Runboard.com
You're welcome.
Community logo


runboard.com       Sign up (learn about it) | Sign in (lost password?)

Page:  1  2 

 
Buffy1982 Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Purple fan

Registered: 04-2005
Posts: 89
Reply | Quote
Somebody might not agree...


From the U.S. press:

"Bands stoop to desperate measures when they lose singers
By JIM FARBER
Knight Ridder Tribune
When bands lose a musician, it's like losing an arm.
But when a singer departs — either because he or she stormed off in a huff, got thrown out, or, in the worst-case scenario, shook off this mortal coil — it's like losing a head.
Prosthetics can give you a new arm. But how many head transplants have you heard about lately?
Such a daunting task hasn't stopped lots of big-name bands from trying to pull off this ultimate makeover. Currently, Queen, the Doors, INXS and Big Brother are each touring with a replacement singer or auditioning for one.
Those last two bands are getting help from the most up-to-date method possible: reality-show auditions.
Similar attempts to fill the void have met with mixed results over the years. Here's a look at how past and present groups have managed without their most public faces:

[….]

DEEP PURPLE
A host of singers have fronted this long-running metal touchstone. But Ian Gillan remains the great one — by divine right (he played the son of God in the original "Jesus Christ Superstar"). When he left in 1974, they hired the thoroughly awful David Coverdale to mimic him. Coverdale later impersonated Robert Plant in the atrocious Whitesnake, inspiring the Led Zeppelin singer to dub him "David Cover Version," a term that may offer the last word on singer substitutes".

Although I literally adore Ian Gillan this journo sounds like a moron to me. David Coverdale is not awful, he’s never tried to mimic Gillan and Whitesnake are not atrocious. I’m afraid he’s never listened to anything other than Smoke on the water and the JCS soundtrack (mistaking Neeley for Ian…).

5/5/2005, 9:40 Link to this post Send Email to Buffy1982   Send PM to Buffy1982
 
Rahul Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Purple fan

Registered: 09-2003
Posts: 6181
Reply | Quote
Re: Somebody might not agree...


Everyone's entitled to their own opinions, but it does sound like he's relied on common fallacies regarding Coverdale's ability and persona, rather than actually listening to the stuff properly and making up his own mind.

Sounds as if he thinks Whitesnake were formed in 1987 too.



---
Well, the night I was born
Lord, I swear the moon turned a fire red

5/5/2005, 11:17 Link to this post Send Email to Rahul   Send PM to Rahul
 
unchained Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Purple fan

Registered: 09-2003
Posts: 1227
Reply | Quote
Re: Somebody might not agree...


quote:

Rahul wrote:

Sounds as if he thinks Whitesnake were formed in 1987 too.





Thats Americans for you, if it doesn't happen over there it hasn't happened yet.

Bob emoticon

---
A baby Sardine
Saw her first submarine
She was scared and watched through a peephole.

'Oh, come, come, come'
Said the Sardine's mum
'It's only a tin full of people'
5/5/2005, 11:46 Link to this post Send Email to unchained   Send PM to unchained
 
Rezi Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info



Registered: 04-2004
Posts: 16629
Reply | Quote
Re: Somebody might not agree...


That Plant quote is so typical for him. He probably concerns himself 'the unique singer', who influenced everyone from Elvis Presley to Charlie Chaplin.

The man obviously has a serious ego problem. I know no other rock star to bash other musicians on a so regular basis. I guess it's those post-Zeppelin albums he made, which nobody listened to more than once.
5/5/2005, 12:04 Link to this post Send Email to Rezi   Send PM to Rezi
 
Big J Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Purple fan

Registered: 09-2003
Posts: 6073
Reply | Quote
Re: Somebody might not agree...


quote:

Rezi wrote:

That Plant quote is so typical for him. He probably concerns himself 'the unique singer', who influenced everyone from Elvis Presley to Charlie Chaplin.

The man obviously has a serious ego problem. I know no other rock star to bash other musicians on a so regular basis. I guess it's those post-Zeppelin albums he made, which nobody listened to more than once.



Yes, he's always come across as an arrogant sod.



---
Bring back The Opening Salvo!
6/5/2005, 10:25 Link to this post Send Email to Big J   Send PM to Big J
 
Mofo Lives Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Purple fan

Registered: 09-2004
Posts: 421
Reply | Quote
Re: Somebody might not agree...


Yeah Coverdale is quite modest as well.
6/5/2005, 11:49 Link to this post Send Email to Mofo Lives   Send PM to Mofo Lives
 
MrEd45 Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Admin

Registered: 09-2003
Posts: 9983
Reply | Quote
Re: Somebody might not agree...


quote:

Buffy1982 wrote:

a)...this journo sounds like a moron to me.

b) David Coverdale is not awful, he’s never tried to mimic Gillan

c) Whitesnake are not atrocious.

d) I’m afraid he’s never listened to anything other than Smoke on the water and the JCS soundtrack (mistaking Neeley for Ian…).






a) Now, now...don't go insulting the actual morons in the world who aren't morons by choice. emoticon

b) Debatable - though I fall on the "non-awful" side of the coin. Believe me, Coverdale faced - and won over - a highly skeptical Deep Purple fanbase in 1974. The guy had a daunting task ahead of him, and he won the doubters over. It certainly wasn't 100% smooth sailing, by any means.
  As for having a replacement "mimic" Ian Gillan, the only replacement player in Deep Purple whom ever tried to do that - vocally-wise - was Glenn Hughes...but this observation on the part of the jounalist might show that they may have actually heard a MkIII live gig or two...and still couldn't tell there were two people vocalizing for Deep Purple at that time! emoticon

c) Again - debatable. Whitesnake were one of the fimest rock bands from 1977/78 to 1984 or so.

d) I don't understand this...it's one of the few things the jounalist for this article apparently got right! Ian Gillan was the vocalist for the role of Jesus on the "original 'Jesus Christ Superstar'". The movie role and movie soundtrack recording was Ted Neely.

 As just an observation, the parallels between both Plant's + Coverdale's careers - at least their beginnings - are remarkably similar. And I gotta admit, the play on Coverdale's name, "David Coverversion" was hilarious, if not entirely accurate. emoticon

Last edited by MrEd45, 6/5/2005, 14:05


---
" Those who can - do. Those who can't do - teach. Those who can't do or teach - administrate."
- Anon.

" One that will not reason is a bigot. One that cannot reason is an ignoramus. One that dares not reason is a slave." - Anon
6/5/2005, 14:02 Link to this post Send Email to MrEd45   Send PM to MrEd45 Blog
 
Buffy1982 Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Purple fan

Registered: 04-2005
Posts: 89
Reply | Quote
Re: Somebody might not agree...


 emoticon Yeah I was only joking. Since the soundtrack seems to be more popular than the original version I assumed thay guy listened to the soundtrack mistaking it for the original version, just as he has probably mistaken Hughes for Coverdale.
6/5/2005, 15:16 Link to this post Send Email to Buffy1982   Send PM to Buffy1982
 
JSA Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Purple fan

Registered: 09-2003
Posts: 242
Reply | Quote
Re: Somebody might not agree...


I think that Plant's solo stuff was fairly popular. His only problem is that he doesn't shut up when he really should.

As for what this guy wrote, I think that he is fairly close to what many people think. The singer is the most recognizable person in the band from a sound standpoint. Think of the first time you heard 'Down To Earth' and you will get my point. GB wasn't a bad replacement, actually.

Other than the date of Gillan's departure, I think that he was pretty accurate.
8/5/2005, 12:20 Link to this post Send Email to JSA   Send PM to JSA
 
MrEd45 Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Admin

Registered: 09-2003
Posts: 9983
Reply | Quote
Re: Somebody might not agree...


quote:

JSA wrote:

a) As for what this guy wrote, I think that he is fairly close to what many people think.

b) The singer is the most recognizable person in the band from a sound standpoint.






a) I just read Farber's entire article, and the feeling I got was that he's simply opposed to a band replacing the most recognized and/or original vocalist at all, for any reason. Which is fine, if that's his opinion. I just disagree with it, on the whole.
   I got the feeling that one of the main points of his article was to emphasize the times that replacing the vocalist didn't work out...and I disagree with some his examples of that, too! If I'm correct in ascertaining the intent behind Farber's article, then I suppose it wouldn't make sense, from his standpoint, to point out the times that the replacing was successful (see a partial list below). What did surprise me was the omission of what I considered one of the more disastrous replacement vocalist situations in the history of rock music. I refer, of course of course, to Yes replacing Jon Anderson with Trevor Horn. emoticon

Partial List of Successful Vocalist Replacements (in my non-humble opinion, of course of course emoticon ) :

Uriah Heep - David Byron to John Lawton
Deep Purple - Ian Gillan to David Coverdale
Rainbow - Ronnie Dio to Graham Bonnet
Black Sabbath - Ozzy Osbourne to Ronnis Dio to Ian Gillan
AC/DC - Bon Scott to Brian Johnston
Bad Co. - Paul Rodgers to Brian Howe
Doors - Jim Morrison to Ian Astbury
R.E.O. Speedwagon - Terry Luttrell to Kevin Cronin to Mike Murphy to Kevin Cronin
Van Halen - David Lee Roth to Sammy Hagar
Iron Maiden - Paul Di'Anno to Bruce Dickinson
Lynyrd Skynyrd - Ronnie to Johnny VanZant
King Crimson - Mike + Peter Giles to Greg Lake to Gordon Haskell to Boz Burrell to John Wetton
Moody Blues - Denny Laine + Clint Warwick to Justin Hayward + John Lodge


Last edited by MrEd45, 8/5/2005, 19:00


---
" Those who can - do. Those who can't do - teach. Those who can't do or teach - administrate."
- Anon.

" One that will not reason is a bigot. One that cannot reason is an ignoramus. One that dares not reason is a slave." - Anon
8/5/2005, 17:06 Link to this post Send Email to MrEd45   Send PM to MrEd45 Blog
 


Reply

Page:  1  2 





You are not logged in (login)