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 The best we can get is IG/RG/IP accepting the awards for whole inducted Mk2 lineup with Roger probably giving some diplomatic speech with some cheeky comment from IG. emoticon



And yet again you want to exclude Ritchie???The other three would not be there if not for Blackers and thats a FACT!!!! He chose them for the band in the first place .What is it you can't grasp about this???

The best we can get is Blackmore Gillan Glover and Paice accepting the award.There would be absolutely no problem with this whatsoever as Gillan and Blackmore are at least on talking terms again.No performance though as its pointless without Jon.



I explained this at the bottom of page 5. Read that again. Ritchie should be inducted without any doubt, it´s just about his presence on stage for accepting the award - then it´s about RB alone on stage accepting that award or IG/RG/IP on stage. I prefer the second option (which is in fact also more probable).



I dont agree at all ptr EVERY living MK2 member should be there to accept ,if the other three can't accept that then there is something wrong with them(although the problem was really with Ian Gillan) .Anyway as I said Ian and Ritchie are on talking terms again so whats the problem with all four being there?To be honest I think Gillan would have more problem with DC and Glenn being there?Hes never accepted any DP MK without him in it.
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lightintheblack0 wrote:

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 The best we can get is IG/RG/IP accepting the awards for whole inducted Mk2 lineup with Roger probably giving some diplomatic speech with some cheeky comment from IG. emoticon



And yet again you want to exclude Ritchie???The other three would not be there if not for Blackers and thats a FACT!!!! He chose them for the band in the first place .What is it you can't grasp about this???

The best we can get is Blackmore Gillan Glover and Paice accepting the award.There would be absolutely no problem with this whatsoever as Gillan and Blackmore are at least on talking terms again.No performance though as its pointless without Jon.



I explained this at the bottom of page 5. Read that again. Ritchie should be inducted without any doubt, it´s just about his presence on stage for accepting the award - then it´s about RB alone on stage accepting that award or IG/RG/IP on stage. I prefer the second option (which is in fact also more probable).



I dont agree at all ptr EVERY living MK2 member should be there to accept ,if the other three can't accept that then there is something wrong with them(although the problem was really with Ian Gillan) .Anyway as I said Ian and Ritchie are on talking terms again so whats the problem with all four being there?To be honest I think Gillan would have more problem with DC and Glenn being there?Hes never accepted any DP MK without him in it.



I´m afraid that Ian´s words about "talking terms again" is more related to the legal issues (which were discussed here couple of months ago - in reaction to this legal issue it was Ian Paice who said they are not friends with Ritchie anymore) - so "talking terms again" doesnt necessary means positive thing. They may forgot the issues from decades back, Jon´s death maybe partly buried the hatchet because of old personal issues between them, but new serious issues appeared again. As I said - I really think that they two will never come on the same stage again.
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 The best we can get is IG/RG/IP accepting the awards for whole inducted Mk2 lineup with Roger probably giving some diplomatic speech with some cheeky comment from IG. emoticon



And yet again you want to exclude Ritchie???The other three would not be there if not for Blackers and thats a FACT!!!! He chose them for the band in the first place .What is it you can't grasp about this???

The best we can get is Blackmore Gillan Glover and Paice accepting the award.There would be absolutely no problem with this whatsoever as Gillan and Blackmore are at least on talking terms again.No performance though as its pointless without Jon.



I explained this at the bottom of page 5. Read that again. Ritchie should be inducted without any doubt, it´s just about his presence on stage for accepting the award - then it´s about RB alone on stage accepting that award or IG/RG/IP on stage. I prefer the second option (which is in fact also more probable).



I dont agree at all ptr EVERY living MK2 member should be there to accept ,if the other three can't accept that then there is something wrong with them(although the problem was really with Ian Gillan) .Anyway as I said Ian and Ritchie are on talking terms again so whats the problem with all four being there?To be honest I think Gillan would have more problem with DC and Glenn being there?Hes never accepted any DP MK without him in it.



I´m afraid that Ian´s words about "talking terms again" is more related to the legal issues (which were discussed here couple of months ago - in reaction to this legal issue it was Ian Paice who said they are not friends with Ritchie anymore) - so "talking terms again" doesnt necessary means positive thing. They may forgot the issues from decades back, Jon´s death maybe partly buried the hatchet because of old personal issues between them, but new serious issues appeared again. As I said - I really think that they two will never come on the same stage again.



Ian Gillan speaking about Ritchie last year
“I don’t have an issue with Ritchie, nor does anyone. I’ve been in touch with Ritchie recently and everything’s cool, so there’s no bitter, personal problem. We’re too old for that and everything’s in the past"
given that statement why wouldn't they accept an award together?Nobody is talking about performing together.

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lightintheblack0 wrote:

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lightintheblack0 wrote:

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ptr wrote:

 The best we can get is IG/RG/IP accepting the awards for whole inducted Mk2 lineup with Roger probably giving some diplomatic speech with some cheeky comment from IG. emoticon



And yet again you want to exclude Ritchie???The other three would not be there if not for Blackers and thats a FACT!!!! He chose them for the band in the first place .What is it you can't grasp about this???

The best we can get is Blackmore Gillan Glover and Paice accepting the award.There would be absolutely no problem with this whatsoever as Gillan and Blackmore are at least on talking terms again.No performance though as its pointless without Jon.



I explained this at the bottom of page 5. Read that again. Ritchie should be inducted without any doubt, it´s just about his presence on stage for accepting the award - then it´s about RB alone on stage accepting that award or IG/RG/IP on stage. I prefer the second option (which is in fact also more probable).



I dont agree at all ptr EVERY living MK2 member should be there to accept ,if the other three can't accept that then there is something wrong with them(although the problem was really with Ian Gillan) .Anyway as I said Ian and Ritchie are on talking terms again so whats the problem with all four being there?To be honest I think Gillan would have more problem with DC and Glenn being there?Hes never accepted any DP MK without him in it.



I´m afraid that Ian´s words about "talking terms again" is more related to the legal issues (which were discussed here couple of months ago - in reaction to this legal issue it was Ian Paice who said they are not friends with Ritchie anymore) - so "talking terms again" doesnt necessary means positive thing. They may forgot the issues from decades back, Jon´s death maybe partly buried the hatchet because of old personal issues between them, but new serious issues appeared again. As I said - I really think that they two will never come on the same stage again.



Ian Gillan speaking about Ritchie last year
“I don’t have an issue with Ritchie, nor does anyone. I’ve been in touch with Ritchie recently and everything’s cool, so there’s no bitter, personal problem. We’re too old for that and everything’s in the past"
given that statement why wouldn't they accept an award together?Nobody is talking about performing together.




I know about this statement - just short time after that legal issue about using name of Deep Purple appeared (and it seems to be completely forgotten topic at this board since then). Ian Paice said that he isnt sure that Ritchie is his friend anymore and some of us (me included) supposed that Ian´s discussions with Ritchie might be about solving this legal battle (where Ian Paice is an opponent against Ritchie). So let´s see.
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I don't see big issues: if MK II only is inducted, then ) should be there and SM would not complain about him appearing, as only 5 specific people would be inducted. If it goes across marks, then RB's presence is less crucial and he can do as he pleases, with SM also appearing as a current member.
This all assumes the people in the committee will switch on their brains when voting:-)
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lightintheblack0 wrote:

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 The best we can get is IG/RG/IP accepting the awards for whole inducted Mk2 lineup with Roger probably giving some diplomatic speech with some cheeky comment from IG. emoticon



And yet again you want to exclude Ritchie???The other three would not be there if not for Blackers and thats a FACT!!!! He chose them for the band in the first place .What is it you can't grasp about this???

The best we can get is Blackmore Gillan Glover and Paice accepting the award.There would be absolutely no problem with this whatsoever as Gillan and Blackmore are at least on talking terms again.No performance though as its pointless without Jon.



I explained this at the bottom of page 5. Read that again. Ritchie should be inducted without any doubt, it´s just about his presence on stage for accepting the award - then it´s about RB alone on stage accepting that award or IG/RG/IP on stage. I prefer the second option (which is in fact also more probable).



I dont agree at all ptr EVERY living MK2 member should be there to accept ,if the other three can't accept that then there is something wrong with them(although the problem was really with Ian Gillan) .Anyway as I said Ian and Ritchie are on talking terms again so whats the problem with all four being there?To be honest I think Gillan would have more problem with DC and Glenn being there?Hes never accepted any DP MK without him in it.



I´m afraid that Ian´s words about "talking terms again" is more related to the legal issues (which were discussed here couple of months ago - in reaction to this legal issue it was Ian Paice who said they are not friends with Ritchie anymore) - so "talking terms again" doesnt necessary means positive thing. They may forgot the issues from decades back, Jon´s death maybe partly buried the hatchet because of old personal issues between them, but new serious issues appeared again. As I said - I really think that they two will never come on the same stage again.



Ian Gillan speaking about Ritchie last year
“I don’t have an issue with Ritchie, nor does anyone. I’ve been in touch with Ritchie recently and everything’s cool, so there’s no bitter, personal problem. We’re too old for that and everything’s in the past"
given that statement why wouldn't they accept an award together?Nobody is talking about performing together.




I know about this statement - just short time after that legal issue about using name of Deep Purple appeared (and it seems to be completely forgotten topic at this board since then). Ian Paice said that he isnt sure that Ritchie is his friend anymore and some of us (me included) supposed that Ian´s discussions with Ritchie might be about solving this legal battle (where Ian Paice is an opponent against Ritchie). So let´s see.




"Everythings cool and theres no bitter personal problem" aays to me that everythings cool and theres no bitter personal problem .Of course being on the payroll you may have some inside info? emoticon
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If Ritchie performs with DP without him (Steve), he would definitely be hurt and leave the band, he is a nice guy, but he also got pride, so Gillan doesn't want Ritchie to show up. Thats my opinion and I think I'm not alone in that. I want Ritchie to show up and play, but it will change DP big time.



This "danger" is actually... pointless. At first - I think that Steve would have no problem with ONLY Mk2 introduced in RRHOF. The real problem would be (and it cannot happen!) a pressure for asking the performance of Mk2 lineup - which can not happen, because Jon is dead and Ritchie & Ian will never come to the same stage at the same time. As I told you - performance of Mk2 lineup (even with Don as guest instead of Jon) will NEVER happen again (it didnt happen even on JL´s tribute show!) and I actually think that Deep Purple will NOT perform during the ceremony (if inducted). Discussing about "who will perform" and how other members are going to see that and leave in anger after that is just... without relevant basics. The best we can get is IG/RG/IP accepting the awards for whole inducted Mk2 lineup with Roger probably giving some diplomatic speech with some cheeky comment from IG. emoticon



How do you know it's okay with Steve? If that is the case then lightintheblack is right, Steve is a hired gun.

How sure are you that only Mark II will be inducted?

How sure are you that David, Glenn, Rod and Nick will not attend if they are included in the inductees?



Because I have read dozens of Steve Morse´s interviews about DP´s past and he always showed enormous respect to Ritchie and job he did with the band. In case of ONLY Mk2 inducted to RRHOF - I think he would have no problem with that - and I even dont think that it would had any effect on current lineup. I actually think that making the "ego" issue from it especially in the case of Steve (with his personality) is hillarious. Steve is not trying to compete with Ritchie - music is not competition. It´s more about pragmatism and realistic attitude. So - I´m almost sure that DP will NOT perform on RRHOF (if they are going to be inducted) and I think that only Mk2 members are going to be inducted - RJD wasnt inducted in case of Sabbath - and I think that RJD had much bigger impact in Sabbath story than Nick/Rod and even than DC/GH. In Rock / Fireball / Machine Head and Made In Japan are the records which are going to be appreciated.



Okay, but even if you read thousands of interviews of him praising Ritchie....well Steve is a human being, he is not robot or a machine, he's got feelings and emotions just like you and me, he is not a Terminator. emoticon

If my memory serves me right I think Robert Trujillo of Metallica is also inducted.
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Mark II will not perform? Gillan, Paice and Glover don't want to perform?

Everybody would be happy with these performing "Smoke on the Water"!

Ritchie Blackmore - guitarist
David Coverdale - vocalist
Glenn Hughes - bassist
Keith Emerson - guest keyboardist
Simon Phillips - guest drummer

What you think light and ptr?! emoticon emoticon
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Mark II will not perform? Gillan, Paice and Glover don't want to perform?

Everybody would be happy with these performing "Smoke on the Water"!

Ritchie Blackmore - guitarist
David Coverdale - vocalist
Glenn Hughes - bassist
Keith Emerson - guest keyboardist
Simon Phillips - guest drummer

What you think light and ptr?! emoticon emoticon



I would rather have the remaining members of MK2 with Don as guest perform Smoke, then also have that lineup you suggest Randys do Burn(even better if Paicey decided to play with the MK3 guys ) emoticon But then I'm greedy emoticon

You know what after all those years of great music wouldn't it be great if they could all just bury the hatchet completely and celebrate Deep Purple?But then the real time to do it was at Jons memorial and sadly DC and Ritchie were no shows emoticon This would be a second opportunity though.
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If Ritchie performs with DP without him (Steve), he would definitely be hurt and leave the band, he is a nice guy, but he also got pride, so Gillan doesn't want Ritchie to show up. Thats my opinion and I think I'm not alone in that. I want Ritchie to show up and play, but it will change DP big time.



This "danger" is actually... pointless. At first - I think that Steve would have no problem with ONLY Mk2 introduced in RRHOF. The real problem would be (and it cannot happen!) a pressure for asking the performance of Mk2 lineup - which can not happen, because Jon is dead and Ritchie & Ian will never come to the same stage at the same time. As I told you - performance of Mk2 lineup (even with Don as guest instead of Jon) will NEVER happen again (it didnt happen even on JL´s tribute show!) and I actually think that Deep Purple will NOT perform during the ceremony (if inducted). Discussing about "who will perform" and how other members are going to see that and leave in anger after that is just... without relevant basics. The best we can get is IG/RG/IP accepting the awards for whole inducted Mk2 lineup with Roger probably giving some diplomatic speech with some cheeky comment from IG. emoticon



How do you know it's okay with Steve? If that is the case then lightintheblack is right, Steve is a hired gun.

How sure are you that only Mark II will be inducted?

How sure are you that David, Glenn, Rod and Nick will not attend if they are included in the inductees?



Because I have read dozens of Steve Morse´s interviews about DP´s past and he always showed enormous respect to Ritchie and job he did with the band. In case of ONLY Mk2 inducted to RRHOF - I think he would have no problem with that - and I even dont think that it would had any effect on current lineup. I actually think that making the "ego" issue from it especially in the case of Steve (with his personality) is hillarious. Steve is not trying to compete with Ritchie - music is not competition. It´s more about pragmatism and realistic attitude. So - I´m almost sure that DP will NOT perform on RRHOF (if they are going to be inducted) and I think that only Mk2 members are going to be inducted - RJD wasnt inducted in case of Sabbath - and I think that RJD had much bigger impact in Sabbath story than Nick/Rod and even than DC/GH. In Rock / Fireball / Machine Head and Made In Japan are the records which are going to be appreciated.



Okay, but even if you read thousands of interviews of him praising Ritchie....well Steve is a human being, he is not robot or a machine, he's got feelings and emotions just like you and me, he is not a Terminator. emoticon

If my memory serves me right I think Robert Trujillo of Metallica is also inducted.



Trujillo inducted with Metallica? And he joined Metallica in 2003? Then I really think that current DP should be inducted too - with obvious Mk2 and 3 lineups:
Ritchie, Jon, Ian Paice, Ian Gillan, Roger Glover, David Coverdale, Glenn Hughes, Steve Morse and Don Airey. emoticon
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