lightintheblack0
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quote: lightintheblack0 wrote:
BTW Tommy Aldridge is an absolute drumming monster ive never understood the hard time he gets on this forum at times?I know he doesnt swing like Paicey and isn't the type of drummer for the Moody Marsden version of the band(neither was Cozy ) but he is the perfect drummer for the post 87 Whitesnake.
Because he has no subtlety or "groove" in his playing.
I'm not sure those qualities are required of post 1987 WS drummer John? DC certainly doesn't seem to think so.
Thats exactly my point DH ,Whitesnake haven't required the Paicey type drumming for over 30 years !
What they do have is the ideal drummer for the type of band they have been for over 30 years.In fact the change of style kinda started with Slide It In when they brought in Cozy which is 35 years ago!!
I understand those who prefer Moody Marsden"classic" Whitesnake over the 87 till present band ,but to slate the drummer because he doesnt fit the "classic" era material(which they seldom play anyway) is just bizarre?
Personally i like both eras guess im lucky
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3/6/2019, 16:32
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I listened to Donnington live on Radio 1 in 1990 and the sound on this release is quite a bit different from what I heard back then. DC sounded as if 'he was gargling with razor blades' was one of the reviews I remember reading. I was very disappointed.I still listened to it a fair bit - being a teenage kid who loved DC and his music.
But it was the gig that I realised DC's voice was shot and it was a massive disappointment. Thunder opened and sounded so much better. DC just rolled out the tour for the only UK gig playing stuff like Cheap and Nasty and Kittens got Claws which were lost on the crowd. Even then he had a rich back catalogue to roll out a Burn or Walking in the Shadow of the Blues to make it a little bit more bespoke.
I have watched it since & its listenable, but a bit like the Forevermore album, not one I plan on returning to very often.
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Kinski
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neither did Cozy
Cozy had plenty of feel, swing, and subtlety, just not so much during his short tenure in Whitesnake. His work with Jeff Beck, ELP, solo, and even some of his work with Rainbow proves that. He was light years beyond the all-out bashing Aldridge limits himself to.
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3/6/2019, 23:30
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quote: lightintheblack0 wrote:
neither did Cozy
Cozy had plenty of feel, swing, and subtlety, just not so much during his short tenure in Whitesnake. His work with Jeff Beck, ELP, solo, and even some of his work with Rainbow proves that. He was light years beyond the all-out bashing Aldridge limits himself to.
Thats a good point and I agree. He was a great drummer, although I preferred Paice and he is light years ahead of Tommy, who is a HM drummer to his core.
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4/6/2019, 10:03
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I listened to Donnington live on Radio 1 in 1990 and the sound on this release is quite a bit different from what I heard back then. DC sounded as if 'he was gargling with razor blades' was one of the reviews I remember reading. I was very disappointed.I still listened to it a fair bit - being a teenage kid who loved DC and his music.
But it was the gig that I realised DC's voice was shot and it was a massive disappointment. Thunder opened and sounded so much better. DC just rolled out the tour for the only UK gig playing stuff like Cheap and Nasty and Kittens got Claws which were lost on the crowd. Even then he had a rich back catalogue to roll out a Burn or Walking in the Shadow of the Blues to make it a little bit more bespoke.
I have watched it since & its listenable, but a bit like the Forevermore album, not one I plan on returning to very often.
I was at the show and I agree. It was very disappointing and Coverdale did promise to delve into the back catalogue for the show and he didn't. A missed opportunity and a rough performance. Thunder stole the day, even from Aerosmith who had Page with them.
I do like a lot of Forevermore though. :-)
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4/6/2019, 10:06
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neither did Cozy
Cozy had plenty of feel, swing, and subtlety, just not so much during his short tenure in Whitesnake. His work with Jeff Beck, ELP, solo, and even some of his work with Rainbow proves that. He was light years beyond the all-out bashing Aldridge limits himself to.
^ ^ ^ this
Hitting something very hard and being able to do so repeatedly over a long time isn't the measure of a good drummer for me. Aldridge is obviously dependable and will turn in a performance, but doesn't do it for me at all.
--- Video clips from various gigs -> http://youtube.com/weissheim
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Among all WS drumers (all of them were good) I liked Tommy the least. But I think what he did on Flesh and blood is just excellent. It looks to me unthinkable doing it other way .
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4/6/2019, 16:24
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Hmm Ok then judging by all the recent posts on TA it seems that i personally, all of his fans ,all of the people who attend his clinics and whom he teaches ,and of course all of the rock legends that have hired TA over the last 50 years are completely wrong and he is in fact not a great and highly influential drummer but he is indeed a sh1t drummer who just bashes away as hard as he can ??
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4/6/2019, 16:51
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I listened to Donnington live on Radio 1 in 1990 and the sound on this release is quite a bit different from what I heard back then. DC sounded as if 'he was gargling with razor blades' was one of the reviews I remember reading. I was very disappointed.I still listened to it a fair bit - being a teenage kid who loved DC and his music.
But it was the gig that I realised DC's voice was shot and it was a massive disappointment. Thunder opened and sounded so much better. DC just rolled out the tour for the only UK gig playing stuff like Cheap and Nasty and Kittens got Claws which were lost on the crowd. Even then he had a rich back catalogue to roll out a Burn or Walking in the Shadow of the Blues to make it a little bit more bespoke.
I have watched it since & its listenable, but a bit like the Forevermore album, not one I plan on returning to very often.
I was at the show and I agree. It was very disappointing and Coverdale did promise to delve into the back catalogue for the show and he didn't. A missed opportunity and a rough performance. Thunder stole the day, even from Aerosmith who had Page with them.
I do like a lot of Forevermore though. :-)
I heard the show live on the BBC as well and yes i remember thinking how rough DC sounded, but the subsequent live releases have obviously been doctored somewhat and he sounds not great but generally fine.BTW Forevermore is a very good album IMHO.
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4/6/2019, 16:55
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Re: Slip of the tongue deluxe - Tokyo footage
Tommy Aldridge is a monster drummer, I also saw him with Thin Lizzy and other situations and he's great but I agree that in Whitesnake I find him quite uninspiring. Without going back to Paicey or Cozy, I preferred Brian Tichy in the band.
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