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JSA wrote:

That was almost twenty-five years ago when he did the Sabbath stuff. That tour basically ended what was left of his voice.

Either way, I doubt that he could do them justice these days. Not that Coverdale did much justice to Purple during his tenure.




I realize that his voice is no where as strong today.

But even in that period, until I heard it, I wouldn't have thought that he would have given the Sabbath stuff justice. The man has proven a lot of versatility over the years.

Still, he is in his 60's now. So much one can expect.
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I remember steadfastly avoiding Yngwie's "Odyssey" lp due to Joe Lynn Turner's inclusion into the roster. However, after having relented somewhat and bought the "Live in Leningrad" album, I went back and purchased Odyssey. The reason? I was SHOCKED at how much JLT had improved/changed since his tiresome Lou Gramm/Paul Rodgers obsession in Rainbow. The material he did with Yngwie proved him to be right up there with Gillan, Bonnett, Halford, Soto, and Boals, imo. I thought he smoked Coverdale, and even gave Hughes a run for his money (I won't bother mentioning King Dio here, for obvious reasons).
I don't know if he's still "got" what he did with Yngwie, but I'd kill to work with him in a band if he does.

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i heard JLT performing spanish castle magic (from leningrad album)and didnt impressed me at all.

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i heard JLT performing spanish castle magic (from leningrad album)and didnt impressed me at all.



Agreed. The only song he sucked on was by that ridiculously overrated hippie fool. Otherwise, I put his performance right up there with the albums Marching Out, In Rock, Down To Earth, and Zoso. just mo.

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i heard JLT performing spanish castle magic (from leningrad album)and didnt impressed me at all.



Really? I think it was awesome!

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Gillan was great on Ozzy stuff and horrible on Heaven and Hell and Neon Nights. Rob Halford, being a metal god sucked badly on both Dio and Ozzy stuff. Dio blew Ozzy's classic completely - so it's a very complicated issue. I'm sure Gillan would butcher any MK3 stuff, just as they butchered his. He could be great on Rod's songs like April but alas we're never gonna hear that. Not from that nostalgia act called Purple these days.
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a) Gillan was great on Ozzy stuff...

b)...horrible on Heaven and Hell and Neon Nights.

c) Dio blew Ozzy's classic completely...

d) ...so it's a very complicated issue.

e) I'm sure Gillan would butcher any MK3 stuff, just as they butchered his.

f) He could be great on Rod's songs like April...

g) ...but alas we're never gonna hear that.





a) Agreed.

b) Disagree. I can't say regarding all the times Gillan performed these songs, but the ones I heard were damn good.

c) Partially agree. I don't think Dio completely 'blew away' Ozzy's versions of these songs while he was Sabbath's vocalist, but he came pretty damn close.
   In all honesty, I consider Ozzy to be severely handicapped (he's a horrible singer - but was a fantastic entertainer) in any discussion comparing him (as Sabbath's vocalist) to either Dio or Gillan. I'm aware that what I just said is virtual heresy to Sabbath fans, but there it is.
 So, in terms of Ozzy being virtually 'perfect' as Sabbath's first vocalist from an 'image' standpoint, being almost perfectly suited to the music given his vocal limitations and the high quality of his showmanship, I don't think any succeeding vocalist ever 'blew him away'. Both Dio + Gillan were far superior as 'pure' (for lack of a better word) vocalists, so in that regard alone I do agree that their versions are 'better' to my ears than Ozzy's originals.

d) Not really. At the end, it comes down to a subjective choice - see the end of c) above.

e) Disagree - with a disclaimer - about Gillan 'butchering' any MkIII stuff. *Disclaimer* Though I don't think Gillan would do MkIII material any justice at the present, if he'd have decided to do some from between the time it was first recorded, 1973, and over the next 2 decades, say to 1993, I have every confidence it would've been superb. Not only does he lack the 'voice' now, but I just don't see the necessity or feel the desire as strongly as I had, which was up 'til around the early '90s - yes, when Blackmore left.
  Though Coverdale (and Hughes, to an extent) didn't do ALL the justice to the MkII material they were obliged to perform as members of MkIII that I feel they could've, I put most of that down to the fact that in 1973, Ian Gillan was completely, totally unmatchable as a vocalist. Coverdale did his best, but I think the versions of MkII material by any succeeding vocalist would've been deemed inferior (for lack of a better word) by DP fans in general.

f) Agree. I had every confidence that Gillan could - and did, for the ones he did perform - more than do justice to MkI material.

g) Agree. Probably not.

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I agree with most of what the moderator wrote. BUT... Gillan (imo) was untouchable until Dio "Rising" performance. Right around 1976-1978, I can't see him being touched. Gillan/as well as the at the time phenomenal Halford and Plant were all outstanding vocalists (not forgetting Hughes and perhaps to a slightly lesser degree Coverdale). But just listen to Dio on "Stargazer". "A light in the Black", and most of the live stuff from that period. Blackmore pushed him really hard...

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Knocking at Your Back Door
JLT...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNHUvH-LWMY
not bad
I like it better than the original..well, maybe not that extreme, but it kicks ass!

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