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Mess = your comprehention level concerning this subject... how do I know? Because once I comprehended it through may listenings, it did click, and I do find it clinically amazing, so if thats anybody's thing, it's worth checking into.
Yngwie is an advanced guitarist beyond words, but that doesn't mean you have to like him, just deal with the fact.



 So you've learned a new word today eh?
To me the word clinical refers to something that may happen at a clinic or be administered by a clinician. It may be advice or a medical condition. It can also be used in arts and other fields to warrant a teaching or asking of advice.
 Now if you've listened to the CD to learn something, please enlighten us as to what you've taken from it in a clinical way.
 Have you learned something technical or philosophical from Widdlevie or White? Is there something new on this CD that isn't on either artists previous work? What justifies your amazement at it.
 YOu seem to be very easily impressed and amazed at things. Do you stand outside and directly under the sun staring at it and then spin around for a better view at noontime?

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If you don't know how the term "clinical" applies to music, then it's no surprise you're an amature.

And you just wasted more words than I care to read past the first sentance, as it went from that to purity of the first 3 words in your signature, which are in fact the same word.
Now, I understand you have some sort of vendetta with just about every musician that has worked with Blackmore since 1969, and consider the ones before that to be just as irrelevant... something to do with any of them having stood next to his semi superstar status, when they actually came just close enough to it in order for him to have them lynched and call it musical differences, when we all know thats a cover up for his inferiority complex... but what is it you have against the massively skilled Yngwie Malmsteen? Is it that some of the same singers Ritchie enlisted have worked with him afterward, or perhaps because he has dressed very similar to him?
Don't tell me you think he got his style of guitar playing from him, and might sight that as a reason... as you don't have the faintest clue who inspired him the most, although it's written all over his playing.
Just what is your problem with every other artist on the planet besides Ritchie anyway? You're like some poster child for Blackmore awareness begging. Oh, thats it, he no longer has limelight that you feel belongs to no other artist but him.. thats it, I finally got it! emoticon

It's also like you have some deep seeded resentment for the existance of guitar styles that you don't fancy, to the point where you make yourself feel better by trying to belittle any one who plays them.

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As I see it, Yngwie is as one dimensional as you can get as a player. I haven't been "amazed" by anything he has done since 1985...
He is a type of player that is good at what he does but can't do much else. (And after 25 years of doing the same thing it just gets laughable)
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If you don't know how the term "clinical" applies to music, then it's no surprise you're an amature.



 I simply asked you what it implies to you and if you could enlighten us on what you consider clinically amazing about the Widdlvie cd.
 I myself, as an amatuer(and you call yourself a professional) am always looking to improve and was hoping for some of your wisdom to come across.
 I was wrong!


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And you just wasted more words than I care to read past the first sentance, as it went from that to purity of the first 3 words in your signature, which are in fact the same word.



 So you read everything down to the signature anyway?

 I,unlike you who say you couldn't be bothered to read the rest of my post, really can't be bothered with your nonsensical rhetoric and can't reply because I can't be bothered.



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You just did reply, with your same rhetoric yourself.

You and niji have the same problem with advanced players, obviously.
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As I see it, Yngwie is as one dimensional as you can get as a player. I haven't been "amazed" by anything he has done since 1985...
He is a type of player that is good at what he does but can't do much else. (And after 25 years of doing the same thing it just gets laughable)



I simply asessed him from my own standpoint of having dstood in front of him a few times, everytime witnessing a completely trasformed artist, and if he is one dimensional, I must have missed something.
I also watched him blow Satch and Via away by doing everything they did, but with a metal element they couldn't seem topull off, and I'm not talking about the DVD wich was a toned down performance compared to the show I saw.
I don't even like him all that much, probably for a few of the same reasons as anyone else, but I'm not going to say he is the least bit lacking as a player, that would be lying from where I stand.
I don't know why I call it this, but if you have heard and seen him do the "ghost widdle" you would be baffled for sure, the guy is an amazing talent.

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I simply asessed him from my own standpoint of having dstood in front of him a few times, everytime witnessing a completely trasformed artist, and if he is one dimensional, I must have missed something.
I also watched him blow Satch and Via away by doing everything they did, but with a metal element they couldn't seem topull off, and I'm not talking about the DVD wich was a toned down performance compared to the show I saw.
I don't even like him all that much, probably for a few of the same reasons as anyone else, but I'm not going to say he is the least bit lacking as a player, that would be lying from where I stand.
I don't know why I call it this, but if you have heard and seen him do the "ghost widdle" you would be baffled for sure, the guy is an amazing talent.




I don't have any problem with "advanced players"...(fact is that I wouldn't rate Yngwie as an "advanced player" as what he does actually doesn't require that much)

but I like variation and Yngwie's albums all follow the same formula. He has been playing these runs for decades now. It got old even by the mid 80s. A good player should IMO be able to expand his horizons and move on and constantly explore new areas. Yngwie stagnated pretty early in his career. I give him some credits for still being a name in a business where most artists don't get more than 3 years in the spotlight but that's about it.
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A good player should IMO be able to expand his horizons and move on and constantly explore new areas.




Like the often maligned and totally underrated (well, on these boards, anyway), Jeff Beck? The guy is a true musician/artist, and on a totally different level to players like Vai and Malmsteen.

IMnvHO, of course!


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I simply asessed him from my own standpoint of having dstood in front of him a few times, everytime witnessing a completely trasformed artist, and if he is one dimensional, I must have missed something.
I also watched him blow Satch and Via away by doing everything they did, but with a metal element they couldn't seem topull off, and I'm not talking about the DVD wich was a toned down performance compared to the show I saw.
I don't even like him all that much, probably for a few of the same reasons as anyone else, but I'm not going to say he is the least bit lacking as a player, that would be lying from where I stand.
I don't know why I call it this, but if you have heard and seen him do the "ghost widdle" you would be baffled for sure, the guy is an amazing talent.




I don't have any problem with "advanced players"...(fact is that I wouldn't rate Yngwie as an "advanced player" as what he does actually doesn't require that much)

but I like variation and Yngwie's albums all follow the same formula. He has been playing these runs for decades now. It got old even by the mid 80s. A good player should IMO be able to expand his horizons and move on and constantly explore new areas. Yngwie stagnated pretty early in his career. I give him some credits for still being a name in a business where most artists don't get more than 3 years in the spotlight but that's about it.



 Widdlevies one solo and fill got old by the end of the first album and was really tired sounding by the second one. He may be an advanced guitarist,in comparison to what I'm not sure but 'advanced' doesn't mean squat when listening to him play the same old crap like Morse.Maybe they should name their albums advanced I, Advanced II and Advanced III so that we may discern the difference and know what and when to look for any encroachment on improvement.


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I simply asessed him from my own standpoint of having dstood in front of him a few times, everytime witnessing a completely trasformed artist, and if he is one dimensional, I must have missed something.
I also watched him blow Satch and Via away by doing everything they did, but with a metal element they couldn't seem topull off, and I'm not talking about the DVD wich was a toned down performance compared to the show I saw.
I don't even like him all that much, probably for a few of the same reasons as anyone else, but I'm not going to say he is the least bit lacking as a player, that would be lying from where I stand.
I don't know why I call it this, but if you have heard and seen him do the "ghost widdle" you would be baffled for sure, the guy is an amazing talent.




I don't have any problem with "advanced players"...(fact is that I wouldn't rate Yngwie as an "advanced player" as what he does actually doesn't require that much)

but I like variation and Yngwie's albums all follow the same formula. He has been playing these runs for decades now. It got old even by the mid 80s. A good player should IMO be able to expand his horizons and move on and constantly explore new areas. Yngwie stagnated pretty early in his career. I give him some credits for still being a name in a business where most artists don't get more than 3 years in the spotlight but that's about it.



Most albums by all artists follow the same formula pattern, and the ones that don't are exceptional, and arrived that way through boredom, for the most part, but not always produce great results either.

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