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Re: Ritchie's Own ENGL Amp Settings


Here's a link to review and a picture o the MTC:-
MTC Review and Pictures
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Thanks for the additional information! Yes I am a frequent visitor to Dawk's forum and read about the MTC. I even had Dawk advise me of what pickups to use so I will defintely do some business with him. The Pre Amp looks impressive and I was surprised that the tape deck was not a valve powered unit.
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Thanks for the additional information! Yes I am a frequent visitor to Dawk's forum and read about the MTC. I even had Dawk advise me of what pickups to use so I will defintely do some business with him. The Pre Amp looks impressive and I was surprised that the tape deck was not a valve powered unit.



The pre-amp sounds every bit as good as it looks and the production version I think now is costing around £ 1,700 GBP rather than the £ 2,500 initially suggested. They are well worth a buy I have one of the early prototypes and it's fabulous. There is also a combo version of this being made jsut now and it sounds amazing as well. Costs around £ 900 for the basic but you can add different speakers and different cases and things. The basic sound is the same clever valve circuits from the pre-amp.

The tape deck being transistorized came as a surprise to me too, but it's not as mad as it seems, back then they were trying to get away from valves and logically the input pre-amp in a recording device, like a tape deck would in theory be the best quality you could buy which would give a noiseless, transparent sound. Apparently Dawk modified Ritchies to change some component values and get a precise sound. You cant buy these AIWA deck these days, but you can still get hold of some very similar AKAI models which will do the job as well. The AKAI 1710 can be bought on ebay for about £ 100GBP which is probably what they cost new 30 years ago !! They sound fine
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You cant buy these AIWA deck these days, but you can still get hold of some very similar AKAI models which will do the job as well




Hmmm, is that tape deck worth its money?

Thanks for that picture btw.

EDIT: Just googled about the tape deck - it's equipped with tubes, right? Scroll down a bit


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You cant buy these AIWA deck these days, but you can still get hold of some very similar AKAI models which will do the job as well




Hmmm, is that tape deck worth its money?

Thanks for that picture btw.

EDIT: Just googled about the tape deck - it's equipped with tubes, right? Scroll down a bit



I've looked at the pictures and this is nothing like mine, so I've checked mine and silly me it's a 1721L which is transistorised!!!

This 1710 model looks more impressive and may/may not sound more impressive. Basically the 1721L has a built in power amp for replays, whcih you can easily disconnect then re-wire the outputs to give you a dircet output for your amp, or as I do you can take one output to one amp and the other to a different amp. It's a little noisy and can generate way more gain than the front end of the amp can handle. It measured at +70dB increase in gain!! Most "boost" pedals give +20dB max.

Consequently when using this I can run the tape deck at 1/8th gain, and the amp on a clean setting with gain at 1/4 and master volume to suit. Result is a flat highly driven yet essentially clean drive sound. It's not the same as Ritchie( thankfully!), but it's close and contains the elements of his sounded I like and wanted in my own and combined with the MTC which I have from Dawk it gives a great quality sound. Becuase very the gain is built into the different stages, noise is minimal and clarity is signicant. Also it's possible to take an output from the headphone sockt of the tape deck as well, now is is more "colourful" but when it goes to one amp and the normal output goes to another the balance can be interesting. Splitting this way also allows for placing things like the Octivider on one amp so the natural and effect sound are generated from different amps, which I think listening to Ritchie's live sound is something he does. It gives both sounds better definition and again better clarity overall.

So many ways to skin a cat as they say !!!
The 1721L is well worth a buy in my view, it looks mean too!
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Okay, thank you for that very much!

I've checked Ebay, and they've got only the 1721W at time, but I'll keep looking up there.

I think that "clean disortion" is just what I need, like said before, I don't want to sound like Ritchie at all, but need some elements of his for my personal.

Dawk is also building the MTC for me now, I'm looking forward to the results...

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Maybe this is a bit technical for here and maybe you've seen this already.
But here's a pic, that was posted originally by the late Rainier Duda I think, which excites the guitarists amongst us ! THis is an ENGL Sovereign 50 COmbo, used in Blackmore's NightImage

I wish that photo was available as it has been too long since I have read this thread and can't remember anything about the settings. Perhaps someone saved the photo onto their computer in the past to share again?

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I did find this photo from this forum's thread but I do remember it is not the same photo which was in the first post by BTN. I am unsure whether Blackmore would have changed his settings over the years but worth investigating to improve one's sound.Image
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I did find this photo from this forum's thread but I do remember it is not the same photo which was in the first post by BTN. I am unsure whether Blackmore would have changed his settings over the years but worth investigating to improve one's sound.

Ha! Me again and I believe this was the original photo in the first post of this thread.Image



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