How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard? https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/t705 Runboard| How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard? en-us Thu, 28 Mar 2024 16:41:49 +0000 Thu, 28 Mar 2024 16:41:49 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11289,from=rss#post11289https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11289,from=rss#post11289quote:David Meadows wrote: quote:gingernuts wrote: I have the very old windows 98. My language is set to US english but I can't seem to do anything about it. Sorry it took a while to answer your PM, life is kind of hectic at the moment and I'm not caught up with everything. Thanks for that. nondisclosed_email@example.com (gingernuts)Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:37:44 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11288,from=rss#post11288https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11288,from=rss#post11288quote:David Meadows wrote: . At least the Windows version is printed on the box What box?nondisclosed_email@example.com (mrsnip)Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:40:03 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11287,from=rss#post11287https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11287,from=rss#post11287quote:gingernuts wrote: I have the very old windows 98. My language is set to US english but I can't seem to do anything about it. Sorry it took a while to answer your PM, life is kind of hectic at the moment and I'm not caught up with everything. nondisclosed_email@example.com (David Meadows)Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:10:27 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11286,from=rss#post11286https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11286,from=rss#post11286quote:MrSnip wrote: quote:David Meadows wrote: You could follow MrSnip's helpful suggestion, but he uses a primitive operating system that doesn't let you easily change your keyboard layout. Luckily, you have useful tools in Windows that let you do just that Actually, my operating system is primitive. The ideas was invented back in the '60ies (correct me if I'm wrong). I think you're probably right. quote:MrSnip wrote: But true David's probably got the right solution for you, once he knows, exactly which edition of your operating system you're running. Remember, it's not enough to know it's called Windows! Yeah, but thank god I don't also have to ask "and what shell are you using?". At least the Windows version is printed on the box nondisclosed_email@example.com (David Meadows)Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:06:16 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11285,from=rss#post11285https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11285,from=rss#post11285I have the very old windows 98. My language is set to US english but I can't seem to do anything about it.nondisclosed_email@example.com (gingernuts)Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:08:34 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11284,from=rss#post11284https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11284,from=rss#post11284quote:David Meadows wrote: You could follow MrSnip's helpful suggestion, but he uses a primitive operating system that doesn't let you easily change your keyboard layout. Luckily, you have useful tools in Windows that let you do just that Actually, my operating system is primitive. The ideas was invented back in the '60ies (correct me if I'm wrong). My operating system is so primitive it can be run from 1 (one) cdrom, giving me my webserver, mailserver, Image Manipulation Program and Office suite (among others). But true David's probably got the right solution for you, once he knows, exactly which edition of your operating system you're running. Remember, it's not enough to know it's called Windows! brgds MrSnip, who loves it when ones primitive operating system doesn't change behaviour just because of a wrong click of the mousenondisclosed_email@example.com (mrsnip)Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:41:44 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11283,from=rss#post11283https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11283,from=rss#post11283quote:gingernuts wrote: Most helpful about the £ sign as mine has gone missing. I don't know what I did to the keyboard but all my symbols have changed around and now i have to hold down shift+2 to get the @ sign. Does anyone know how I can get it all back to where it was? You could follow MrSnip's helpful suggestion, but he uses a primitive operating system that doesn't let you easily change your keyboard layout. Luckily, you have useful tools in Windows that let you do just that The process is slightly different for each version of Windows, so if what I write below makes no sense, tell me which version you have and I'll try to be more specific. 1. Open "Control Panel" 2. Open the "Keyboard" program from the control panel. 3. Select the thing called "Input Locales" (or similar). 4. In the list of langauges, you will see you have something weird selected (probably US English). Change this to UK English.nondisclosed_email@example.com (David Meadows)Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:21:21 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11282,from=rss#post11282https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11282,from=rss#post11282quote:gingernuts wrote: Most helpful about the £ sign as mine has gone missing. I don't know what I did to the keyboard but all my symbols have changed around and now i have to hold down shift+2 to get the @ sign. Does anyone know how I can get it all back to where it was? start->run->command format c: reinstall Windows . . . . Please note, do not do this, unless you want to delete your entire c-drive. nondisclosed_email@example.com (mrsnip)Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:24:36 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11281,from=rss#post11281https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11281,from=rss#post11281Most helpful about the £ sign as mine has gone missing. I don't know what I did to the keyboard but all my symbols have changed around and now i have to hold down shift+2 to get the @ sign. Does anyone know how I can get it all back to where it was?nondisclosed_email@example.com (gingernuts)Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:16:50 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11280,from=rss#post11280https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11280,from=rss#post11280wow cool! thanx!nondisclosed_email@example.com (mkj)Mon, 08 Dec 2003 13:07:34 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11279,from=rss#post11279https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11279,from=rss#post11279quote:mkj wrote: how do you get the (r) sign...? alt + 0174 ® nondisclosed_email@example.com (David Meadows)Mon, 08 Dec 2003 10:41:39 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11278,from=rss#post11278https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11278,from=rss#post11278cool stuff!!! how do you get the (r) sign...? muchas gracias nondisclosed_email@example.com (mkj)Sun, 07 Dec 2003 19:52:38 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11277,from=rss#post11277https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11277,from=rss#post11277Yes, we have the Qwertz, system. I remember having read something about it´s origin as well, I might dig that out somewhere. Also we have the ÄÖÜ signs and the sharp ß in the numbers bar.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Milan Fahrnholz)Fri, 05 Dec 2003 15:26:38 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11276,from=rss#post11276https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11276,from=rss#post11276quote:Firlefanz wrote: Isn't it altGr for [], { and }? Same for the backslash - at least on mine. And I have the € and the $ sign... and, compared to a US keyboard, y and z are switched around.   I thought it was <AltGr>, but when I tested it could also be done with <alt>. The backslash however is the <AltGr>. The switching around y and z, I believe is a special German layout. In Denmark (and many other contries), we've adopted the QWERTY system, except for  a) modern/weird keyboards  b) special Characters.nondisclosed_email@example.com (mrsnip)Fri, 05 Dec 2003 15:09:35 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11275,from=rss#post11275https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11275,from=rss#post11275Isn't it altGr for [], { and }? Same for the backslash - at least on mine. And I have the € and the $ sign... and, compared to a US keyboard, y and z are switched around.   nondisclosed_email@example.com (Firlefanz)Thu, 04 Dec 2003 21:55:13 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11274,from=rss#post11274https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11274,from=rss#post11274quote:David Meadows wrote: I need the shift key for some of those symbols. I've never thought of it as a problem, it's just what I've got used to. Well, either I have to move my right hand from the mouse to the keyboard, or I have to make a finger-stretching, to get [alt]+[9] to close a "[" with an "]". Same goes for "{}" which is on 7 and 9. So one hand typing is difficult. Something I learned to do with the US keyboard, far more convienient, than our danish. It's only a matter of habbit, I've got used to the DK-keyboard layout, and I would have big problems (for a little while) if I went back to US keyboard.nondisclosed_email@example.com (mrsnip)Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:57:23 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11273,from=rss#post11273https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11273,from=rss#post11273quote:MrSnip wrote: I was referring to the location of the keys. I don̈́'t know the uk keyboard, but on the danish, \ is a double keystroke, / is located on <Shift>+<7>, [,{,| etc are all combinations of <Alt>+<numeric key, but not on numeric keypad>. All very annoying. Asterix is a shift command, and so is question mark. I need the shift key for some of those symbols. I've never thought of it as a problem, it's just what I've got used to.nondisclosed_email@example.com (David Meadows)Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:37:38 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11272,from=rss#post11272https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11272,from=rss#post11272quote:David Meadows wrote: quote:MrSnip wrote: And I know, that you know, that if you're programming, it makes a lot of sence to use an American keyboard layout. I did that for years, but it ended, when I had to use computers daily, with a danish keyboard layout. No, I didn't know that! I have every key I need on a UK keyboard, it's just the locations of some symbols that have changed from the US layout. I hadn't considered other European languages, but I guess they still have the same important symbols such as $ \ / etc., don't they? I was referring to the location of the keys. I don̈́'t know the uk keyboard, but on the danish, \ is a double keystroke, / is located on <Shift>+<7>, [,{,| etc are all combinations of <Alt>+<numeric key, but not on numeric keypad>. All very annoying. Asterix is a shift command, and so is question mark. nondisclosed_email@example.com (mrsnip)Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:29:48 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11271,from=rss#post11271https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11271,from=rss#post11271quote:MrSnip wrote: And I know, that you know, that if you're programming, it makes a lot of sence to use an American keyboard layout. I did that for years, but it ended, when I had to use computers daily, with a danish keyboard layout. No, I didn't know that! I have every key I need on a UK keyboard, it's just the locations of some symbols that have changed from the US layout. I hadn't considered other European languages, but I guess they still have the same important symbols such as $ \ / etc., don't they?nondisclosed_email@example.com (David Meadows)Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:06:43 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11270,from=rss#post11270https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11270,from=rss#post11270And I know, that you know, that if you're programming, it makes a lot of sence to use an American keyboard layout. I did that for years, but it ended, when I had to use computers daily, with a danish keyboard layout.nondisclosed_email@example.com (mrsnip)Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:01:26 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11269,from=rss#post11269https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11269,from=rss#post11269And I know you know I was just doing the same in the first place nondisclosed_email@example.com (David Meadows)Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:25:06 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11268,from=rss#post11268https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11268,from=rss#post11268Just pulling your strings David. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gillans micstand)Thu, 04 Dec 2003 10:38:42 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11267,from=rss#post11267https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11267,from=rss#post11267quote:Gillans micstand wrote: Thank you David but I see you don't insult anyone as you have stated before, but how about refraining from remarks about the sensiblity of ones county when reffering to hardware? Dry as they come are we not. My computer has £ and $ ...surely much more sensible than only having one of them? nondisclosed_email@example.com (David Meadows)Thu, 04 Dec 2003 10:35:27 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11266,from=rss#post11266https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11266,from=rss#post11266© is Alt + 0169nondisclosed_email@example.com (David Meadows)Thu, 04 Dec 2003 10:34:15 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11265,from=rss#post11265https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11265,from=rss#post11265Thank you David but I see you don't insult anyone as you have stated before, but how about refraining from remarks about the sensiblity of ones country when reffering to hardware? Dry as they come are we not. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gillans micstand)Thu, 04 Dec 2003 06:08:34 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11264,from=rss#post11264https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11264,from=rss#post11264quote:David Meadows wrote: To get a British £ symbol: METHOD ONE ---------- 1) press your "Num Lock" key (if the "Num Lock" light isn't already illuminated) 2) Hold down the "Alt" key 3) On the numeric keypad (the square of numeric keys at the right of your keyboard), type 1 then 5 then 6, while keeping the "Alt" key depressed. 4) Release the "Alt" key. ££££££££££££££££££££££££££ AHHHH HAAAA!!! WHAT DA' THINK A' ME NOW? SOMEBODY STOP ME....THIS IS JUST TOO MUCH FUN!nondisclosed_email@example.com (B3Burner)Thu, 04 Dec 2003 05:45:54 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11263,from=rss#post11263https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11263,from=rss#post11263Wow you guys, thanks! I'm gonna' look like a well traveled man of international distinction in no time!! (Or some dumbfuck from Concord, California; trying to act like a well traveled man of international distinction) nondisclosed_email@example.com (B3Burner)Thu, 04 Dec 2003 05:38:19 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11262,from=rss#post11262https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11262,from=rss#post11262How about the (c) /copyright sign, Mr. Meadows? I now know the £ sign thanks to you, after 4 years of computing nondisclosed_email@example.com (ponytrekker)Thu, 04 Dec 2003 01:17:59 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11261,from=rss#post11261https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11261,from=rss#post11261quote:Niko Vidgren wrote: I can also get them by first pressing the button with the double dots (placed near Enter-key) and then pressing a or o. Very interesting keyboard, that one... As mine is a German keyboard, it has the Umlaute, and the € sign - but not that key with the double dots. Oh, and these are the ascii code for a number of Scandinavian signs - use them just like David described it: ø = alt + 0248 Ø = alt + 0216 æ = alt + 0230 Æ = alt + 0198 å = alt + 0229 Å = alt + 0197 Whenever I get around to looking up the German ones, I'll post them.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Firlefanz)Wed, 03 Dec 2003 16:43:43 +0000 Re: How to get "alternate" symbols out of an American computer keyboard?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11260,from=rss#post11260https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p11260,from=rss#post11260To get a British £ symbol: METHOD ONE ---------- 1) press your "Num Lock" key (if the "Num Lock" light isn't already illuminated) 2) Hold down the "Alt" key 3) On the numeric keypad (the square of numeric keys at the right of your keyboard), type 1 then 5 then 6, while keeping the "Alt" key depressed. 4) Release the "Alt" key. METHOD TWO ---------- Move to a country that uses sensible keyboards Other symbols, such as Ö, have their own numeric codes (for example, 0214 for Ö ) that you can use with method one. But the list of codes is rather lengthy and I'm not going to put them all here!nondisclosed_email@example.com (David Meadows)Wed, 03 Dec 2003 11:40:31 +0000