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xavier46
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Deep Purple without Jon Lord? 
As early as 1969?
Well, then you may just as well have scrapped the whole band in 1969, because he had a hell of a lot to do with the rest of the sound.
And I'm not sure he would have been replaceable, because no other keyboard players at the time were doing what he did (as it would have been a least a decade later before anyone influenced by him, would have been able to emmulate him.)
Yes, Ritchie Blackmore was/is good, and I take nothing from him, but it was his guitar interfacing with JL's organ that made Deep Purple great.
Hate to rile up all the RB fans, but without the organ to offset the stunning guitar work, DP would have been just another "above-average" (but not great) "guitar-based" band.
Jon Lord said, in one of those newspaper snippets inside the WDWTWA? album jacket, that:
"The sound of Deep Purple has a hell of a lot to do with my organ."
And you know what? Be it a boastful statement from a younger man at the time or not, he was indeed correct!!!
Do I detect a bias here? This is coming from a B3 player - not that I disagree with most of what you say... I would venture to say that RB <might> not have become the player he's become without Mr. Lord... Not so sure I agree with you that DP would only have been an above average group, though - different maybe, NOT only 'above average'...
Merry Christmas, btw...
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25/12/2005, 6:17
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 and merry christmas to everyone by the way!!
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25/12/2005, 9:55
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When I think of guitar bands I think of Zep, Sabbath, AC/DC, early Aerosmoth, etc... I don't think DP would of made it as a "Guitar Band". RB is not that type of player. If you listen to Machinehead Blackmore is amazing on the solos but he is barely heard in the rest of the song. Didnt he say that he easily got bored and thats why he was content to let the organist carry the song?
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28/12/2005, 18:30
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xavier46
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When I think of guitar bands I think of Zep, Sabbath, AC/DC, early Aerosmoth, etc... I don't think DP would of made it as a "Guitar Band". RB is not that type of player. If you listen to Machinehead Blackmore is amazing on the solos but he is barely heard in the rest of the song. Didnt he say that he easily got bored and thats why he was content to let the organist carry the song?
He layed back on the rhythm because Lord was there - I'm sure he would've risen to the occasion without a keyboardist!
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28/12/2005, 20:57
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mattdif wrote:
When I think of guitar bands I think of Zep, Sabbath, AC/DC, early Aerosmoth, etc... I don't think DP would of made it as a "Guitar Band". RB is not that type of player. If you listen to Machinehead Blackmore is amazing on the solos but he is barely heard in the rest of the song.
I think he was that kind of player - in Rainbow. Like on "RB's Rainbow" the guitar is very present all over the place. In DP it was different, I agree. The key to that was Jon Lord, no question.
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The last couple of days,I've been listening to the Down To Earth rough mixes,and I keep thinking,man I wish he'd make just one instrumental album,as he was all over the place on that album,without the vocals,it still makes a fine guitar album...ironically with vocals,it's sounds more like a keyboard album. 
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28/12/2005, 21:06
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I keep thinking,man I wish he'd make just one instrumental album
Ditto!
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28/12/2005, 21:25
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keys1
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Hi All
Hope you had a great Christmas, and here's to a happy and, please God, peaceful New Year.
Just had to make a comment or two on the following:-
"The worst result of the Concerto was the fissures it created within Deep Purple itself namely that some of the rest of, if not all the rest of the band were feeling that perhaps Lord was using Deep Purple as merely a tool to further his own classical music ambitions and would leave them without an organist if the right opportunity presented itself."
Well now!!
This really is just not the case you know. These so-called fissures never really existed in the day-to-day life of the band following on from the Concerto. Various odd comments from time to time serve only to point out the high level of anxiety that the band - myself solidly included - had about the project. Also, I didn't have them herded into the Albert Hall in chains - they went willingly! Indeed they all willingly agreed to play it again a few months later at the Hollywood Bowl. While we are on the subject,it has occasionally been said that the Concerto forced RB to begin to move the band towards the "In Rock" style, as a reaction against the Concerto. Well actually we'd already happily begun writing and recording tracks for what became In Rock *before* we even started rehearsing for the Concerto; actually, before it was even sure that it was going to take place. Indeed, we played Child in Time at the Concerto concert.
Futhermore, I stayed in the band for a further 7 years - which is more than you can say for Ian G or RB  - and I think the style of organ-playing I continued to evolve during that period hardly bears out the thought that I was using Deep Purple as merely a tool to further my classical music ambitions. I didn't have "classical music ambitions", I just had - and still have - "music ambitions" and nothing in God's wide Universe would have led me to leave the band that had just helped me to realise one of them, and which promised the realisation of so many more. What "right opportunity" could possibly have presented me with more than I had; i.e. the keyboard seat in one of the really great bands of the time?
Anyway. Enough rabbit. Thanks to you all for your continued interest in various Purple things.
God bless
Jon
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28/12/2005, 23:26
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Tnank you very much Jon. A lot of what you have just said only goes further to solidify what has already been well documented. But for those who aren't quite as well versed in all things Deep Purple (not that any of us really are, with the exception of the band members themselves, and even then I sometimes wonder)your input is a very welcome addition. It's incredibly great to know that some of the band members who have made the music that we have spent so much of our lives cherishing and admiring has the time to take to talk to us.
Thank You Jon.
Brian
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29/12/2005, 0:02
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hi jon
thanks for that info,all the best to you in 2006.
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