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Dream Theater have nothing to do with Metallica apart from a couple of heavy riffs here and there on the harder tracks! You might as well compare them to Sting because they've done tracks like Another Day and Hollow Years that sound like him! emoticon All in all, they are a very eclectic band mixing very diverse and different influences in a progressive cauldron of sound and very good so as well. Kind of remind me of Purple in that respect, a very modern Purple that is... Give them a shot you won't be disappointed.
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Rick & Christos:

Well, maybe they are worth a listen afterall. I just loath Metallica. No musicality when a band can accept a "singer" like that one.

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quote:

MrSnip wrote:
Well, maybe they are worth a listen afterall. I just loath Metallica. No musicality when a band can accept a "singer" like that one.



Ah, so it's only Hetfield's voice.
Fear not my friend, James LaBrie is one of the best singers around at the moment. He even has some classical training.

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Ok, I finally got this album, and have given it about 3 or 4 listens at this point. And I like it. I didn't know what to expect, given the divided opinions I have read about it. It has split the DT board community into two very distinct groups, being the "heavy" group that likes the metal side of the band, and the prog side, which seems to only like the older stuff. The fact is, this album doesn't surprise me, you could see this coming. If you follows DT's progression, you have the earlier, more prog influenced albums, Images & Words, Awake and the Change of Seasons EP. But with Falling into Infinity there a definite "tone" change in the music. It started heading more to the metal sound in the riffs and guitar tone. Scenes From a Memory continued that, and while being a great prog concept album, you could see the influences changing with Dance of Eternity, Home and Fatal Tragedy. Six Degrees had even harder core metal sound in The Glass Prison, The Great Debate, The Test To Stump Them All and The War Inside My Head. This album continues the trend, the most metal album they have done so far.

But through it all, they sound like, well, Dream Theater. Some critics of this album have said they are trying to follow the nu-metal trends, and sound like Linkin Park or Limp Biscuit. If thats so, I don't know what album they have been listening to. Ok, there is maybe 30 seconds of James Labrie "rapping", out of almost 70 minutes of music. Oh yah, gone WAY over the egde there, right? (That's sarcasim, if you can't tell.)

Is it a perfect album? No, not to me. I still like the earlier albums better, I liked it when the band was more balanced between prog and metal, but they still play great music. Petrucci needs to slow down, he's started going over the edge on the metal shredding, I think he needs to pull out the entire Blackmore catalog and not record another album until he's listened to it all, and re-learn that solos can be played with feeling. The early albums had more of that, but he's tending more towards shredding as time goes on. But all told, it's a very solid enjoyable album. It's too new to me to place in the DT heirarchy of albums, but I don't understand what all the screaming is about from the DT fan base.
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I think Rick sums it up very well.
I've listened to Train Of Thought three times now and I think it's pretty damn good. I was initially disappointed as it seemed to be just a straight ahead metal album (lots of Master Of Puppets riffs) and I really didn't want that from Dream Theater. After a few listens I can definitely hear the proggishness (word?). I don't think I'll ever like it as much as Scenes From A Memory, but think it's as good as Six Degees Of Inner Turbulence or Awake.

Favorite song - In The Name Of God
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Okay, after giving the album extensive listens my imressions are the following:

I generally don´t like the disorted vocal idea, but on some tracks it´s okay.

Overall it´s a bit long with the tracks having a constant sound, if you can´t get enough of it it´s probably good, but I miss the change...and the keyboards!

Everyone is playing on top, tight and very heavy.

After several listens I really started to enjoy As I Am. Great heavy, dark track.
Vacant is also great but too short, Stream Of Conciousness(which has a very fitting title, as the song progresses exactly like that!) has to be one of the very best Dream Theater instrumental passages. In The Name Of God is the best track. From the first listen and after a couple of times more.

I still don´t like Honour Thy Father and This Dying Soul, Endless Sacrifice I´d count to the better tracks, though.

Overall very good product, but I´d like to hear more feeling and the next time.
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I haven't listened to this album for quite some time now, but when it came out, I didn't like it too much.
As a Dream Theater fan I think they shouldn't try to sound like someone else, well, it is still Dream Theater, but to me it has too many obvious influences from bands that don't have the same level! Why try to sound like them???
Dream Theater can do better...
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I love it, and play it again and again for weeks.
My first impression was also, that the keys are a bit down in the mix and/or not existing, but actually this is bot true. There are many times, when Jordan and John P. actually play exactly the same melody, but the guitar is a bit more easy to hear. But there ARE some very fine moments from Jordan!

DT are the band, of which I simply cannot tell my favourite album. Images and words; Awake; SFAM and ToT are all simply amazing and every album has it's own style!

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