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There´s The Rub – Wishbone Ash (1974)

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Personnel:

Andy Powell (Guitars, Mandolin, Vocals)
Laurie Wisefield (Guitars, Banjo, Steel Guitar, Vocals)
Martin Turner (Lead Vocals, Bass Guitar)
Steve Upton (Drums, Percussion)


Notes:

After a rather weak fourth album compared to it´s predecessors and a live album Wishbone Ash made some changes and yet suceeded in combining a „back to the roots“ with „change of direction“ style. They put off the production duties from themselves and left them to Bill Szymczyk. Also this was their first album to be recorded and produced in the USA. It marked the first of many personal changes in the band with Ted Turner having just left and beeing replaced by guitarist Laurie Wisefield. The front cover shows the loins of someone who´s holding a cricket ball in front of them.

1.Silver Shoes

I just love it when a Wishbone Ash album begins with a song that has such a gentle intro. I love it when Mart Turner starts singing „Silver Lady...“. You can say what you want, he wasn´t only an awesome bassist, but his vocal contributions to the band were just top! That´s the same reason what made me listen closer to the intro of Time Was on Argus. Just like Time Was this one discovers a slight change of tempo and dynamic. Still the mood stays the same. Great main riff, which doesn´t get enough outing for me, though. The solo comes a bit surprising and doesn´t really seem to fit into the overall structure of the song, still it´s an awesome listening. Great slides here and there.

2. Don´t Come Back

This a great groove to it. Indeed a great choice for a second track albeit not quite continuing the mightiness of the first track. It´s more the R´n´B Ash that comes out here, and this track wouldn´t have sounded out of place on their debut or Wishbone Four either(although on the latter it could have added some momentum that the albukm rather lacked). The ending is great when you thought it lost itself and then it comes back to full power with Steve Upton beeing on top once again.

3. Persephone

Gorgeous! Wishbone Ash ballads are always brilliant and they did a great job on Persephone to follow up tracks like Erorrs Of My Ways, Valediction, Sometime World, Ballad Of The Beacon. The mood of the lyrics and the melody fit better together than in most songs. It´s just perfect. Then comes the break with the short interlude of spanish guitar that leads into the first solo. It´s magic when the electric solo joins in breaks into the riff again and goes on even stronger before we come back to the song. The feel of the vocals is so great. Who said the vocals weren´t good in WA? No screaming power, okay. But does that always have to be the case? Martin Turner puts so much feeling into the vocals it makes it an outstanding goosebumps track. Then comes the final closing guitar solo, which is so intense that it will follow you, long after heard it. Definitly my favourite on the album, I´ve heard it several times in a row and it gets better each time you hear it.

4. Hometown

Nice track. That´s all. Probably my least favourite on the album. The songwriting and the sound seem to be too much influenced from the time when they wrote for their previous album. It´s not bad, just more of a filler and I get get as much out of it as with the rest of the album. They playing is great as always and the unique Wishbone Ash sound makes more or less up for the lack of great songwriting but that´s not enough to make this an outstanding track. It´s nice and the bridge is interesting, just easy listening and not really something which would me made stand up and listen probably. This is also the one were you hear the american production out(you shouldn´t connect that with my last comment, though). It´s a filler to me but anything but the least good filler of heard!

5. Lady Jay

Now, this is brilliant again! Sounds very seventies and has something of the appeal that makes all track on Argus outstanding. The parellel running of accoustic and electric guitar works very good. Then there are these breaks and stops that always build up and fall again. When the riff comes with both electric guitars you have also something very good to hum. The banjo adds an amercian feeling to it. Ohhh yes and the solo! I just love it. This one as so much, you can hum it perfectly still it walks to different sections and tempo changes that just make you sit and listen the same moment you´d love to stand up, dance and snip your fingers to it while humming the riff. Definitly another highlight!
 
6. F*U*B*B*

Gawd, this track is fucked up beyond belive...no, wait that´s not my opinion about it. It´s what the abbreviation stands for. The thundering bass builds together with the drums a fundament for some light twin guitar jamming in the beginning. It gradually turns into something very powerful as the drum breaks become more intense. What begins as a light, laidback jam track finds it concept soon with aprupt tempo changes. I still love the concept of a slow beginning and fast ending which this track acheives perfectly ones again. It´s just a fantastic moment when the rythm section transforms into that kind of in-the-face power rock. The faster second part of the track has all the band members on top. It´s not really as Phoenix without vocals but definitly one the better existing instrumentals and in my opinion the best Wishbone Ash instrumental I´ve heard until now. Better than anything on Pilgrimage.
That´s what I love about Wishbone Ash, you can listen to every instrument seperatly and hear sheer perfection and dedication from everyone involved. Then comes the closing a short pause and the beating end...silence...and a sound I can´t really classify. Sounds funny though.

Conclusion:

The song material and writing both have improved a lot since the last album. It sounds much more ambitoned what could be due to the personal changes within the band. Bill Szymczyk did a great job producing the album. It doesn´t sound as forced as the only band produced album Wishbone Four. It even gets quite close to what Derek Lawrence did on the first three albums. Silver Shoes, Persepone and Lady Jay are definitive highlights of their fifth studio effort, while I must stay that Hometown hasn´t really the high quality as the rest of the tracks. The most positive surprise is that the departure of Martin Turner doesn´t damage the sound or the quality. At the time they recorded Wishbone Four and obviously after it they probably needed some changes to carry on. They really suceed in going back to their roots, as There´s The Rub has in sound and style many of their self titled debut. Wisefield is a great duet partner for a Powell and for sure a very good replacement for Ted Turner. Another positive surprise is that still most of the vocal duties are to Martin Turner who does a great job singing and playing bass once again. Now elements like Steel Guitar and Banjo make some contrast on the one side and on the other side they emphasize the american sound of the record that still has all of the typicaly unique WA sound you could ask for. All elements are there, great ballads, gently played sections that become dynamic and exciting when they´re interupted by sudden tempo changes. The brilliant twin guitars and the combination of very taltened and gifted musicans. All of them four are top in all their playing and together they´ve left another highlight in their back catalogue.


- Milan

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Nice review, they're always interesting to read.
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You should submit that one to Amazon or something.
If I din't know you a little better I'd swear you almost sound like you were there
at the time of release.
Very professional

To this day,this is the only WA album I have
where do I go from here?
Any suggestions?

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quote:

Gillans micstand wrote:
To this day,this is the only WA album I have
where do I go from here?
Any suggestions?



Argus first, no self-respecting rock fan should be without a copy. Get the "remastered and revisted" edition, the sound is fantastic and it includes the Live In Memphis EP.

If you like that then at least get the remaining 3 albums of the original lineup and you'll have got all the essentials. The order I'd recommend them in is...

1: Their self-titled debut
2: Pilgrimage
3: Wishbone Four

Apparently the latest one, Bona Fide, is very good too.
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I have to add that back in the day I was familiar with them,My dad had most of their stuff,I just never held on to them the way I did Purple and some others.
So I will take the advice of Ritchies Hair
and let you guy's know what I think of them
and which songs bring back memories and stuff like that.emoticon
I'll even get started asap,
now I'm off to see Hot Tuna at the aladdin Theater in Portland. emoticon
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Nice review! I'd agree with most of it, though I really like Hometown!

Persephone and Lady Jay are definitely the album highlights. Two gorgeous tracks that rank alongside the best stuff the band have ever recorded. I don't think they bettered this album since.

Indeed, the follow up album was considered so bad by the band that they have tried to distance themselves from it.
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Does the set still offer them space to play one or two songs from The Rub?

I didn´t say I don´t like Hometown, just that it doesn´t stand quite as high as the rest of the tracks.

I´ll be getting all the Mark 2 WA albums this year, so Locked In would be next then. Let´s see what I think of that.
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Unfortunately, they didn't play anything from There's The Rub when I saw them. There were several cries (including my own) for Persephone, but the band launched into Ballad of the Beacon instead. That kept me just as satisfied!

Later reports say that FUBB has crept into the setlist for an extensive jam workout. But I don't think this is done at every gig!

Locked In is a decent album. Nothing brilliant or memorable, but worth having to fill the gap in your collection. A couple of great tracks in there, notably Rest in Peace and, my favourite, Moonshine.

After the first 5 albums, my next favourite is probably New England which was certainly more of a return to the classic Ash sound.
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Mhhh, unfortunatly I most likly won´t be able to see them in Nürnberg on the 27th!emoticon

What WA records are you still missing, Rahul?
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And I thought the front cover of ))) was bad...

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