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Re: Steve bows out for good :(


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Randys
I don't think Steve said that. He respects Gillan and the rest.



"I know Simon has the gig nailed already, but I’m now handing over the keys to the vault which holds the secret of how Ritchie’s “Smoke on the Water” intro was recorded. I guess you have to jiggle the key just right because I never got it open.”
– Steve Morse - "

Hard to deny that



He could be speaking to live performances...

Also who knows we may see Steve recording parts for the next DP album, if indeed there is one. Who knows, they may bring in Ritchie for a song too. I think making Simon or someone else a full-fledged member with writing credits is unlikely given their age. If anything DP may not announce a new permanent guitarist out of respect for Steve. Unchartered waters remain ahead.



I must say, that I liked the idea which I read about in facebook group. Deep Purple album with various guesting guitarists. Let´s say - Simon, Steve Vai, Joe Satriani (basically look at Gillan´s Inn), maybe even Steve might find bit of his time for little work in his home studio for song or a little solo. And as thank you tribute - little bonus cover - The Aviator. I cant listen that song now without getting teary, that song is Steve personified.
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I agree with him... starts @ 47:48.

https://youtu.be/DnwgH_6lzRo

Joe Satriani!
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Actually - I liked the idea which was described by my good friend Hristo. I liked it because slightly different reasons than he himself, but I think it could be the best way how to write final chapter of this loooong 53+ years long book.

Mainly:
Deep Purple can continue as quartet without full-time guitarist. Obviously - we have solved live setting with Simon McBride. Question is "new album" and "new lineup". I think we dont need new lineup to have new album. Purely from act of respect to Steve - just quite and simple, do not replace him. Studio setting for one (final) album can be done in very open minded setting with people related and close to todays Deep Purple.
It should not be 10 or 11 songs with 10 or 11 guitarists, quite opposite. It can be studio album done with two or three guitarists and in the best possible scenario - even Steve could be among them for playing a solo for one song (recorded from home studio). My main point of suggestion is basically "opposite" of When A Blind Man Cries lyrics.... "if you´re leaving.... close the door..." - I´m saying, please let the door open and dont search or name a "permanent" full-time member. I am sure that among famous guitarists "close" in Deep Purple circle (around IG, Don, Roger or IP) there are for sure people who are FRIENDS they can ENJOY to work with (because that´s crucial point - enjoy the collab). I dont know, but I´m still searching way how to close it with dignity, respect in enjoyable way - rather than beginning of "new" era and I cannot imagine more fitting way... and promise of Steve being a final guitar player would be fullfilled.
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Concidering the way they've been writing together, I cannot imagine them using more than one guitarist. As they have jam session to develop new ideas, they'd have to have seperate writing sessions with different guitarists and I don't think that's likely.

I think it's going to be very simple and unglamorous as it's always been with Deep Purple. Before they start touring again in autumn, they'll announce that Simon has joined the band. Next year they'll write and record an album with Simon and tour afterwards.
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Concidering the way they've been writing together, I cannot imagine them using more than one guitarist. As they have jam session to develop new ideas, they'd have to have seperate writing sessions with different guitarists and I don't think that's likely.

I think it's going to be very simple and unglamorous as it's always been with Deep Purple. Before they start touring again in autumn, they'll announce that Simon has joined the band. Next year they'll write and record an album with Simon and tour afterwards.



I am afraid that process of their songwritting is the smallest problem to be honest. All you need is willing friendly guitar player who would find 5 days for writing session with you and 2 or 3 more days for recording in Canada. emoticon

I made one huge mistake and I think I am not alone in this. We took their "songwriting team" for almost granted. We know that their system worked for them - and we know that especially with Ezrin, it worked quite fast and efective. Roger´s words from Now What?! era comes to my mind - Deep Purple is "whatever we do actually". But as far as I know, lot of things were based on "balance" between Steve & Don or Don & Steve and for records under Ezrin production, Don took a slightly bigger role in overall sound. When this happened with Steve as "experienced guy" and Don in position of "new guy in band" - what is going to happen with Simon - who is even more coming from Don´s solo band... We know Simon can compose - but is he ready for Deep Purple´s songwriting process? I mean - isnt it going to become Don Airey´s Deep Purple - because with Steve it did NOT happen, but Don´s role became MUCH larger than Jons role was on Purpendicular and Abandon. I actually think that "two / three" guitar players could help with this, because actually what I think is important now is going to be role of Roger and then IG as songwriting team. We will see, there is tons of questions in the air and for now - zero answers.

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Sorry by mistake I qoted my own comment - I wanted to click on edit emoticon

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Do you think a hired guitarist who's just there for a song or two will be an effectice counterpart for Don Airey? I doubt that. These guitar players would have no possibility to veto anything whereas Don could do that everytime, just because he is in the band.

As you said, Steve and Don were a great songwriting team because they trusted each other. Why have 5 guitarists for an album that might not get on well with Don? We know that Simon and Don are a good team, so why bring in anyone else really...

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What your saying is just like situation of Black Sabbath and the Who?

When Bill Ward refuses to join for the album "13". They hired Brad Wilk as only guest musician. Black Sabbath at that time is only Ozzy, Tony and Geezer with no official drummer.

The Who is officially consists of Roger Daltrey and Pete Townshend only, but their albums "Endless Wires" and "Who", they hire guest musicians.

Choose your guitarist for the studio only (recording & writing only). emoticon emoticon emoticon

Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Eric Johnson, Michael Schenker, Yngwie Malmsteen, Paul Gilbert, Doug Aldrich, Uli Jon Roth, John Petrucci, Robin Trower, Guthrie Govan....and many more.

I don't think Ian Gillan will agree, because Deep Purple is now the IAN GILLAN BAND and without the legendary influential virtuoso guitarist, a talented songwriter composer STEVE MORSE, it's DP with a young kid guitarist.

But that's just me. emoticon
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What your saying is just like situation of Black Sabbath and the Who?




Yeah exactly and these musicians are there to play and not to write. Brad Wilk didn't write a note for 13 and it's the same with the backing band for the Who, except for Townshend's brother who wrote one song for the last album.

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I don't think Ian Gillan will agree, because Deep Purple is now the IAN GILLAN BAND and without the legendary influential virtuoso guitarist, a talented songwriter composer STEVE MORSE, it's DP with a young kid guitarist.




I'd somehow get it if you said Deep Purple now was the DON AIREY BAND now but why should it be the Ian Gillan Band? I always thought that was nonsense although it has been said 1,000,000 times since Ritchie left. According to the way they write, Gillan is not the band leader at all. He writes the lyrics and the vocal melodies, sometimes together with Roger, that's his contribution and nothing more. Why should that change now and how does Simon instead of Steve increase his position?

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If you are wanting a "guest" songwriter then I'd opt for Steve Morris.
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