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Wow - from an earlier post - someone is putting down Paice's drumming on Bananas? It's clear to me that this person is not a drummer. One does not have to sound like Keith Moon all the way through a song to sound great - that can often destroy it. I like his playing on ROTD better, but he did some great stuff on Bananas like Doing It Tonight and Silver Tongue. At his 2003 clinic in Ontario Canada (see my review on THS, if you're interested) it was clear that he is still one of the best rock drummers on the planet.
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Ah, good ol' subtlety! If you want blatant overdrumming, enjoy the Dave Matthews Band, where the drummer shoves fancy fills into plenty of places where they simply do not belong.

Then savor some Blues Traveler, where there is plenty of the world's fastest harmonica playing, offering loads of notes - with no taste whatsoever.

If these leave you strangely unsatisified, listen carefully to how Ian Paice employs taste, tone, and touch. It's musical. If that does not do it for you, go back to savoring some Yngwie or Vinnie Vincent; simply imagine that the guitar's notes are drumbeats, and you will have your dearest drum fantasies come to life.

The irony is that the !@#$-About-New-Purple crew love to whinge about Morse using tumeni notes but then complain about Paice not using enough whacks.
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Reminds me of Blackmore saying one minute,"I don't have to listen to them now...I know they're good" and on the very next page,proceeds to knock Gillan,saying he isn't singing for sh1t...must be listening to something. emoticon
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Well, they are damn good. The only thing that used to bug me about ROTD is that the vocal melody of the verses in the title track reminded me of the vocal melody of the verses in The Beatles' "Got To Get You Into My Life". I got over that after a couple of days. I still miss Lord, but I am very accepting of Airey.
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What about the vocal melody in "Don't Let Go" sounds lifted from Berlins "No More Words" and even more disturbing,Bradfords obvious influence of Isaak Hayes,first he steals the idea for "Walk On" from a song of Isaaks,and now we have a title lifted from one of his songs as well "Don't Let Go" 1980 number one hit.
That connection is no coincidence,next up,Hayes guesting. emoticon
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quote:

moe wrote:

Wow - from an earlier post - someone is putting down Paice's drumming on Bananas? It's clear to me that this person is not a drummer. One does not have to sound like Keith Moon all the way through a song to sound great - that can often destroy it. I like his playing on ROTD better, but he did some great stuff on Bananas like Doing It Tonight and Silver Tongue. At his 2003 clinic in Ontario Canada (see my review on THS, if you're interested) it was clear that he is still one of the best rock drummers on the planet.



Overplaying is what people are accustomed to and if that is not done, they feel the drumming must be bad.
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That's pretty sad. Take a listen to the studio version of Dire Straits' "Sultans Of Swing" for example, and then listen to the live version they put out a couple of years later. In my opinion, the live version of the song is destroyed by the overplaying. In Purple, Paice is playing great stuff to what fits the music - just like he did on albums like Machine Head. I think he found more room to breathe on ROTD compared with Bananas and let himself loose a little more, but without overdoing it.
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I think the drums are a little further down in the mix and the cymbols sound a bit mushy. At first I thought it was Ian but now I attribute it to the mixing. Paice plays some cool bits on ROTD. Maybe not as over the top as he was on something like Burn but he's not 20 anymore.

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Agreed
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I think there is more effort and thought here from Bradford that he's given credit for. I don't think he cart blanched it to a certain mix and production for all songs. For instance - the piano instrumental in Junkyard Blues. People complain about the low mix of the piano ("can I have everything louder than everything else")You have some great sound from Paice and Glover - nothing fancy - simplicity and jazzy at its best. You feel like you're listening to them in a small bar. Quite an amazing effect really. I think Bradford has been quite diversified in his approach - not one size fits all.

PS I have no idea where that winkie character came from - I can't get rid of it.

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