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Dougie did a deceent job with Spotlight Kid but JLT wipes the floor with him anyday. JLT's Spotlight Kid is an immortal hard rock classic while Dougie's just a good try. JLT has huge personality while Dougie is just another eurometal sterile singer, fine technicaly but lacking a style of his own ( a cross between JLT and RJD -isn't it absurd?). He did develop nicely on Cornerstone but he has to do a dozen of classic albums before he is even mentioned in the same sentence as the hard rock giants Joe Lynn Turner, Graham Bonnet or Ronnie James Dio.
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....thats rediculous,for one,Doogie has been the real deal all along,you just might not be ware of that,unless of course you are familiar with his work prior to SIUA,and contrary to what you and someone else here seems to think,Doogie himself has talked about how Bonnett is probably the singer he resembles best of the three Rainbow singers,yes he can handle ANYTHING Turner,and most Dio,but I feel Bonnett's range tops the other two myself,if just slightly when it comes to Dio,but Doogie clearly blows Turner away,when it comes to sheer power,and talent if you ask me,besides,who'd want Turner's girly boy personality anyway???? emoticon
Don't you know the Scott's have great personality?
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1. Unfortunately I never heard Dougie's work prior to Rainbow.
2. Dougie's voice sounds nothing like Bonnet to begin with. Half od SIUA sounds like second rate Turner, another one like a cheesy parody on Dio.
3. I'm not talking about image, Micstand, though Dougie's image in Rainbow was "just your average european heavy metal singer". I'm talking about having a musical personality. And while JLT is one of the finest singers ever to walk the Earth Dougie is still second league (good as he is), extremely overrated by Purple family fans who are desperately hungry for new names and voices to idolize.
4. What's girly about JLT's image? Ever saw Street of Dreams video? Joe's just a handsome italian extremely popular with girls back in the day. Nothing gay about it.
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 There's really no need to give props to a favorite by slagging another's favorite, guys. It is entertaining as hell, though! emoticon
 Also a 1000 points* to you, RJM, for diagnosing your affliction so concisely in point #3 of your last post. emoticon / emoticon


*Like "Who's Line Is It Anyway", this is a game where the points don't mean anything. emoticon

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1. Unfortunately I never heard Dougie's work prior to Rainbow.
2. Dougie's voice sounds nothing like Bonnet to begin with. Half od SIUA sounds like second rate Turner, another one like a cheesy parody on Dio.
3. I'm not talking about image, Micstand, though Dougie's image in Rainbow was "just your average european heavy metal singer". I'm talking about having a musical personality. And while JLT is one of the finest singers ever to walk the Earth Dougie is still second league (good as he is), extremely overrated by Purple family fans who are desperately hungry for new names and voices to idolize.
4. What's girly about JLT's image? Ever saw Street of Dreams video? Joe's just a handsome italian extremely popular with girls back in the day. Nothing gay about it.



1) His past work was, like most Ritchie's 'discoveries' basically average, i.e. you'd never have heard of it, or him, if Ritchie hadn't had him in Rainbow. LIke most of the Rainbow recruits, they'd be nowhere today without their Rainbow involvment. Indeed some of them are nowhere today, even despite their initial good break!
2)Nobody sounds like Bonnet, but Doogie is a great singer for sure.
3)I think Doogie is one of the better European HArd Rock vocalists, his time has yet to really come, and it might, if he does the right things and avoids playing in too many "buck spinning tribute" shows.
4) I have never understood the huge problem so many people seem to have with JLT. TO my ears he's another great singer. His attitude might be agressive, American, New York etc but so what, the guy CAN really sing. Certian people here will pretend that image isn't important except when THEY want to use it to slag someone off!! It's like seeing all the faces of the Town Clock, they never all agree! JLT seemed appropriate for the time he was in Rainbow and his image suited the route the band was following.

One things for sure, JLT looked a whole lot more savory, in terms of looking fit, healthy, presentable and actually interested in his job as a front man, than Ian GIllan did at the time, or perhaps most times. Maybe it's because JLT didn't see life through the bottom of a bottle every day and was actually there to prove something. Unfortunately there is not a hope in hell of persuading the masses here that JLT was ever any good, they just don't want to hear it or know it, or even listen long enough to find out.

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JLT is Italian? emoticon[latin]
Sorry guys,but you might have to ask Doogie(proper spelling)himself on this matter,what I said he said,he did say,about covering the three and Bonnett being the closest he got,to the three Rainbow singers.
I've met JLT once,and didn't have the time to have anywhere near as much conversation with him as I did Doogie,but I was in the same room with him,long enough to pick up on his femmy antics.(Yngwie's clan)
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RJM,if I read correctly,you did say "personality" and nothing about image in your first post.
Btw,there isn't much official video material within the confines of the Purple family,that I have not seen,heard,and own.
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BTN,I didn't read your whole post,but I got to the part where you went on about the various members of Rainbow,and how most of them would be nowhere today,had Ritchie not recruited them,well,the person who comes to mind first here,is one of the least well known Rainbow members,and thats Chuck Burgi,he'd been around before Ritchie picked him up,maybe the artists he worked with aren't in your tatse range though,but that doesn't mean you're right about this.
Ritchie was huge on no names,for one reason,and one reason only,and thats control of everything from press,to money.
As far as Doogie not having gotten around to your ears before Rainbow,he did mine,I doubt you realise his age,but he's up there.
As far as singers and their image is concerned,to each their bloody own,I'd rather see a real honest approach,than a make up and spandex one,now that I've gone back and read your whole post, emoticon "JLT,not seeing life through the bottom of a bottle",well,he was drinking those little girly drinks when I saw him,fu fu's I call em,and not to mention Ritchie formely mentioning he was a drug addict,and it annoyed him by 1983,yes,cocaine to be specific,Ritchie said he would take cocaine,then run around backstage prancing and dancing,then do push ups on the side of the stage,for the opening acts to clearly see,now I don't want to slag JLT too much,cos I don't care enough for him to get that serious,and I'm glad he's recovered from the drugs,through much painstaking rehabilitation,and is now a free man,more power to the girl!(oops) emoticon
Mr.Ed has that function cornered,as we all know.
Try and reply with some attention paid to the subject,if you do reply to this at all,no need to go on about me like you do,and no none of the usual online name calling,please.
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JLT's Spotlight Kid is an immortal hard rock classic




No, it's basically a throwaway track with great keyboard and guitar solos in it. Just like Death Alley Driver.
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Sorry guys,but you might have to ask Doogie(proper spelling)himself on this matter,what I said he said,he did say,about covering the three and Bonnett being the closest he got,to the three Rainbow singers.



Au contraire, Doogie is on record as saying that Bonnet was nigh impossible to emulate, hence the meagre amount of Bonnet-era material in the SIUA tour sets. Check Roys's "Rainbow Rising" book for the quotes. Also, Doogie's reply to my question in the Q&A Section


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GilliansMIcStand: You wrote " BTN,I didn't read your whole post", these were your exact words. This is typically the foundation for your diatribe that followed.

So let if be known, far and wide,across the kingdom of the DP Forum and beyond to those that have ears to hear or eyes to read, GilliansMicSTand, DOESN'T actually bother to read your posts before he commences his pontification on your content. How absolutely splendid! Nice one mate, Go yourself, Demonstrate yer native brilliance yet again.

When are you going to grow up Gillian and find someone else to bug ? By now you must be in your what 40's or 50's maybe even older and still you're as petty as the average 3 year old!

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