15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore! https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/t19622 Runboard| 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore! en-us Thu, 28 Mar 2024 12:35:53 +0000 Thu, 28 Mar 2024 12:35:53 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520402,from=rss#post520402https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520402,from=rss#post520402Ok, its me again. I suggested Mandrake Root many years ago. Its not a good reason not to do it saying people dont know it so well. Loads of people were not familiair with BloodSucker, Pictures Of Home, WABC, TBRO, Ted.Fools anybody? Even Fireball was for as lot of people a newbie because they only knew made In Japan where it wasnt played. I just listened the whole show through they did recently, I picked it up on guitars 101. Most people probably know I m not the biggest fan of Steve s playing, most particularly the solos which are for 25 years the same now and out of place. Maybe because I passed on the DP boots for a while this one seemed ok. Gillan wasnt as bad as I expected, though many pathetic moments still occurred. My 2 extra cents for the encores: Bird Has Flown, Ted, Cascades, Hey Cisco, Lucille. RatBatBlue, TBRO, Sun goes down, dead or alive. Did they already ditch that dragging whining attempt to copy Gary Moore? Oh darn,..... https://www.guitars101.com/forums/f145/deep-purple-2019-09-08-san-francisco-ca-flac-aud-16bit-44khz-698239.html nondisclosed_email@example.com (purpelaar)Mon, 09 Dec 2019 21:22:21 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520034,from=rss#post520034https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520034,from=rss#post520034 Or, possibly, So What ?nondisclosed_email@example.com (VleeMouse)Wed, 09 Oct 2019 23:18:38 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520033,from=rss#post520033https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520033,from=rss#post520033quote:fdr wrote: t still it leaves me with a sense of "what if". that could be a name for the new album nondisclosed_email@example.com (lightintheblack0)Wed, 09 Oct 2019 18:43:37 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520032,from=rss#post520032https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520032,from=rss#post520032The point is also, I think, how they want to be perceived by the public, which kind of show they offer to promoters when they're booked for a gig, and for that which kind of band they want to be. As it is, despite what they may say in interviews, they sell the image of a "classic rock" band, so that audiences and promoters perfectly know in advance what they are getting with them, like going to see a musical or a piece of theatre . They don't even try to "educate" their audience, to open their ears to different arrangements, different material, rotating set lists. It's their choice, of course and I'll enjoy their future live shows nonetheless like I enjoyed the previous ones but still it leaves me with a sense of "what if".nondisclosed_email@example.com (fdr)Wed, 09 Oct 2019 13:41:26 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520030,from=rss#post520030https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520030,from=rss#post520030The last song should always be "Smoke". I remember a concert in 1994 when hundreds of people left the building singing "Smoke on the water, fire in the sky". Even in the streets you could hear them sing afterwards. The encore should open with Hey Cisco and Hell to pay imho.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Friedhelm)Wed, 09 Oct 2019 13:32:28 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520029,from=rss#post520029https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520029,from=rss#post520029I don't see the point in changig it every night, I'd be happy with anything different really. Ian Paice once said about rotating a number of songs, that they tried it but soon found one song working better than the other which lead them to decide on one specific song. I can understand that as I made the same experience with the bands I played in. "An interesting reflection. To some Mandrake Root (especially live) is one of the shining classics, to others it is an irrelevant obscurity !" I'm sure that the average fan at a concert doesn't know Mandrake Root! It wasn't on In Rock or Machine Head, and certainly not on Made in Japan, it also was no single hit. It's a rarity, not a classic. nondisclosed_email@example.com (UncommonMan)Wed, 09 Oct 2019 11:56:24 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520027,from=rss#post520027https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520027,from=rss#post520027Why can't they change the encore every night/every other night/every week? The encore doesn't need to be set in stone, many bands change the encore every night. To have the same encore every night for 15 years (apart from a few nights at the beginning of ROTD tour) is entering AC/DC territory.nondisclosed_email@example.com (leelyt)Wed, 09 Oct 2019 07:32:38 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520026,from=rss#post520026https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520026,from=rss#post520026Mandrake Root would be great, but as I said, the end of a concert is the time for the classics and despite being annoyed by the way the last hour of the set is designed, the people usually go crazy, because they know all the songs. If they changed it, they'd take well-known songs and Mandrake Root isn't really. An interesting reflection. To some Mandrake Root (especially live) is one of the shining classics, to others it is an irrelevant obscurity !nondisclosed_email@example.com (VleeMouse)Tue, 08 Oct 2019 22:25:46 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520025,from=rss#post520025https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520025,from=rss#post520025quote:UncommonMan wrote: I know that a few don't agree, but Gillan could probably sing most Mk II songs decently if they'd change the keys a bit. (...) Mandrake Root would be great Mandrake Root is in E minor. It gets a lot of its punch from the deep E string on the guitar. If this song would get transposed, this punch would get lost or Steve would have to detune his guitar which imho would make sound it strange. I have my reasons why I'm against changing keys. For me it's not all about Gillan, Gillan, Gillan. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Witchy Nightmare)Tue, 08 Oct 2019 16:58:06 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520024,from=rss#post520024https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520024,from=rss#post520024Mandrake Root is a great idea!! Blackmore/Lord had some amazingly long versions, never boring!! By the way, the version of Speed King from the 1993 Stuttgart show is, to my ears, fantastic. The interplay between Blackmore and Lord shows why they were 2 of the greatest musicians of all time!!nondisclosed_email@example.com (doggone)Tue, 08 Oct 2019 16:45:06 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520023,from=rss#post520023https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520023,from=rss#post520023quote:fdr wrote: quote:doggone wrote: I always thought MK Morse/Lord did a great version of this. Their version on Total Abandon is a highlight! Yes, with Lord the solo section was still great, with Airey it would be probably a little less so. With Ritchie it used to be of course a highlight every night. I think that another lost classic that could be revisited as an encore is Mandrake Root: I think Ian could still sing it decently, without the high screams obviously. i agree guys nondisclosed_email@example.com (lightintheblack0)Tue, 08 Oct 2019 15:48:25 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520022,from=rss#post520022https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520022,from=rss#post520022quote:UncommonMan wrote: I know that a few don't agree, but Gillan could probably sing most Mk II songs decently if they'd change the keys a bit. Nearly every other band does that, sometimes for every new tour, but Purple haven't done this - except for Perfect Strangers, Knockin' and Woman From Tokyo - so far. Mandrake Root would be great, but as I said, the end of a concert is the time for the classics and despite being annoyed by the way the last hour of the set is designed, the people usually go crazy, because they know all the songs. If they changed it, they'd take well-known songs and Mandrake Root isn't really. Gillan cant do justice to the classics anymore but with Speed King it would be the instrumental brilliance of the band that would carry it and SM,DA,Rog and Paicey are still very strong players. nondisclosed_email@example.com (lightintheblack0)Tue, 08 Oct 2019 15:46:29 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520021,from=rss#post520021https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520021,from=rss#post520021I know that a few don't agree, but Gillan could probably sing most Mk II songs decently if they'd change the keys a bit. Nearly every other band does that, sometimes for every new tour, but Purple haven't done this - except for Perfect Strangers, Knockin' and Woman From Tokyo - so far. Mandrake Root would be great, but as I said, the end of a concert is the time for the classics and despite being annoyed by the way the last hour of the set is designed, the people usually go crazy, because they know all the songs. If they changed it, they'd take well-known songs and Mandrake Root isn't really.nondisclosed_email@example.com (UncommonMan)Tue, 08 Oct 2019 14:08:23 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520019,from=rss#post520019https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520019,from=rss#post520019quote:doggone wrote: I always thought MK Morse/Lord did a great version of this. Their version on Total Abandon is a highlight! Yes, with Lord the solo section was still great, with Airey it would be probably a little less so. With Ritchie it used to be of course a highlight every night. I think that another lost classic that could be revisited as an encore is Mandrake Root: I think Ian could still sing it decently, without the high screams obviously.nondisclosed_email@example.com (fdr)Tue, 08 Oct 2019 12:54:18 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520018,from=rss#post520018https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520018,from=rss#post520018I always thought MK Morse/Lord did a great version of this. Their version on Total Abandon is a highlight!nondisclosed_email@example.com (doggone)Mon, 07 Oct 2019 20:51:40 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520016,from=rss#post520016https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520016,from=rss#post520016An extended Speed King would be a great way to finish a show IMHOnondisclosed_email@example.com (lightintheblack0)Mon, 07 Oct 2019 18:04:37 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520014,from=rss#post520014https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520014,from=rss#post520014Cascades is a great choise! And in my dreams.. Dealer.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Concrete god)Mon, 07 Oct 2019 17:09:03 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520013,from=rss#post520013https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520013,from=rss#post520013quote:doggone wrote: House of Pain and Bird has Flown(Album Version). Good idea. Especially as it doesn't include Pictures Of Home. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Witchy Nightmare)Mon, 07 Oct 2019 16:39:28 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520012,from=rss#post520012https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520012,from=rss#post520012quote:doggone wrote: Good idea. Cascades: I"m Not Your Lover would also be a great opening song. The instrumental part of 1st movement is just plain brilliant! The band really hit a groove! And with extended soloing could be a useful breather for Big Ian before the big finale. nondisclosed_email@example.com (fdr)Mon, 07 Oct 2019 15:23:06 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520011,from=rss#post520011https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520011,from=rss#post520011Good idea. Cascades: I"m Not Your Lover would also be a great opening song. The instrumental part of 1st movement is just plain brilliant! The band really hit a groove!nondisclosed_email@example.com (doggone)Mon, 07 Oct 2019 14:27:07 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520009,from=rss#post520009https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520009,from=rss#post520009quote:doggone wrote: House of Pain and Bird has Flown(Album Version). Good choices! I'd love to see them revisit the band part of the Concerto first part (instrumental) and then Cascades: I'm not your lover.nondisclosed_email@example.com (fdr)Mon, 07 Oct 2019 13:29:52 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520007,from=rss#post520007https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520007,from=rss#post520007House of Pain and Bird has Flown(Album Version).nondisclosed_email@example.com (doggone)Mon, 07 Oct 2019 09:41:07 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520003,from=rss#post520003https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520003,from=rss#post520003quote:lightintheblack0 wrote: quote:ptr wrote: quote:Witchy Nightmare wrote: Indeed it's an interesting question what's more boring: getting the same encores for 15 years or the same forum debates for 15 years. I have to say that reading "Mk2 tribute act" crap is really already annoying for very long time. sometimes the truth is hard to take and not what one wants to hear ,but it doesnt make it any less truthful. your defence of the tribute act and especially Ian Gillan has also been annoying for a long time too. You still have obvious issue with making a difference between opinion and fact. nondisclosed_email@example.com (ptr)Sun, 06 Oct 2019 20:55:41 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520002,from=rss#post520002https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520002,from=rss#post520002quote:ptr wrote: quote:Witchy Nightmare wrote: Indeed it's an interesting question what's more boring: getting the same encores for 15 years or the same forum debates for 15 years. I have to say that reading "Mk2 tribute act" crap is really already annoying for very long time. sometimes the truth is hard to take and not what one wants to hear ,but it doesnt make it any less truthful. your defence of the tribute act and especially Ian Gillan has also been annoying for a long time too. nondisclosed_email@example.com (lightintheblack0)Sun, 06 Oct 2019 20:48:31 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520001,from=rss#post520001https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520001,from=rss#post520001quote:UncommonMan wrote: Couldn't agree more, Black Night as the closing number is fine for me, but I'm bored to death by Hush. At least when I'm at home reading that it's still in the set. I always enjoy it live just as I like Space Truckin and Smoke live, but not from the distance. Well, Black night is fine but in honesty, as a final number, I always feel the set lacks a final killer punch to close the night with no jams, no singalong, just a final tight killer tune. Of course, such a number is Highway star.nondisclosed_email@example.com (fdr)Sun, 06 Oct 2019 20:39:35 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520000,from=rss#post520000https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p520000,from=rss#post520000quote:lightintheblack0 wrote: quote:fdr wrote: And there goes another thread derailed by lightintheblack to the same old same old tirade about how he liked them til 1998 but now Maiden are better...zzz. I have a question if you want to stay in this particular thread: which two songs would you choose to replace Hushblacknight for the next shows. Otherwise open a specific thread to discuss the merits of Maiden compared to the touring DP band. oh dear here comes the thread police you know what is boring though discussing the monotonous encores of a touring band of a once truly great rock act . Don't post here = easy. Open your own thread = not boring.nondisclosed_email@example.com (fdr)Sun, 06 Oct 2019 20:37:05 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p519998,from=rss#post519998https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p519998,from=rss#post519998Couldn't agree more, Black Night as the closing number is fine for me, but I'm bored to death by Hush. At least when I'm at home reading that it's still in the set. I always enjoy it live just as I like Space Truckin and Smoke live, but not from the distance. nondisclosed_email@example.com (UncommonMan)Sun, 06 Oct 2019 20:08:58 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p519997,from=rss#post519997https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p519997,from=rss#post519997quote:Witchy Nightmare wrote: Indeed it's an interesting question what's more boring: getting the same encores for 15 years or the same forum debates for 15 years. I have to say that reading "Mk2 tribute act" crap is really already annoying for very long time. BTW - for me, Hush is the problem of the encore. I can accept Black Night as the last song, but I´d change Hush for nearly anything - Maybe I´m Leo, Battle Rages On, Pictures Of Home… It´s Hush which should have been left out long time ago. nondisclosed_email@example.com (ptr)Sun, 06 Oct 2019 20:02:18 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p519996,from=rss#post519996https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p519996,from=rss#post519996quote:Witchy Nightmare wrote: Indeed it's an interesting question what's more boring: getting the same encores for 15 years or the same forum debates for 15 years. well ive only been here for the last 13 years so you cant blame me for all of it nondisclosed_email@example.com (lightintheblack0)Sun, 06 Oct 2019 18:03:46 +0000 Re: 15 years of Hushblacknight as the encore!https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p519994,from=rss#post519994https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p519994,from=rss#post519994Indeed it's an interesting question what's more boring: getting the same encores for 15 years or the same forum debates for 15 years. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Witchy Nightmare)Sun, 06 Oct 2019 17:08:28 +0000