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Purple ,Zeppelin and Sabbath
Now that at long last DP have finally been inducted alongside the other members of the BIG 3 who do we think during their peak periods are/were
1. The best live band
2. Will have the longest lasting legacy
3. Released the best albums
4. wrote the best songs
5. had the best instrumentalists
6. Had the best vocalist
my thoughts
1.Deep Purple /Zeppelin can't decide both were stunning live bands at least until the drugs kicked in ,Sabbath weren't so great live at times.
2.Led Zeppelin(no doubt that they are by far the BIGGEST of them all)
3.Sabbath(Sabbaths first 6 albums were superb and all of a very high standard, Purple and Zeppelin released some awesome material too but standards varied.
4.Led Zeppelin(Zeppelin were better composers than the other 2 IMHO Sabbaths compositions were pretty simple and straghtforward as were DPs but DP elevated the material live.
5.Deep Purple 69-75(all 3 had awesome musicians but Blackmore and Lord were untouchable IMHO)
6.Deep Purple(Gillan and Coverdale, though Plant was awesome too, and Ozzy suited Sabbath as well)
I love all 3 bands my favourite varies with my mood.
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15/5/2016, 15:48
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Re: Purple ,Zeppelin and Sabbath
Purple.
I guess Zep, this far anyway.
For me Purple but all three have magic albums.
I guess Zep again, more variation there.
Purple without doubt.
Purple, as you say Gillan and Coverdale.
Love all three too, they are my all time faves. Probably because they appeared at the right moment for me. And were simply the most awesome.
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15/5/2016, 17:31
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Re: Purple ,Zeppelin and Sabbath
quote: lightintheblack0 wrote:
Now that at long last DP have finally been inducted alongside the other members of the BIG 3 who do we think during their peak periods are/were
1. The best live band
2. Will have the longest lasting legacy
3. Released the best albums
4. wrote the best songs
5. had the best instrumentalists
6. Had the best vocalist
my thoughts
1.Deep Purple /Zeppelin can't decide both were stunning live bands at least until the drugs kicked in ,Sabbath weren't so great live at times.
2.Led Zeppelin(no doubt that they are by far the BIGGEST of them all)
3.Sabbath(Sabbaths first 6 albums were superb and all of a very high standard, Purple and Zeppelin released some awesome material too but standards varied.
4.Led Zeppelin(Zeppelin were better composers than the other 2 IMHO Sabbaths compositions were pretty simple and straghtforward as were DPs but DP elevated the material live.
5.Deep Purple 69-75(all 3 had awesome musicians but Blackmore and Lord were untouchable IMHO)
6.Deep Purple(Gillan and Coverdale, though Plant was awesome too, and Ozzy suited Sabbath as well)
I love all 3 bands my favourite varies with my mood.
best live band - DP...
longest legacy - Led Zep (but actually NOT deservedly!), but I consider Led Zep as overrated band...
released best albums - extremely hard to decide. When DP broke up in 76, they didnt have "weak album" yet and actually weakest records came when Led Zeppelin didnt exist and Sabbath were Iommi´s solo band, Led Zeppelin albums after Physical Graffiti are IMO worthless. Overall - counting how many albums I actually consider really GREAT (withOUT considering impact!), I think that Purple wins, as they are only band from mentioned which released GREAT album in almost each decade of their existence - 80s - Strangers, 90s - Purpendicular, 10s - NW?!. IMO last truly great Sabbath album is Headless Cross, last truly great Zeppelin album is Houses Of The Holy.
wrote the best songs - in THIS order: Purple / Sabbath / LedZep... one quote from Page explaining my position:
"I always tried to bring something fresh to anything that I used. I always made sure to come up with some variation. (...) So most of the comparisons rest on the lyrics. And Robert was supposed to change the lyrics, and he didn’t always do that."
best instrumentalists: Purple - actually all the time since Mk2 lineup!
best vocalist: it´s actually not that easy, because Sabbath had Gillan at his absolute peak too.... But considering classic lineups at their peak periods, it´s of course Gillan > Plant > Ozzy... but considering "2nd" most famous lineups it´s going to be Dio > Plant = Coverdale.
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Re: Purple ,Zeppelin and Sabbath
quote: ptr wrote:
quote: lightintheblack0 wrote:
Now that at long last DP have finally been inducted alongside the other members of the BIG 3 who do we think during their peak periods are/were
1. The best live band
2. Will have the longest lasting legacy
3. Released the best albums
4. wrote the best songs
5. had the best instrumentalists
6. Had the best vocalist
my thoughts
1.Deep Purple /Zeppelin can't decide both were stunning live bands at least until the drugs kicked in ,Sabbath weren't so great live at times.
2.Led Zeppelin(no doubt that they are by far the BIGGEST of them all)
3.Sabbath(Sabbaths first 6 albums were superb and all of a very high standard, Purple and Zeppelin released some awesome material too but standards varied.
4.Led Zeppelin(Zeppelin were better composers than the other 2 IMHO Sabbaths compositions were pretty simple and straghtforward as were DPs but DP elevated the material live.
5.Deep Purple 69-75(all 3 had awesome musicians but Blackmore and Lord were untouchable IMHO)
6.Deep Purple(Gillan and Coverdale, though Plant was awesome too, and Ozzy suited Sabbath as well)
I love all 3 bands my favourite varies with my mood.
best live band - DP...
longest legacy - Led Zep (but actually NOT deservedly!), but I consider Led Zep as overrated band...
released best albums - extremely hard to decide. When DP broke up in 76, they didnt have "weak album" yet and actually weakest records came when Led Zeppelin didnt exist and Sabbath were Iommi´s solo band, Led Zeppelin albums after Physical Graffiti are IMO worthless. Overall - counting how many albums I actually consider really GREAT (withOUT considering impact!), I think that Purple wins, as they are only band from mentioned which released GREAT album in almost each decade of their existence - 80s - Strangers, 90s - Purpendicular, 10s - NW?!. IMO last truly great Sabbath album is Headless Cross, last truly great Zeppelin album is Houses Of The Holy.
wrote the best songs - in THIS order: Purple / Sabbath / LedZep... one quote from Page explaining my position:
"I always tried to bring something fresh to anything that I used. I always made sure to come up with some variation. (...) So most of the comparisons rest on the lyrics. And Robert was supposed to change the lyrics, and he didn’t always do that."
best instrumentalists: Purple - actually all the time since Mk2 lineup!
best vocalist: it´s actually not that easy, because Sabbath had Gillan at his absolute peak too.... But considering classic lineups at their peak periods, it´s of course Gillan > Plant > Ozzy... but considering "2nd" most famous lineups it´s going to be Dio > Plant = Coverdale.
1.In what way do you consider Zeppelin to be operated?Their one of the greatest rock bands the planet has ever seen and their influence is unmatched.
2.Take your point about Purple releasing good albums post 70s but the album releases i was talking about were during the bands peak periods i.e. the 70s, post 80s then Sabbath win for me again with Heaven and Hell and The Mob Rules which were awesome albums..
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Re: Purple ,Zeppelin and Sabbath
- Best live band would have to be DP
- longest lasting legacy is probably Zep, but I too consider them overrated (will get back to that later on)
- best albums...tight race, I like DP best but also BS are fun. Zep I take in small doses:-)
- to me, as a whole DP. Some songs from both BS and LZ are great, but overall I find them both too formulaic, even if in a different way.
- DP, the others are not even close.
- again DP; although with Hughes and Gillan being part of BS's roster, plus Dio, it gets really close. What makes me choose Purple is that they never had Ozzy;-)
Seriously, and I know many won't agree, but I never grasped what all that fuzz about LZ was about. I mean, they were cool and knew how to flaunt their coolness, but as a band they were never special to me. I could probably put together ten songs of them I really love to create my killer LZ record, but as a whole I never liked them too much. Perhaps it's just that their roots are not my cup of tea.
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Re: Purple ,Zeppelin and Sabbath
quote: lightintheblack0 wrote:
quote: ptr wrote:
quote: lightintheblack0 wrote:
Now that at long last DP have finally been inducted alongside the other members of the BIG 3 who do we think during their peak periods are/were
1. The best live band
2. Will have the longest lasting legacy
3. Released the best albums
4. wrote the best songs
5. had the best instrumentalists
6. Had the best vocalist
my thoughts
1.Deep Purple /Zeppelin can't decide both were stunning live bands at least until the drugs kicked in ,Sabbath weren't so great live at times.
2.Led Zeppelin(no doubt that they are by far the BIGGEST of them all)
3.Sabbath(Sabbaths first 6 albums were superb and all of a very high standard, Purple and Zeppelin released some awesome material too but standards varied.
4.Led Zeppelin(Zeppelin were better composers than the other 2 IMHO Sabbaths compositions were pretty simple and straghtforward as were DPs but DP elevated the material live.
5.Deep Purple 69-75(all 3 had awesome musicians but Blackmore and Lord were untouchable IMHO)
6.Deep Purple(Gillan and Coverdale, though Plant was awesome too, and Ozzy suited Sabbath as well)
I love all 3 bands my favourite varies with my mood.
best live band - DP...
longest legacy - Led Zep (but actually NOT deservedly!), but I consider Led Zep as overrated band...
released best albums - extremely hard to decide. When DP broke up in 76, they didnt have "weak album" yet and actually weakest records came when Led Zeppelin didnt exist and Sabbath were Iommi´s solo band, Led Zeppelin albums after Physical Graffiti are IMO worthless. Overall - counting how many albums I actually consider really GREAT (withOUT considering impact!), I think that Purple wins, as they are only band from mentioned which released GREAT album in almost each decade of their existence - 80s - Strangers, 90s - Purpendicular, 10s - NW?!. IMO last truly great Sabbath album is Headless Cross, last truly great Zeppelin album is Houses Of The Holy.
wrote the best songs - in THIS order: Purple / Sabbath / LedZep... one quote from Page explaining my position:
"I always tried to bring something fresh to anything that I used. I always made sure to come up with some variation. (...) So most of the comparisons rest on the lyrics. And Robert was supposed to change the lyrics, and he didn’t always do that."
best instrumentalists: Purple - actually all the time since Mk2 lineup!
best vocalist: it´s actually not that easy, because Sabbath had Gillan at his absolute peak too.... But considering classic lineups at their peak periods, it´s of course Gillan > Plant > Ozzy... but considering "2nd" most famous lineups it´s going to be Dio > Plant = Coverdale.
1.In what way do you consider Zeppelin to be operated?Their one of the greatest rock bands the planet has ever seen and their influence is unmatched.
2.Take your point about Purple releasing good albums post 70s but the album releases i was talking about were during the bands peak periods i.e. the 70s, post 80s then Sabbath win for me again with Heaven and Hell and The Mob Rules which were awesome albums..
Let me use this as an answer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx3U6xJfnSA
I think that his own quote was more than clear explanation.
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1 thru 6....all Deep Purple.
It's not because I'm a Deep Purple fan that I say this, but it's the reason why I became a fan.
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Re: Purple ,Zeppelin and Sabbath
some interesting answers so far Don't get the Ozzy bashing though?yes these days and indeed for a good few years in fact he's been a bit of a charicature and a bit of a shambling mess really ,but back in the day i really can't imagine anyone else singing those Sabbath classics with the same menace as Ozzy.Dio couldn't do them justice ,he put on that daft growl when singing Ozzy songs that just really never worked IMHO.It was like DC and Glenn doing MK2 material. Gillans work in Sabbath is better left forgotten IMHO the vocals on the album were awesome but live?Oh dear.
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Not a huge LZ fan either...
Love DP and BS...Love all the incarnations of BS!!! Great stuff.
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LITB - talking about Ozzy, if we refer to his ability to deliver those particular songs, then he is perfect. But his range, control, technique and tone didn't allow one to make a lot more or something really different than what he did. He was more limited than Gillan, Plant, Dio, Coverdale, Hughes, etc.
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