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And to prove the point further, when the two key people left in '73, they went on to peak after peak...Roger did some astounding albums before saving again Ritchie who had founded an unknown band with second-rate musicians after a brief disaster called MKIII, and IG (after a fantastic venture into management) sold out oceanic gigs and was universally acclaimed for the albums of his band. To the point where we was not broke at all in 84 when he almost forced Ritchie to be saved again by him.



Who wrote that Gillan/Glover were the two key people? They just were two people who helped a session guitar player to become famous. Nothing more, nothing less. And after somebody is famous, it's not so very hard to stay famous. Although, today Ritchie is just known for the things he did in the past. Because he choose, to leave the world of Rock Music. But it's his decision, so it's not to criticize.




Laughable mate just laughable .BTW. What are Messrs Gillan,Glover and Paice famous for ?is it now what ? Crapture of the deep ? Purpendicular? Bananas? No I dont think so ?YOUR bananas if you think that emoticon



IG - for his voice, lyrics and stage performance, Roger - for his bassplaying and producing, Paice - for his virtuoso druming.




Yes that's correct but it was ALL a looooonnnnggg time ago .Actually I'm not sure Gillan is famous for his lyrics or stage performance ? He's NEVER been a great rock frontman he was a fantastic singer though possibly the finest rock voice of them all during the 70s
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Yes that's correct but it was ALL a looooonnnnggg time ago


Just like it is with Ritchie.
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I assume the slightly (but intended) derogatory choice of words 'session player' applies to all session players, like Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck, etc - interesting.
I dabble in guitar and know that session players are actually excellent players because they have to play very different styles at a moment's notice; so, for ) to have appeared on about 600 songs by the time he was 24 is not too shabby...wish I had had 1% of that.



The choice of the word "session player" should point at those people here, who call Don Airey "just a session player". I'm surely aware, that they are excellent musicians.
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Oh, my...do I have to explain it all?? Session players ARE excellent musicians, and yet if I say about someone that he's JUST a session player I am not contradicting - I am saying that he is excellent technically but not very creative or unique. And I stand by my opinion that whilst Don is a great musician, he is not very gifted from a 'uniqueness' point of view, nor does he have a lot to say as a songwriter. I know 2 (2!) people on this board will reply that he wrote a lot of fantastic stuff on NW (true to a minor extent) but my point is that he has a 40- years long career, with quite a few solo albums and countless collaborations, and unfortunately things point towards my view on pretty much all of it. Pls. Don't take this as lack of respect for him, which has nothing to do with my point.
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Oh, my...do I have to explain it all?? Session players ARE excellent musicians, and yet if I say about someone that he's JUST a session player I am not contradicting - I am saying that he is excellent technically but not very creative or unique. And I stand by my opinion that whilst Don is a great musician, he is not very gifted from a 'uniqueness' point of view, nor does he have a lot to say as a songwriter. I know 2 (2!) people on this board will reply that he wrote a lot of fantastic stuff on NW (true to a minor extent) but my point is that he has a 40- years long career, with quite a few solo albums and countless collaborations, and unfortunately things point towards my view on pretty much all of it. Pls. Don't take this as lack of respect for him, which has nothing to do with my point.



i agree with this 100% that is exactly how i feel about Don Airey.

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Yes that's correct but it was ALL a looooonnnnggg time ago


Just like it is with Ritchie.




Aint nobody here arguing about that mate?YOU are the one who mentioned Ritche is famous for what he did in the past and that he walked away from that fame ,somehow implying that Gillan and co are famous for anything post 70s?Im simply pointing out that theyre not!!The only DP member who's fame grew post 70s is David Coverdale when Whitesnake became massive in the late 80s.NO OTHER DP member has had that kind of success outside the DP banner,Rainbow came closest.
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YOU are the one who mentioned Ritche is famous for what he did in the past and that he walked away from that fame ,somehow implying that Gillan and co are famous for anything post 70s?


Did I? Where? Or did you read something into my posts, that I did not write nor mean?
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Oh, my...do I have to explain it all?? Session players ARE excellent musicians, and yet if I say about someone that he's JUST a session player I am not contradicting - I am saying that he is excellent technically but not very creative or unique. And I stand by my opinion that whilst Don is a great musician, he is not very gifted from a 'uniqueness' point of view, nor does he have a lot to say as a songwriter. I know 2 (2!) people on this board will reply that he wrote a lot of fantastic stuff on NW (true to a minor extent) but my point is that he has a 40- years long career, with quite a few solo albums and countless collaborations, and unfortunately things point towards my view on pretty much all of it. Pls. Don't take this as lack of respect for him, which has nothing to do with my point.



I have a totally different view on Don Airey. Not only because he wrote a lot of stuff on NW and also on Rapture. He also won the European Song Contest with his arrangement of "Walking on Sunshine" - which - by the way - means nothing to me personally. His intro to Mr. Crowley is legendary. And have you listened to his solo stuff? He has a lot to offer. You judge him, like I perhaps would judge Jon Lord, if I only knew him from Whitesnake, where he wasn't allowed to show his talents, because they were not fitting the direction David Coverdale wanted to go. Don Airey has a lot to offer as a musician and a songwriter. But only when he joined Deep Purple he was in a role, where he could show all his talents.
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Way different opinion from mine, but that's fine. Just to avoid misunderstandings, though: I have listened to a lot from Don over the years, including his solo stuff and many collaborations/bands...I don't have time, but I could count the CDs I have with him on keyboards, and it's plenty.
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 emoticon Each one to his own opinion, that's what I always say.

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