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Paice vs Bonham/ The Mule vs Moby Dick


I had the chance to compare these two, back to back when I played them for a drummer friend. The Mule from MIJ and Moby from How the West was Won. To me Paice is a lot more dynamic and interesting. Both are great but The Mule just seems to have a lot higher energy level. What does everyone else think?

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Re: Paice vs Bonham/ The Mule vs Moby Dick


It's unfair to compare but any drummer to Paice at his very best, don't you think? emoticon
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True but I do get tired of hearing about how great Bonham was. Just more of the same, Zep just seems to get more recognition.

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Better to hear Bonham, than to hear of him! emoticon

But yeah, seems like there only room for one winner, and the jury agreed on Led Zep. Deep Purple's only chance must be that they are still out there. Maybe a second 'all-time-reunion' in 2008 could do something about the recognition part... emoticon
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Re: Paice vs Bonham/ The Mule vs Moby Dick


 Bonham's legend is firmly cemented due a great deal to his untimely demise. Right, wrong or indifferent - there it is.
 I'm not saying he wasn't deserving of the accolades he was given - not by any means. Just that he never experienced a drop off in stature while alive due to excessively poor performances, so what he left behind is impossible to compare to what he never did. The body of work will stand on it's own merits never to be compared with anything after Bonham had reached a certain age limit...that limit being the date of his death. He's 'frozen in time', so to say...along with Morrison, Hendrix, Moon, Bolin, etc.,etc.
 All that said, what I'll say about each track in question is that neither is among my Top 50 for either band.
 Aahh, alright...if I GOTTA choose - I suppose "The Mule" probably annoys me less than "Moby Dick".
 Which would I want as a drummer to start a band with? [Supposing I could get either when they just starting, too ] I think I'd probably go with Paice.

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I prefer Paice and The Mule.

Bonham was an amazing drummer though.

As for drum solos, I never liked them.
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Well, when you hear the Mule from Made In Japan you hear the actual 6 minutes Ian Paice played, it´s a structred drum solo that knows where it goes from the beginning to the end. And very good at that.

Bonham´s drum solos however were improvised and a looooot longer(they are heavily edited on ALL official live recordings) when he used to do Moby Dick the drum solo was often between 20 and 25 minutes long, which caused many members of the audience to fall asleep during those marathon performances.

Those who like Bonham´s drum solos only know the censored versions(the 12 minute Moby Dick on TSRTS was cut down by Jimmy Page from 27 minutes!). And many of those Marathons I´ve heard on bootlegs are true borefests.

I go for Paicy any day when I have to choose between them, not to forget he developed his evening solos over the years(the Lazy solo is different and the more swing like Speed King solo also).
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Re: Paice vs Bonham/ The Mule vs Moby Dick


The Mule without question, I only know the versions of Moby Dick from TSRTS and the DVD but they're both so utterly arse-paralysingly dull and boring IMHO.

As for the drummers, again, it's an easy victory for Paice to my ears.I don't think Bonham was a particularly outstanding drummer and was only recognised in the first place because he was so noticeable compared to others due to sheer volume and superb production of the drum sounds on Jimmy Page's part. Overall, I think the myth has become bigger than the man and there are and were dozens of drummers much, much better than him.

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Paice and the Mule all the way for me!! The only one who possibly would come any where near the solo from MIJ would be Keith Moon, and unfortunetly that ain't gonna happen.
emoticon (RIP, Keith)

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Bonham, by a conuntry mile. Let's not be silly here, Bonzo defined hard rock drumming long before he passed.

Peart and Moon are the only ones I would mention in the same breath.

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