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unchained, you are fooling yourself.....they arent deep purple.
they are the ian gillan band with steve morse parodying deep purple and then sometimes adding their own amazing masterpieces like ted the mechanic...o no, wait they arent playing that awful song anymore....

even if blackmore and lord would return it wouldnt be deep purple because gillan, paice and lord lost the touch, it just isnt that good anymore.
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 it just isnt that good anymore.



Well, in that case I'll just jump into my time machine and go back 35 years to when it was that good.

Oh s..t we cannot do that, so perhaps we will have to live in todays world with todays music and todays line up of a band that was initially created to allow different members to come and go as the music moved on. Shame some of the (so called)fans cannot grasp that idea and do the same.

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unchained, it is not about being able to grasp something..

dude, why am i not allowed to say that this band sucks BALLS and it doesnt sound anything like deep purple?
is that against the law?

deep purple died around 1974 and the rest that followed were just parodies.
you can go and listen to this mediocre stuff they release but dont pretend like it is as good as what they did in the early 70s, and say they are deep purple.
call it something else, like "mediocre copy of purple" and then release the american AOR albums, and go on stage raping the deep purple songs.
especially gillan is disrespecting and insulting the name deep purple.

you saying that we need to listen to it because thats all we have .....you must be kidding right?

i only accept quality.

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This is my new lineup.

Gillan
Glover
Airey
Paice
Vai, Schenker, Moore, Satriani, Beck, Montrose, Roth, Malmsteen.....



I don´t think a line-up with 8 guitarists would work out.
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a) why am i not allowed to say that this band sucks BALLS and it doesnt sound anything like deep purple?
is that against the law?

b) deep purple died around 1974

c)...and the rest that followed were just parodies.

d)...you can go and listen to this mediocre stuff they release

e)...dont pretend like it is as good as what they did in the early 70s

f)...and say they are deep purple.

g)...call it something else, like "mediocre copy of purple" and then release the american AOR albums, and go on stage raping the deep purple songs.

h)...especially gillan is disrespecting and insulting the name deep purple.

i)...you saying that we need to listen to it because thats all we have .....you must be kidding right?

j) i only accept quality.








a) Yes, you are allowed to thrust forward that opinion. It just seems that sometimes you're a bit intolerant about people taking exception to that opinion. This is a FanForum that encourages different opinions - pro and con, good and bad, etc.,etc. - about Deep Purple and related topics. All these opinions will probably never be agreed on - but that's what keeps it interesting for most of us.

b) No, they didn't. Perhaps whatever particular positive(?) feelings you had regarding Deep Purple died in 1974...but it really won't make you feel any better trying to make others as evidently miserable about it as you are. emoticon

c) Ironic - that's the one thing that you have correct so far. Even I felt that way maybe a couple of times over the last 3 decades or so - but I didn't let those couple of instances become my predominant way of thinking of the band.

d) Yes, people are quite free to do so - along with a lot of the excellent material that Deep Purple have recorded/released since 1974.

e) Nothing by anybody, anytime, anywhere will ever create music as dramatic, colorful, vibrant, exciting, etc.,etc. as Deep Purple did between 1968 and 1974. Well, Michelangelo never replicared his mastery on another project like painting the Sistine Chapel, did he? This fact - if it is, in fact, a fact emoticon - in no way can detract from his accomplishment in the Sistine Chapel.

f) Well, they are Deep Purple, but if they're not up to the standard(s) that you think the name Deep Purple merits - then that's another opinion that you're free to have and to express here on our FanForum.

g) A semi-rant not even worth addressing again..it's pretty much been addressed in a) through f) in this reply. emoticon

h) This may not be the best rebuttal/comeback/rejoinder for this, but here goes - If anyone has the 'right' to disrespect and insult the name 'Deep Purple'...that anyone could be reasonably expected to be Ian Gillan. He played a major role in building that name and the respect it garnered, so he earned the right to tear it down. I might not agree with Gillan - or anyone else - that chooses to do this, but I have to acknowledge that it's their right to do so.

i) I re-read and re-read and re-read...I still can't find where anyone has said any such thing in this thread. emoticon

j) You ain't alone in that. emoticon Try and remember though - everyone just may have a different standard or opinion as to what constitutes 'quality' to them. I'm assuming - of course - that by 'quality', you mean 'good quality'. emoticon

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1. you can go and listen to this mediocre stuff they release but dont pretend like it is as good as what they did in the early 70s, and say they are deep purple.

2. i only accept quality.
 



1. Why do you feel like telling me what to think about the music I hear?
and by the way, it's not us fans saying Deep Purple are Deep Purple. Deep Purple say Deep Purple are Deep Purple. I believe you'll find yourself quite alone denying that fact.

2. That's fine, but who's to decide what's quality? You have your taste and I have mine.

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..... and go on stage raping the deep purple songs.....

..... especially gillan is disrespecting and insulting the name deep purple.......



I hope I'm a reasonably tolerant person. I try as far as possible to stay out of heated disputes, and look for the funny side wherever possible. I'm not a "big" fan. I cannot boast the big collection of '70s concert teashirts, bootlegs, records, cds - all the stuff that apparently makes a real "fan".


But this sort of thing makes me damned angry.

To insult the current line-up in this manner is hurtful in the extreme.

To put these comments in perspective:
We have a venue here in the UK quite local to me where performers and bands do "come to die". Most can still play reasonably well. They have their niche audiences, who turn up for their annual "let's go and see them, just in case" outing. Good job they do turn out, because sometimes the performers do die before they get back the next time.......

Therefore I hope I do know the difference, between a band really on the way out and the members of this group.

Last November, I saw DP at Wembley rather than at my local venue.

To put it bluntly, people who bang on about how bad they are: You don't know what you are talking about.

They are approaching the end of their careers and I find it quite remarkable they do what they do as well as they do.

Cut them some slack!

It is also galling for anyone new, like I was a little while ago, coming on here to read some of the venom spouted about the band, and individual members. They do NOT deserve it.

Any of them, ever.

POS

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Milan Fahrnholz wrote:

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Randys wrote:
This is my new lineup.

Gillan
Glover
Airey
Paice
Vai, Schenker, Moore, Satriani, Beck, Montrose, Roth, Malmsteen.....



I don´t think a line-up with 8 guitarists would work out.



Thanks Milan!

The thought of this lot on stage made me laugh! A Lot!! emoticon

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They are approaching the end of their careers and I find it quite remarkable they do what they do as well as they do.
 



Totally agree. In fact, I think it speaks for itself when the only way some people are able to bash the current Deep Purple is to measure against their own legendary albums, from the time DP was young and eager to prove their talents.

In such a light, most records are crap, most musicians should have done something else, and most listeners should spend their lives doing something better than listen to crap, since there ain't nothing out there worth listen to anyway.

It's truly a shame, isn't it, that not all musicians do like Hendrix did; make a hndful of great records and then make sure to die from it before ruining their own legend? Yeah, it's a shame! emoticon

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a) To put it bluntly, people who bang on about how bad they are: You don't know what you are talking about.

b) They are approaching the end of their careers and I find it quite remarkable they do what they do as well as they do.

c) Cut them some slack!

d) It is also galling for anyone new, like I was a little while ago, coming on here to read some of the venom spouted about the band, and individual members.

e) They do NOT deserve it.

f) Any of them, ever.

g) very emoticon







a) Careful now, POS, that's as extreme a view - just the opposite extreme - as the one that's put forward that you're disputing. emoticon They think they know what they're talking about and people who hold your view don't. Neither side will likely ever concede to the other's viewpoint, but that doesn't mean either side is inherently right.

b) I can agree with that.

c) That's an individual choice. Some people have higher - or lower - standards they expect to met by Deep Purple. You - or anyone else - who chooses to 'cut them some slack' is perfectly free to do so. Anyone who chooses not to 'cut them some slack' is also perfectly free not to do so.
   I choose to 'cut them some slack' in certain areas, while not cutting them slack in others.

d) I would imagine it can be a bit 'galling' or surprising to newer forum members to see the level and amount of criticism regarding Deep Purple and it's individual members - past + present - that's allowed and tolerated here. I feel that that very fact is one of the major assets that sets our forum apart from the majority 'fan forums' that are out there.
  Just mark it up to that old saying of Ian Paice's being put into action - "I bought it, so I'll bloody well boot it!" emoticon

e) In a lot of people's view(s), they Do[i deserve it at times. Those people and their view(s) are always welcome to be expressed here - I do reccomend that the people expressing them be prepared for intelligent, passionate debate about their view(s), though. emoticon

f) I can't agree with this. See e) above.

g) I understand, believe me.

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