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Re: Do Tommy Bolin still deserve more respect?


I think it was Jon Lord who tried to explain to Tommy Bolin some song details, asking for guitar to enter after a few bars or something, to what Tommy Bolin replied: "what's a bar?"

It's about like saying "what's a note". Indeed an unexpected comment from a player and songwriter like Bolin. But he's not the only one in that respect. And there's no one saying you need musical theory to be a good player. Most likely Bolin's identity as a player was a result of him finding his very own way of handling the instrument, rather than be taught what's right and what's wrong according to some tradition or school of thinking.

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 I think Blackmore has also made the claim that he himself either still doesn't know how or early on and through most of his career that he doesn't even know how to read a tablature or sheet music. Except for the words, of course of course.
 I agree there's probably more than ample evidence out there of stunning music created purely by 'feel' by a slew of different people, who sort of created their very own 'musical theory' along the way. And thank God for 'em!

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 I agree there's probably more than ample evidence out there of stunning music created purely by 'feel' by a slew of different people, who sort of created their very own 'musical theory' along the way. And thank God for 'em!



Amen!

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I guess that it was common "in the old days" to just play freely, maybe put together a demo, and then make the final recording.

Today, almost everybody uses computers. So you have to understand certain parts of music theory, or at least some methods.

If you use the same vocabulary, the communication is more efficient. And it's easier to edit songs if you know which part, chord or note you are looking for.

Many recordings from "the old days" are more exciting than contemporary ones, because of the live feel. On the other hand, there are lots of stunning songs from way back which are very poorly produced.

I floated away from the subject a little...sorry...
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Today, almost everybody uses computers. So you have to understand certain parts of music theory, or at least some methods.



I'd say way too many uses computers to produce crap music. And to ruin what could have been a good recording with too much focus on perfectionism.

It's like having an automatic spelling correction on your pc - it doesn't do much good if you don't have anything interesting to say anyway. If you do though, one occasional typing mistake doesn't mean a thing. Same thing with music to me.

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Well. I can respect him for his work on CTTB. I do not respect him for his interpretations of the Mark II material.

And I won't place him on a pedestal. For me, he was a good guitarist. Not a genious. And I do not really think he would have reached much further. He was too much of a "pretty boy".

It's hard to judge. For me, CTTB has its moments (two or three). But it is still one of the weakest DP albums.



Your point on the 'interpretations" is an interesting one.I don't think all of Tommy's ideas worked,but I have to admire taking the risk of changing the structure to redefine the tunes in his own way,otherwise it becomes the cover band syndrome that many complain about with the current lineup.

Tommy was headed for stardom if he'd pulled himself together.The labels were behind him and the publicity was starting to take off.He was even featured in 16 magazine,the teeny bopper pub!He certainly could deliver the goods,song wise,and he had a great marketable image/look.Unfortunately,his personal problems bit him in the ass.

Oddly enogh,I have the exact opposite opinion of CTTB,but to each their own.
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