afacan
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Trading FLAC turned into an Audio CD
Is this something that should not be done? I know converting MP3s to audio cds is a 'no-no', but how about FLAC?
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16/8/2011, 20:29
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Witchy Nightmare
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Re: Trading FLAC turned into an Audio CD
FLAC is a lossless format ("FLAC" means "free lossless audio codec"), so I don't see any problems with turning FLAC into wave (for CD or whatever) and vice versa. You don't lose anything if you encode a wave file to FLAC and decode this back to wave.
In opposite to the mp3 crap which I strongly reject.
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17/8/2011, 10:09
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afacan
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Re: Trading FLAC turned into an Audio CD
I know FLAC is lossless, but is that something traders don't want?
Like would there be a trader who would oppose to CDs which are FLAC sourced?
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17/8/2011, 22:22
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Re: Trading FLAC turned into an Audio CD
As far as I know about all these trading issues, I assume that no serious collector will be annoyed about getting a CD with FLAC sourced files.
The important difference between the formats is the question about which are lossless and which are lossy. mp3 is a lossy format, therefore many collectors (including myself) don't want any recordings in mp3 format. FLAC is lossless, so you can convert wave to FLAC and vice versa as often as you like without losing anything of the audio signal.
However, if someone wants an audio CD to be played with playing gear which isn't able to play FLAC, the files have to be converted from FLAC to wave. A data CD with FLAC files cannot be played with older CD gear. That's the only problem about all that I can imagine.
There are some people who claim that FLAC isn't lossless, but for me this is esoterical nonsense. It's like claiming that the Earth is flat.
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18/8/2011, 10:32
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afacan
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Re: Trading FLAC turned into an Audio CD
I totally agree with you. The other day I realized I might have given a bootleg or two without telling the trader that they were converted to wave files from FLAC.
I don't own a player which can play FLAC, so if a bootleg is one that I play regularly then I keep it as an audio CD. I don't wanna screw anyone off, so I was just trying to put myself in the clear haha.
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18/8/2011, 15:16
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Re: Trading FLAC turned into an Audio CD
I would always prefer the FLAC files, instead of a CD burned from FLAC->WAV->cdda. It is true that if you compress->decompress->etc... WAV into FLAC into WAV into FLAC you will end up with the same fileset.
However, when burning the cdda, there will/might occur minor errors, as there is very little error handling in the burning process. This implies that next time you rip that cd, you will most properly not end up with a fileset that matches the original FLAC files.
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18/9/2011, 10:06
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Re: Trading FLAC turned into an Audio CD
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However, when burning the cdda, there will/might occur minor errors, as there is very little error handling in the burning process. This implies that next time you rip that cd, you will most properly not end up with a fileset that matches the original FLAC files.
If you burn the CD properly, ie without sector boundary errors, this shouldn't occur in theory. But yes, there can always be something going wrong while burning or ripping an audio CD.
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18/9/2011, 15:07
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Re: Trading FLAC turned into an Audio CD
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mrsnip wrote:
However, when burning the cdda, there will/might occur minor errors, as there is very little error handling in the burning process. This implies that next time you rip that cd, you will most properly not end up with a fileset that matches the original FLAC files.
If you burn the CD properly, ie without sector boundary errors, this shouldn't occur in theory. But yes, there can always be something going wrong while burning or ripping an audio CD.
SBE's are actually introduced during ripping or splitting into tracks.
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19/9/2011, 14:43
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Re: Trading FLAC turned into an Audio CD
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SBE's are actually introduced during ripping or splitting into tracks.
Yes, but there are tools to fix them. And when you burn a CD properly without SBEs you shouldn't get them when ripping the tracks from the CD.
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20/9/2011, 12:19
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Re: Trading FLAC turned into an Audio CD
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mrsnip wrote:
SBE's are actually introduced during ripping or splitting into tracks.
Yes, but there are tools to fix them. And when you burn a CD properly without SBEs you shouldn't get them when ripping the tracks from the CD.
Correct, but if the fileset is properly made in the first place, it doesn't matter how you burn the cdda. Anyway, SBEs has nothing to do with what I wrote in my first post.
Some traders do not want cdda-generated discs. Personally I'm not like that, but there are some.
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20/9/2011, 18:58
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