - especially towards the end of the Blackmore era.
To conclude, even if (as you say) Steve repeats himself I definitely prefer ROTD, Bananas or Purpendiculasr to House of Blue Light, slaves and Masters the Battle Rages On. Sometimes I even prefer ROTD to Perfect Strangers.
And the credit shoudl also go to Steve
And final remarks - I can also be critical od DP. But if someone were to be cticised for ROTD, IT IS NOT STEVE. The instrumental parts are great. I think if the band had Blackmore the Album would not be so good because he wouldn't cooperate with the rest of the band - he would force his own ideas and play what HE wants to play
Anyway, if someone were to be crticised it would be Ian Gillan as his voice is not as strong as before. Still he did a great job.
To conclude, ROTD, even with his flaws, is the best purple album for donkey's years. It is as good as Perfect Strangers. IMHO
cheers
wrong man
If you look at Ian Domic's reply you will see that he agrees with me on this one - nnot that I expect everyone to agree with me.
You seem to miss my point - your points to me are the same as the ones I made - that the album is good - and I actually think that its maybe the best DP album from 1984 onwards - well crafted.
If you read my other postings on this forum you will know that I am very much pro the current line-up - and the co-operation aspect is one of the resons why I'm so pro the Morse line-up. I have also criticised the re-union albums with Blackmore - for the reasons you state or touch upon. As I've reasoned before - to me it was going stale.
You misunderstamd my point my friend - all I noted was 1 solitary reservation. Its a bit like having a virtually perfect girlfriend or wife - but you wish she'd stop doing a particular thing.
As to the Blackmore and any other guitarist who repeats a style - there is a WORLD of difference between a style - and doing the very same tune!!! That scale/run he does is far too overfamiliar and over used in too many songs as 'the solo'.
Some will actually be amazed (e.g. Ritchies Strat?!! - hi there!) that I am offering any criticism of the smiley one.
Overall 'Rapture Of The Deep' is superb and I agree that the co-operation thing is important - to me a well crafted album that has a very high "play again" value.
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From the moment I heard the opening strains of Highway Star... that was it!!!
Machine Head blew me away
In Rock blew my brains out
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1/10/2005, 22:54
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wrong man
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Re: rate the songs from ROTD
Ok, I see your point now and basically agree as well
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1/10/2005, 23:04
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MachineHead 1
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Hi wrong man,
You'll maybe have to change your name to Right Man!! 
Cheers,
MH1
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