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...and Janis' backing band.





 Big Brother + The Holding Company?



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...and Janis' backing band.





 Big Brother + The Holding Company?




Yeah, of course she had a couple of others but I´m sure that´s what everyone thought of.
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Hard to argue with the Beatles, for a combination of sales, quality and cultural impact.

Greatest is very subjective - if we are talking sales, Michael Jackson, the Bee Gees etc (I think I'm the only person in their 30s who doesn't own an album by either).

If we are talking cultural impact, then the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Jimi Hendrix, Sex Pistols, Nirvana, Madonna etc are in the mix.

I'd also suggest that we'd need to consider artists who have done something brilliant that has been a quantum leap - Hendrix, Prince, Dylan come to mind.

Consistent high quality output has been demonstrated by dozens of artists, like the Rolling Stones, Beatles, U2, Queen, Springsteen etc. You could probably add Madonna, George Michael on the poppier side.

Beatles get the nod for mentions or close to it in every category.

That being said, I reckon the trashy, disposable music that we love for a year or two defines pop - Frankie Goes To Hollywood, Spandau Ballet, Duran Duran, Pet Shop Boys, Martika (am I dating myself?). Perhaps "greatest" and "pop" are contradictory terms?

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Normally, I would say DP (because that's what I think).

But let's say The Smiths.
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Normally, I would say DP (because that's what I think).

But let's say The Smiths.



Let's say WHAT???? emoticon Rezi, let me guess - you must be british right? emoticon Since I'm sure you're not gay! emoticon
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Normally, I would say DP (because that's what I think).

But let's say The Smiths.



Let's say WHAT???? emoticon Rezi, let me guess - you must be british right? emoticon Since I'm sure you're not gay! emoticon



I'm not British. But a BeeGees fan implying someone's (not) gay? emoticon

Seriously, I've never heard someone to associate The Smiths with being gay. But if someone does, it doesn't bother me. Just like I remember someone posting here that if Rainbow reformed they couldn't play under that name because it refers to homosexuality. Right.

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quote:

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quote:

Rezi wrote:

Normally, I would say DP (because that's what I think).

But let's say The Smiths.



Let's say WHAT???? emoticon Rezi, let me guess - you must be british right? emoticon Since I'm sure you're not gay! emoticon



I'm not British. But a BeeGees fan implying someone's (not) gay? emoticon

Seriously, I've never heard someone to associate The Smiths with being gay. But if someone does, it doesn't bother me. Just like I remember someone posting here that if Rainbow reformed they couldn't play under that name because it refers to homosexuality. Right.



What's exactly gay about Bee Gees? If you mean falcetos - well, I'm sorry but they don't make the band gay. Plenty of examples in the music history. Bee Gees late 70's image was a classic playboy image of the era - white suits, hairy chests, golden chains etc. Quite opposite to gay stuff I guess.

As for Smiths (I don't think they suck by the way, they made some fine stuff though they are WAY overrated by British press) - well Morrisey's gay and it shows in their lyrics A LOT.
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quote:

Rezi wrote:

quote:

TONY MANERO wrote:

quote:

Rezi wrote:

Normally, I would say DP (because that's what I think).

But let's say The Smiths.



Let's say WHAT???? emoticon Rezi, let me guess - you must be british right? emoticon Since I'm sure you're not gay! emoticon



I'm not British. But a BeeGees fan implying someone's (not) gay? emoticon

Seriously, I've never heard someone to associate The Smiths with being gay. But if someone does, it doesn't bother me. Just like I remember someone posting here that if Rainbow reformed they couldn't play under that name because it refers to homosexuality. Right.



What's exactly gay about Bee Gees? If you mean falcetos - well, I'm sorry but they don't make the band gay. Plenty of examples in the music history. Bee Gees late 70's image was a classic playboy image of the era - white suits, hairy chests, golden chains etc. Quite opposite to gay stuff I guess.

As for Smiths (I don't think they suck by the way, they made some fine stuff though they are WAY overrated by British press) - well Morrisey's gay and it shows in their lyrics A LOT.



The whole 70s disco culture had strong homosexual undertones. In fact, it has been argued (don't remember by who) that the macho thing in Saturday Night Fever, the fights and the shags by the protagonists were deliberately put in the film to downplay the gay thing from the American audiences.

As for The Smiths, I've never detected "a lot" of homosexual themes in their lyrics. I would like to hear examples, please. They were not a gay band - they were about Northern England, anti-London, pro-working class (even if that was a romanticised image), anti-royalism (Morrissey was born in Ireland btw) and they played with ambiquities related to nostalgy.

About Morrissey being gay: that is far from clear. He has obviously had fun playing with that theme. For example, his usage of gay iconography was so underlined it both made gay activists mad and seriously questioned his true sexual preference. But even if he is gay, doesn't make The Smiths a gay band.

And finally, even if all of Smiths were gay, it would not matter at all. I really have no issue with homosexuality at all. And it's a serious thing for the people who are gay.

I forgot to make this point:

When I wrote I've never heard anbody associate the Smiths with being gay, I meant that it's not what people think when the band is mentioned.

  


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Its gotta be the Beatles for reasons mentioned above. Popularity and media worship aside, they came up with some really cool stuff that helped inspire many a band.
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I think that would be the Village People emoticon it had Glenn Huges on it emoticon ! Now seriously, it might be obvious but i also go with the Beatles, they did everything a band could do at the time, and opened the doors for modern pop and rock music ! Other bands and artists worth mentioning are Led Zeppelin , Nirvana, Pink Floyd, Jimi Hendrix Experience, Robert Johnson and some others i can´t remember now emoticon

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