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right, this is a brilliant yet !@#$ subject due to the deteriaration of the series.

The Matrix - At teh time a brilliant film but eventualy became old and dull due to too many films ripping of the idea of bullet time.

The Matrix Re-loaded - Nothing compared to the latter, however this film does tend to grow on teh viewer, Bullet time appears to be mostly done away with except for random bits.

The Matrix Revolutions - Possibly one of the THE WORST films ive ever seen, i wish id gone to see a fire work show now, this is just a dire attempt to conclude the series. A very poor effort indeed.

The Animatrix - Short animated episodes related to the Matrix, most of them brilliant bar a few....

discuss:-

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go on....
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Yikes! Am I back at school?
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The Matrix - At teh time a brilliant film but eventualy became old and dull due to too many films ripping of the idea of bullet time.



One firm succeeded in ripping off bullet time, and that was Finnish Remedy, the maker of the million-seller computer game Max Payne. Really a great movie-like game.

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Ill agree with you on that. I am a big fan of max payne. Infact I just finnished the second one last night just after posting this thread...

However, Max Payne 2 - The Fall of Max Payne is dissapointingly short....

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On a further note... Max payne had an excuse for Bullet time. The Max Payne Idea was that when bullet time was activated and everything slowed down it was supposed to be how the character was seeing things due to massive rushes of adrenaline during a gun fight, hence being able to aim in real-time whilst everything else was slowed down. The Matrix on the other hand was just trying to look fancy...
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The Matrix - At teh time a brilliant film but eventualy became old and dull due to too many films ripping of the idea of bullet time.



I disagree here, because bullet time was only one element in what made The Matrix great. Take that away (or dilute it by using it in other lesser films) and you still have a great story. When I came out of The Matrix, it was the story I talked to all my friends about, not the effects.

Watching it again on DVD, for the Nth time, and I still talk about the story. It's still great.

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The Matrix Re-loaded - Nothing compared to the latter, however this film does tend to grow on teh viewer, Bullet time appears to be mostly done away with except for random bits.



Never went to see this because I didn't think The Matrix story needed a sequel. I finally saw it on DVD a week ago and I'm glad I didn't waste my money on the cinema ticket.


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The Matrix Revolutions - Possibly one of the THE WORST films ive ever seen, i wish id gone to see a fire work show now, this is just a dire attempt to conclude the series. A very poor effort indeed.



I don't intend to watch this. (See above comment)

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The Animatrix - Short animated episodes related to the Matrix, most of them brilliant bar a few....



Some of them were good, some were average. The standard of CGI in the Osiris story was incredible but it was a feeble story: just an excuse the hang the animation on. The rest had good animation and/or decent stories, but none were spectacular enough to make me want to watch them again.

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Ill agree with you on that. I am a big fan of max payne. Infact I just finnished the second one last night just after posting this thread...

However, Max Payne 2 - The Fall of Max Payne is dissapointingly short....




I've only played the first one through. Hmmm, the review I read about MP2 said also that it's too short, so I'll be not buying it. The games are too short nowadays *sigh*.
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QUOTE - "I disagree here, because bullet time was only one element in what made The Matrix great. Take that away (or dilute it by using it in other lesser films) and you still have a great story. When I came out of The Matrix, it was the story I talked to all my friends about, not the effects.

Watching it again on DVD, for the Nth time, and I still talk about the story. It's still great."


Well ill have to disagree with you on that really, Bullet time was a nice Idea yeah, but I dont think it worked to well, it made the scenes drag, looked incredibly false and therefor was generaly lame. Ill agree with you about the story though, although the Matrix is very much a Direct ripoff of both Terminator and Ghost In The Shell.

On a further note, Equilibrium was made in the same kinda style as the matrix and didnt need Bullet time to make the film good. Equilibrium is just a brilliant stand alone film. Thje Idea of the Clerics and the skills they learn (gun katta) is brilliant due to the fact that it may actualy be possible, maybe not to the digree shown in the film but in a similar manor.
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I thought that Revolutions was a good movie, except that the ending could have been done a whole lot better. The first Matrix was definitely the best. It also made the Twins from Reloaded the most overhyped characters in all of film.


High We're the Twins. We Are The Darth Mauls of The Matrix, but More Insignificant.
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