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MrsSnap wrote:

Ian Gillan told the half tour in front of the audience that you'll be back in 4 days. Even as the 4 days have been over.
What shall I call it else than a lie?

If he didn't know he shouldn't have told something what not happened.Would have saved a lot of disappointment and money.

I would love to see it in another way.

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It could be "misunderstanding how serious it is", which is a lot different from a lie.

For example, my boss went in to have hand surgery on Monday morning. He was CERTAIN that it was minor and he would be back in work on Monday afternoon with a small bandage on. Even after the operation on Monday he phoned me to say he would be in soon.

Well, it's Friday and he's still not back yet.

With medical problems and injuries it's not always obvious how serious things will be and how quick the recovery will be, as I'm sure you know.



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Well, the problem is I've sorted my facts very well.

After Sweden/Danmark/Germany Purple toured through Russia. Still nothing of Jons departure announced.At least not official emoticon.

I mean when I buy a ticket I want to see the line-up with which the tour is announced and confirmed. It's the same in a cinema I buy a ticket for a chosen film not another.

Mr. Gillan was named as an example. The "game" was played of many. Management, band... just the people who shut up.

Why it was played? In order to make money I guess. Forgotten have been the fans coming to see Jon Lord.Some more than 30 years. This tours should have been cancelled else a fan could be feeling betrayed and frustrated.

No offence against Mr. Lord or Mr. Gillan just an opinion of a deep disappointed ex-DP fan.And of course no offence to Don Airey who is a very sympathic person with much engagement and knowledge to handle his instrument.

Unfortunaltely for me there is no substitute for Jon Lord. He's the master of the keys. He is keys 1 emoticon. But that's a "problem" I've to live with.
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It didn´t sound like lying to me. Well you can never tell, but I felt that he was having faith(might be the better word even if it might have been blind faith) if even a bit doubts he didn´t want to see himself, so why pass that on?
If he strongly belived it himself he´d be back at some time of the tour(I belive four days were just a saying and nothing concrete) and no one probably knew...and who knows anyway, I don´t so what do I say?emoticon

I just belive that it might possible that there really have been "unforeseen circumstances" in the past which lead them to break the one or another promise rather than breaking promises on intention in order to get more money out of the people.

Well...at least that´s what I want to belive, and I do.
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I just belive that it might possible that there really have been "unforeseen circumstances" in the past which lead them to break the one or another promise rather than breaking promises on intention in order to get more money out of the people.
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David, Mr.Snip and you (half way) have convinced me. I take the word lie back. Sorry. But the word lie becomes substituted to border to the truth. Guess Mr. Gillan is generally known to overdo his words. When I only think about how long the fans waited for "Bananas" and how often he announced a nearly ready new album incl. dates of releases which only has been ready in his dreams.
Here are not only promises broken, also contracts in order to get more money out of the people.At least that is valid for the beginning of the Russia tour where the departure of Jon was known when I believe what I read in the THS interview the decission was fallen during the German tour. But nothing was said. To say not the truth (nothing) is no lie. Doing it in order to get more money from the peolpe is.... (Take a word you think it's fitting emoticon )
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I can´t remember the exact words of that interview but hasn´t it said that Jon made that decision for himself at that time and not that it was confirmed by him? It´s just that I can´t remember having read Jon had confirmed anything by that time, but I might be wrong...

Anyway, there was the farewell tour, which got great reports so if that was not something for the fans...
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Anyway, there was the farewell tour, which got great reports so if that was not something for the fans...



Yes, it was something for the fans!!

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The only problem was that you haven't been sure if the master is playing or not. But we have been all lucky bastards emoticon .

After paying 9 tickets x 2 persons = 18 times to see Jon Lord.

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When did Jon decide to leave Deep Purple , and what were the circumstances leading up to his departure from the band?



Was about time he did something on his own, wasn't it?
Hiding in a band all his career, tsk!

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As long as Jon hasn't quit touring and recording, I keep smiling! emoticon
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I saw them last year here in Kansas City, and loved them. I was way back in the gods, (OK, the lawn) so "assumed" it was Jon I was hearing on stage.

Aside from the fact that I was seriously miffed at the Scorps taking the headline role, it was a great show. Then I came home to find that Jon had retired the year before (?) and that it was Don Airey on the keyboards.

Well, all credit to Don for filling Jon's shoes so admirably, but I admit my heart sunk when I heard that Jon had retired. I was greatly pleased to see his name in the credits for Bananas, although still disappointed that he wasn't playing on it.

I wish that the official site had a "Where are they now" page, so that Jon could be acknowledged accordlingly, but then they'd have to have a page for Ritchie too! =0)

So, I am looking forward to seeing them again in a few days, again in KC, I REALLY like the new cd, but it still seems somehow wrong, that DP are touring without Jon.

Still, there were those that said the same of Styx without Dennis De Young - except that Dennis De Young was a prick - and they ROCK now.

Hoping that Jon is at least enjoying himself: he deserves it, he's the best

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