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I also got the feeling that he was trying to smoke the rest of the band out of the water during the Stormbringer tour, especially during the final concerts.
Yeah, it sounds like he had a certain flow going on. I bet he couldn't wait to go out with Rainbow!
Have you heard the Rising Tour rehersal tapes (Tower of Babel bootleg)? There's some of the most exciting guitar work from him ever. Especially the Mistreated fast part takes (no vocals, just solo guitar over the intense backing) and LITB melodic whammy bar licks are just brilliant.
WOW! I can't believe I haven't heard this yet! Where is this recording (I thought I had all the good stuff already, apparently not).
He plays around the Mistreated ending the way you wished he'd always had. Amazing tone, too. The whole band sounds really exciting. And for once you can really hear Jimmy Bain's bass lines properly.
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I also got the feeling that he was trying to smoke the rest of the band out of the water during the Stormbringer tour, especially during the final concerts.
Yeah, it sounds like he had a certain flow going on. I bet he couldn't wait to go out with Rainbow!
Have you heard the Rising Tour rehersal tapes (Tower of Babel bootleg)? There's some of the most exciting guitar work from him ever. Especially the Mistreated fast part takes (no vocals, just solo guitar over the intense backing) and LITB melodic whammy bar licks are just brilliant.
WOW! I can't believe I haven't heard this yet! Where is this recording (I thought I had all the good stuff already, apparently not).
He plays around the Mistreated ending the way you wished he'd always had. Amazing tone, too. The whole band sounds really exciting. And for once you can really hear Jimmy Bain's bass lines properly.
This sounds incredible.
I remember reading a Coverdale interview regarding the Burn sessions; that he Hughes had been up all night with Martin Birch recording the choruses for the end of Mistreated, and had been rightly proud of how it came out. When Ritchie walked into the mixing room, the trio played the rough mix for him, and Ritchie, without looking at any of them, stated that the guitar was way too buried. In other words, Birch would have to turn the choruses WAY down. I guess Coverdale kept his mouth shut until he left the room, and then freeked out, throwing things and coming the closest he had come yet to leaving the band.
Mistreated is just a terrific, song one of the best in rock music ever. It's small wonder that Dio, Coverdale, and Blackmore have played it live so many times over the years. It's certainly one of the songs that stand up with the best of Mark II Deep Purple.
I grew up with Mistreated. At nine years old, I was staggered by the performance of it on television during the California Jam, and I've always been really fond of the studio rendition. But when I heard Rainbow Live in Europe, I never heard the Coverdale-sung versions quite the same way again; I just greatly preferred the Dio. That sentiment applies to the awe-inspiring Live in Munich '77 version as well.
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Apostate, we're in total agreement concerning the Dio versions of "Mistreated". When I heard the one from Munich on LIVE IN GERMANY 1976, it really blew me away. From then on something seemed lacking in Coverdale's performances.
I never cared too much for the Whitesnake takes. Moody and Marsden, as much as I love those guys, just never could nail that song like it was supposed to be played. The energy of the song was not there.
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Apostate, we're in total agreement concerning the Dio versions of "Mistreated". When I heard the one from Munich on LIVE IN GERMANY 1976, it really blew me away. From then on something seemed lacking in Coverdale's performances.
I never cared too much for the Whitesnake takes. Moody and Marsden, as much as I love those guys, just never could nail that song like it was supposed to be played. The energy of the song was not there.
I liked Live in the Heart of the City because they took Mistreated and were creative with the arrangement/interpretation. It's kind of cool for me when a singer/band does that little bit of experimentation. For me, that's what live performances are for: if I wanted to hear the exact same song as it is played in the studio, I'd just go home and listen to the studio recording.
And yes, I think the Rainbow Mistreated totally transformed the song into something better. There seemed to be more of a quasi-mystical, heavy metal blues to the song when Ronnie interpreted it. That, and I feel that Ronnie James Dio just seems to PUSH his guitarists toward scaling new heights and trying new things. Something about his voice just seems to make guitar players play a bit differently (and often much better). Same with Ronnie and Tony Iommi: Tony was playing alot of tired old stuff with Sabbath for several years before Ozzy was fired. His lead guitar playing on Heaven and Hell, Mob Rules, and Live Evil was notably different, and blew away what he'd been doing from Sabbath Bloody Sabbath to Never Say Die.
As astonishing as Ritchie was with Mark III Deep Purple, I think that the playing on Live in Paris '75 was the perfect example of how much more inspired he was working with Ronnie at the same time... as Rami mentioned, he was probably anxious to get really started with Rainbow.
The playing and songwriting on Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow underscores my point: Man On the Silver Mountain features a studio solo that is his most perfect since Burn. Every note is there for a reason, it is the perfect solo for that song, and very spine chilling and dramatic as well. The compositional structure of that song was copied left and right by the forthcoming NWOBHM.
Check out Self Portrait and Temple of the King, SP was progressive in a dark way that Deep Purple explored rarely. Temple of the King, with its classical inflections and powerful story telling, matches Soldier of Fortune...perhaps even blows past it (obviously Soldier of Fortune is a terrific song).
But anyway, forgive me for going on about Rainbow again, the 1975-1980 era of Rainbow is by far my favorite band, so I tend to get long winded about them.
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I was really surprised that Lordy dismissed the first Rainbow album as "second rate Purple". Like you said, it was for a main part very different.
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I was really surprised that Lordy dismissed the first Rainbow album as "second rate Purple". Like you said, it was for a main part very different.
I didn't know Jon said that. It was probably just a case of sour grapes. I do know that he really liked the Down to Earth album.
I should add that Lord might have been really turned off by the keyboards in Rainbow, which didn't come anywhere near his level of skill until Don Airey joined the band.
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Amazon.com sent an email saying MkIII Final Concerts are due out soon in the US:
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This is hands down the best Mark III performance available.
I realize that there are alot of dissenters on this opinion, and in some specific cases I agree. You Fool No One is best performed on Live in London; and both Mistreated and Burn (in my opinion) are far better on California Jam '74.
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Agreed there is some splendid stuff here! I have not listened to this one in a long time, just so happened to have pulled it out this weekend so I could have something to listen to while cleaning my garage. I'm a huge Glenn Hughes fan, but not a fan of this era of his live stuff- as he says in the book- ruined by all the coking- you can hear it here.. Some of the caterwauling (As in before Highway Star) I just said out loud- "Glenn, what are you doing??!!!" As I advance musically over the years I hear things better than before- I really enjoyed hearing this again- and just after coincidently found this thread about it as well this weekend. The Dio versions of Mistreated I agree with points made here- absolutely stunning!
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I actually had Live In Paris in my hand the other day, but put it down because I already had Made In Europe and Mk III: The Final Concerts. After reading the reviews though, it seems I need to go back and pick it up! I hope its still there...
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I actually had Live In Paris in my hand the other day, but put it down because I already had Made In Europe and Mk III: The Final Concerts. After reading the reviews though, it seems I need to go back and pick it up! I hope its still there...
Go for it mate!
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