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MrEd's "Official" Essential Live Deep Purple Albums...


 Sort of a companion list to the other(s), but this one is exclusively for Deep Purple "official" live releases. Of the 30(?) available - I have 28 (?). I know, I know...I should've went and counted first, but I wanted to get this done before I forgot...again! To make it "essential", I chose to limit the # to 15 titles^


"Inglewood 10-16-68"*
"Kneel + Pray"
"Scandinavian Nights"
"Black Night In Denmark"**
"In Concert '70-'72"
"Made In Japan/Live In Japan"***
"California Jamming"
"Live In London"
"Made In Europe/MkIII Final Concerts/Live In Paris '75"****
"Nobody's Perfect"
"On The Wings Of A Russian Foxbat"
"Come Hell Or High Water"
"Live + Rare '84-'00 Bootleg Collection"
"Live At The Olympia '96"
"Total Abandon '99"



^But I didn't exactly stick to that!

*This is an old Bootleg title I just happen to have always liked.Also Known As "Live At The Forum"(official title) + "Purple Storm"(another old bootleg title)+ "The Boot Of Taliesyn" (obviously another bootleg title).

**Another old Bootleg title I just always loved! It's official title(s) are "Live In Denmark" or "Live Machine Head '72" (dvd), though. Another old bootleg title is "Wonderful Copenhagen" - which I believe was also used for a MkIII bootleg, causing no little confusion amongst bootleg collectors!

***I know...I cheated! But it comes damn close to having all 3 concerts fully represented, so why don't we just think of it as a 5 cd set? emoticon

****I know...I cheated again! emoticon Unless or until the boxed set of all 3 concerts is compiled and released, we'll consider this as that box set, okay? emoticon

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I believe your using the term "official" pretty loosely.
If I'm wrong,please define "official" clearly, as to avoid a whole different discussion than your looking for.emoticon
Not all of these releases can be difined as such imo.emoticon

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a)I believe your using the term "official" pretty loosely.

b)If I'm wrong,please define "official" clearly, as to avoid a whole different discussion than your looking for.emoticon

c)Not all of these releases can be difined as such imo.emoticon




a) Nope. Not loosely at all. Please explain for me how releases through Purple Records/Sonic Zoom;Harvest;EMI;Connoisseur;Warner Brothers;Capitol;Rhino;Thames + RCA/BMG DON'T qualify as "official". All of the albums listed have been released through AT LEAST one of the companies I just listed. I'll be happy to add the releasing companies after each title.

b) Although I'd rather you told me yourself, I've a suspicion that it's the titles I used that are causing your question(s). On that charge, I can be found guilty. I tend to use old bootleg titles in some instances as I like 'em better, is all. I'll edit in some "aka" or "alternate title"s to try and alleviate that.

c) They're all official, and your opinion about the "officiality" is irrelevant. emoticon, along with your definition of "official". I believe that was discussed on another recent thread...er, at least one. emoticon

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Gillans micstand wrote:

a)I believe your using the term "official" pretty loosely.

b)If I'm wrong,please define "official" clearly, as to avoid a whole different discussion than your looking for.emoticon

c)Not all of these releases can be difined as such imo.emoticon




a) Nope. Not loosely at all. Please explain for me how releases through Purple Records/Sonic Zoom;Harvest;EMI;Connoisseur;Warner Brothers;Capitol;Rhino;Thames + RCA/BMG DON'T qualify as "official". All of the albums listed have been released through AT LEAST one of the companies I just listed. I'll be happy to add the releasing companies after each title.

b) Although I'd rather you told me yourself, I've a suspicion that it's the titles I used that are causing your question(s). On that charge, I can be found guilty. I tend to use old bootleg titles in some instances as I like 'em better, is all. I'll edit in some "aka" or "alternate title"s to try and alleviate that.

c) They're all official, and your opinion about the "officiality" is irrelevant. emoticon, along with your definition of "official". I believe that was discussed on another recent thread...er, at least one. emoticon


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Neither of you own enough to know what is "official" and what isn't.(obviously)
An "official" release is a band release for the most part.(hence "loosely")
For instance the term "official bootleg"
has never been released by Deep Purple.
LATO is the case in point here,it was decided by the band not to release it so Roger took it upon himself to have it released.(not Deep Purple)
You can call it what you want,and you will anyway,I know but you are using the term loosely,don't bother responding to the master record collector,but I'm sure you'll come up with something.
Just exactly how do the labels you mention constitute "official".
Just because they are liscensed to make records and have permission to do so doesn't make them 'official".
An "official" Deep Purple release is a
band release or record company affiliated with the band's record company release.
Most of the records mentioned here are liscensed product but not released by the band,they do recieve a cut for it but thats about it,the final decision to release it is not theirs.(hence "loosely")
You take me way too seriously,as if I'm having a go at you or something.omg:/emoticon
As for an incredibly average collector,they can buy the term "official" all they want,that is theirs and your choice. emoticon
As for me,I make my own decisions pops. emoticon

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Neither of you own enough to know what is "official" and what isn't.(obviously)


Please enlighten us..if you will.. oh master
and owner of many things. How much do we need to own before we are granted the passage to the knowledge that you posses in reference to the word "official". Do I need two more cars? Another house maybe? Three more Blackmore signed Strats? A closet full of baggy pants? Two more drawers full of silky undies? The new Britney Spears record?
Please..oh please...let us qualify for the knowledge which has been bestowed upon you oh master and owner of many things.
..look..I have money..please...take a huge sack of cash from me ...emoticon

 
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the latest Britney Spears record will do,have you heard it yet,it's a must have. emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon
Tisk tisk,now now don't get your silkies in an uproar over a term that I find to be used
"loosely" I tried to explain nicely.
Take the words lightly for they have no more meaning than yours. emoticon

It's never that I posses,it's always what I posses.A point which is most often taken way out of context by people with major inferiority complexes. emoticon
I'm glad to see that you don't go to the extreme of accusing my of not spreading the wealth,I haven't heard you complain of my generosity yet. emoticon
I'll fatten you up yet,patience my friend patience. emoticon

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There's a clarification of the mechanics of 'official' releases repeated again here:

Nigel Young wrote:
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Gillans micstand wrote:

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Actually Scandanavian Nights is just a semi
official release and so is Space because they weren't released by Deep Purple.



Can't say I follow your logic here.... if you say it's semi-official, are you saying it's semi-unofficial? emoticon (This suggests lawyers/police would be interested.) Just because Connoisseur released it? Or the new Purple Records?

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In Concert is not a bootleg of any kind and it makes me wonder why they don't get the go ahead to make more live albums of this nature instead of having to release stuff on labels like CC and the newly relaunched Purple records,it's not the same record company that Purple owned,it's strictly an archive label so anything they release is semi official from what was once bootleg material except for rare studio recordings ala pre Purple and the like,I'm glad they do a fine job remastering stuff from the original source, they do great work. emoticon



You're only differentiation seems to be, if it's pre-reunion material and it's on EMI, it's official.... and if it isn't on EMI, it's semi-official! Not so.
 
Deep Purple didn't (and still don't) 'release' albums.

Pre-reunion, DP 'recorded' them, and HEC 'licensed' them under contract to EMI (Tetragrammaton and later Warners for the USA, and Polydor and later Warners for Canada & Japan) who 'release' them.

Now, DP(O) licence previously unreleased material to whoever they feel can do the best for them.

Occasionally that was Connoiseur. With the bonus material relating to the remastered albums it was/is EMI. For live DP and old and previously unreleased Purple Records material, it's the new Purple label - though EMI did quite well out of the Box Set.

And Purple will be releasing the remastered, properly sequenced, Scan' Nights 1970 set. And that will be official.

Looking at the post-reunion period, the RAH/Concerto '99 set was offered to EMI, who they were under contract to, but EMI turned it down (and might be kicking themselves for doing so) - and that doesn't make it an unofficial album.... though, by your thought processes demonstrated so far, you'd probably disagree.

Nigel
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I don't often refere to Scandinavian Nights
since I had the "Alive Tribute to Wally" ten years prior to the release of SN



Can't quite see that either, "Wally" was 'released' (wholly unofficially, a bootleg), in 1983.... "Scan' Nights" was officially released in 1988. emoticon


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the latest Britney Spears record will do,have you heard it yet,it's a must have. emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon


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Tisk tisk,now now don't get your silkies in an uproar over a term that I find to be used
"loosely" I tried to explain nicely.
Take the words lightly for they have no more meaning than yours. emoticon


 I'll take the words as lightly as my silkies. Oooohh that feels fine. emoticon

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It's never that I posses,it's always what I posses.A point which is most often taken way out of context by people with major inferiority complexes. emoticon


 How about the way it's taken by people who, like me, love to take peoples comments and spin them around, turn them inside out and upside down just to amuse themselves into thinking they are right and prove whatever worthless point they are trying to make with single finger typed drivel.emoticon

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I'm glad to see that you don't go to the extreme of accusing my of not spreading the wealth,I haven't heard you complain of my generosity yet. emoticon
I'll fatten you up yet,patience my friend patience. emoticon


 You are a generous sort of fellow I'll say that.

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Gillans micstand wrote:

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Neither of you own enough to know what is "official" and what isn't.(obviously)
An "official" release is a band release for the most part.(hence "loosely")



Let me say again, regardless of how many albums anyone has, the band don't release albums, the record companies do.

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For instance the term "official bootleg"
has never been released by Deep Purple.



S'funny, there's such a sticker on many a copy of LATO.

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LATO is the case in point here,it was decided by the band not to release it so Roger took it upon himself to have it released.(not Deep Purple)



EMI released it - Roger did the cover, right?

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Just because they are liscensed to make records and have permission to do so doesn't make them 'official".



That really is nonsense!

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