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Re: Gillan, Glover and Paice on Ritchie's absence at HOF
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I always thought managers always treat their golden goose and cash cow as "babies" or "royalties", maybe when they are starting or have no name managers becomes boss, but when they become stars, they "fire" or "sue" their managers.
Managers can be replaced, but there is only "one" Ian Gillan and only "one" Ian Paice.
I mean if the manager did something that Mariah Carey doesn't want or other stars you'll be fired. That's why managers becomes the fixers of problems. 
And then... there are managers like Colonel Parker.
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14/4/2016, 13:58
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Re: Gillan, Glover and Paice on Ritchie's absence at HOF
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quote: Randys wrote:
I always thought managers always treat their golden goose and cash cow as "babies" or "royalties", maybe when they are starting or have no name managers becomes boss, but when they become stars, they "fire" or "sue" their managers.
Managers can be replaced, but there is only "one" Ian Gillan and only "one" Ian Paice.
I mean if the manager did something that Mariah Carey doesn't want or other stars you'll be fired. That's why managers becomes the fixers of problems. 
And then... there are managers like Colonel Parker.
Well Gillans never hidden his Elvis influences.Maybe he likes that style of manager ?
Though it has to be said Bruce can hardly be described as a Colonel Parker when it comes to branding his product.If only DP had had management like Peter Grant or indeed Rod Smallwood ,now those guys knew/know how to promote their artists.
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14/4/2016, 17:58
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Re: Gillan, Glover and Paice on Ritchie's absence at HOF
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I'm not buying that nyfan.Are you seriously trying to tell me that Ian Gillan ,Roger Glover and Ian Paice had NOTHING to do with what Payne communicated to the Blackmore camp?You believe they had no say in whether Ritchie could play with them at the ceremony?That's naive at best.This is the same Ian Gillan who insisted on the touring band playing as the living breathing DP.The demeanour of the guys at the Q&A spoke volumes .They made an arse of things plain and simple and were embarrassed .
Sounds like a conspiracy theory.
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14/4/2016, 20:23
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Re: Gillan, Glover and Paice on Ritchie's absence at HOF
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quote: lightintheblack0 wrote:
I'm not buying that nyfan.Are you seriously trying to tell me that Ian Gillan ,Roger Glover and Ian Paice had NOTHING to do with what Payne communicated to the Blackmore camp?You believe they had no say in whether Ritchie could play with them at the ceremony?That's naive at best.This is the same Ian Gillan who insisted on the touring band playing as the living breathing DP.The demeanour of the guys at the Q&A spoke volumes .They made an arse of things plain and simple and were embarrassed .
Sounds like a conspiracy theory.
Really ? reckon you need to get out more man
It's plain simple common sense mate .C'mon ffs do you think Payne acted on his own here without speaking to the band ? No chance !!I would bet my house he was relaying Gillans (not sure about Roger? But probably Paicey as well)wishes to the Blackmore camp.Selfish ungrateful unforgiving and bitter old men no doubt .
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14/4/2016, 20:35
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You still believe, your opinion is common sense? That makes it hard to discuss.
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14/4/2016, 20:49
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Re: Gillan, Glover and Paice on Ritchie's absence at HOF
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You still believe, your opinion is common sense? That makes it hard to discuss.
It's common sense to me maybe not to anyone else ?
Whats your take on it Friedhelm?Do you think it makes sense that Payne acted on his own without discussing things with the band ?
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14/4/2016, 20:59
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Yes.
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14/4/2016, 21:34
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Excellent manager and powerful artists, then - no doubt.
Friedhelm, there are two alternatives here, really:
A - it was the band's decision (and then they are ungrateful old bitter men)
B - it was the manager deciding on his own about a period when he was not even their manager (and then the band is a bunch of gullible muppets)
...choose your poison, I'm already laughing.
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14/4/2016, 21:43
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Excellent manager and powerful artists, then - no doubt.
Friedhelm, there are two alternatives here, really:
A - it was the band's decision (and then they are ungrateful old bitter men)
B - it was the manager deciding on his own about a period when he was not even their manager (and then the band is a bunch of gullible muppets)
...choose your poison, I'm already laughing.
Me too
oh and of course there is the Gillan claim that he invited Ritchie to perform ?? So then this must have been in defiance of his all powerful manager ? Maybe that's why Paicey swooped to steal the mic and save old Gallons getting in hot water with his boss ? cmon friedhelm your not that daft mate ? Are you?
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14/4/2016, 22:08
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Re: Gillan, Glover and Paice on Ritchie's absence at HOF
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quote: mtb7 wrote:
Excellent manager and powerful artists, then - no doubt.
Friedhelm, there are two alternatives here, really:
A - it was the band's decision (and then they are ungrateful old bitter men)
B - it was the manager deciding on his own about a period when he was not even their manager (and then the band is a bunch of gullible muppets)
...choose your poison, I'm already laughing.
Me too
oh and of course there is the Gillan claim that he invited Ritchie to perform ?? So then this must have been in defiance of his all powerful manager ? Maybe that's why Paicey swooped to steal the mic and save old Gallons getting in hot water with his boss ? cmon friedhelm your not that daft mate ? Are you?
Gillan is happy and thought that the media will ask about the upcoming new album and how great the current lineup is. He was about to explode but Paicey save the day.
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14/4/2016, 22:28
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