well? you might be interested? https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/t11251 Runboard| well? you might be interested? en-us Thu, 28 Mar 2024 12:52:09 +0000 Thu, 28 Mar 2024 12:52:09 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382502,from=rss#post382502https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382502,from=rss#post382502Coverage in the hands of the distortible, has always had a negative effect, and they get paid for it... it really is an art destroyer.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gillans micstand)Thu, 26 Oct 2006 00:20:54 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382500,from=rss#post382500https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382500,from=rss#post382500quote:Rezi wrote: quote:Gillans micstand wrote:  Funny thing about Blackmore and Clapton, because he was given his very first Strat from EC According to the new RB biography, Clapton gave the Strat (the one seen in the inner sleeve of BOT, sporting a Telecaster neck) to one of his roadies, who in turn sold the guitar to RB. The story is told by Ian Hansford. Bloom doesn't relate to whether the story is from a new interview or an old one. Clapton's roadie's name is Mick Turner. Bloom also quotes RB, the one which I think was already in the Charlesworth book ("it had a bowed neck", "it had a great sound with the wah-wah" etc).  I remember reading at least two different versions of how Blackmore acquired the Strat from Clapton, and here's the first one: GP: "You changed to a Fender Stratocaster for the third album, Deep Purple In Concert? Ritchie Blackmore: "I think it was, yeah. In fact the Strat I used belonged to Eric Clapton. I used it and liked the sound of it; it was very sharp but impossible to play The neck was so bowed, it was really bad. He just had one kicking around the house, and I picked it up and he said, "Take it away." It had a great sound for a wah-wah pedal because it was so sharp, but it was very difficult to play because it was so bowed. I thought it was an interesting guitar at the time, even though all the octaves were out." - Ritchie Blackmore in Guitar Player magazine,1978.  In the version of the story above, Blackmore definitely gives the impression he was personally given the guitar by Clapton...there's another quote bouncing around here in the back page where Blackmore gives an almost totally different version - ah well, contradicting himself (whether intentionally or not, I 've no idea) is certainly nothing new with Ritchie Blackmore...and not that it's of signifigant importance in an overall cosmic sense, either. nondisclosed_email@example.com (MrEd45)Thu, 26 Oct 2006 00:01:38 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382492,from=rss#post382492https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382492,from=rss#post382492quote:Gillans micstand wrote:   I happen to support a couple of unsigned virtusos like this guy. They are absoultely unreal, and untapped artists. I fully understand your point about "luck." Atleast thats waht I think you're on about. Ritchie uesed to talk in Rainbow, about how dumb lucky has has always been, especially in Purples first run. There's another guy I saw a little time back who played an acoustic in a similarly, perhaps even more amazing fashion. In fact better I think than the guy I just posted, it was truly amazing. Real jaw dropping stuff....like how the f*ck do you do that with an acoustic guitar........ I 've seen a few local players here who are JAzz players and these guys will play a descending bass line with an ascending lead line, again, clever stuff. Compared to Clapton, these guys take technique to a whole different level, and on pure technique, any of these guys wipe the floor with players like Clapton and Page, even his Holy-ness Pope Blackmore!!nondisclosed_email@example.com (BlackerThanNight)Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:12:16 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382449,from=rss#post382449https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382449,from=rss#post382449  I happen to support a couple of unsigned virtusos like this guy. They are absoultely unreal, and untapped artists. I fully understand your point about "luck." Atleast thats waht I think you're on about. Ritchie uesed to talk in Rainbow, about how dumb lucky has has always been, especially in Purples first run.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gillans micstand)Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:20:10 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382444,from=rss#post382444https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382444,from=rss#post382444Check out this guy, he puts Clapton, Blackmore, Beck, Pagey, YJM, Glover all to shame! He sh1ts over the lot of them, put together. This guy plays the lot all on one guitar, absolutely mental stuff. THe electric stuff gets irritating after a little( as does the acoustic as well !! ), but shows there's just no end to humans ability an determination to master their tools!! I bet this guy doesn't have a girlfriend either, coz he doesn't get out much I'd guess. YOUTUBE Guitar Player nondisclosed_email@example.com (BlackerThanNight)Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:09:59 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382374,from=rss#post382374https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382374,from=rss#post382374quote:Gillans micstand wrote: Well, now you have a new fact about that guitar to further investigate. I must have heard it 20 odd years ago, and hope I can remember who was talking about it. I'd say it inspired Ritchie to put the stud at the head stock of one of his Strats, to raise questions about what it does, and like he said, "I put it there to annoy people, which is what I live for..." (I think thats in a BN video, if I'm not mistaken) nondisclosed_email@example.com (Rezi)Wed, 25 Oct 2006 07:42:18 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382367,from=rss#post382367https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382367,from=rss#post382367Well, now you have a new fact about that guitar to further investigate. I must have heard it 20 odd years ago, and hope I can remember who was talking about it. I'd say it inspired Ritchie to put the stud at the head stock of one of his Strats, to raise questions about what it does, and like he said, "I put it there to annoy people, which is what I live for..." (I think thats in a BN video, if I'm not mistaken) nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gillans micstand)Wed, 25 Oct 2006 07:02:42 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382359,from=rss#post382359https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382359,from=rss#post382359quote:Gillans micstand wrote: quote:Rezi wrote: The story is told by Ian Hansford. Bloom doesn't relate to whether the story is from a new interview or an old one. Clapton's roadie's name is Mick Turner. Bloom also quotes RB, the one which I think was already in the Charlesworth book ("it had a bowed neck", "it had a great sound with the wah-wah" etc). Elsewhere, Simper claims RB ripped the Bigsby off his Gibson and bought an old Tele for the stage show, but I'm not sure if he really meant the Strat mentioned above (which had a Tele neck). I'm actually in about the middle of an Eric Clpaton book called "Slowhand" by Marc Roberty, and it's a killer read. The detail I was hoping you knew of, is the amount of switch nobs it was suposed to have had... somewhere around 100, is the number told. I wonder if that is true or not myself, but it's one of the descriptions of that guitar. That's all the info I got. Extra switch knobs? I can't think what they could do, except maybe run many pick-ups at the same time. But no, the only special features mentioned were the Tele neck and the bowed neck (the latter making me wonder why RN got it in the first place). nondisclosed_email@example.com (Rezi)Wed, 25 Oct 2006 06:37:06 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382254,from=rss#post382254https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382254,from=rss#post382254quote:Rezi wrote: The story is told by Ian Hansford. Bloom doesn't relate to whether the story is from a new interview or an old one. Clapton's roadie's name is Mick Turner. Bloom also quotes RB, the one which I think was already in the Charlesworth book ("it had a bowed neck", "it had a great sound with the wah-wah" etc). Elsewhere, Simper claims RB ripped the Bigsby off his Gibson and bought an old Tele for the stage show, but I'm not sure if he really meant the Strat mentioned above (which had a Tele neck). I'm actually in about the middle of an Eric Clpaton book called "Slowhand" by Marc Roberty, and it's a killer read. The detail I was hoping you knew of, is the amount of switch nobs it was suposed to have had... somewhere around 100, is the number told. I wonder if that is true or not myself, but it's one of the descriptions of that guitar. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gillans micstand)Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:04:49 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382203,from=rss#post382203https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382203,from=rss#post382203I dunno what 'all that' means in the above post? Clapton is not my hero or anything - in fact, earlier in the thread I said that for the last 30 years, on record, he has been pretty boring. But I also said that you shouldn't ignore the influence his playing had in the '60s. You can't just dismiss him because he didn't use his little finger (- damn that 'little finger', it's partly responsible for shredding!). Clapton's 'specific way of playing' was copied by lots of guitarists here and in the States, learning the licks by heart, not because they were easy but because they sounded so good. I think it's a tad sad that alot of guitarists nowadays prefer to cite the likes of Hendrix as their main influence, because that sounds 'cool', or pre-Clapton players, and they don't give the guy the respect he deserves.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Dartagnan)Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:51:52 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382198,from=rss#post382198https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382198,from=rss#post382198quote:Dartagnan wrote: Well, it was you mentioning technique that encouraged me to respond in the way I did! Like I wrote before ......if you think Clapton is "all that" well that's up to you and good luck.........me I'll stick with my own view which is that his technique is average and I find his playing verging on "dull". He plays the "3 fingered wonder style" which leads to a specific technique and a way of playing. If you think that represents a good technique, then splendid, personally again I don't. Rezi:I'd rather hear anyone play normally, even Clapton, over any of the "shredders", anyday!! Shredding is just the "my c*cks bigger then yours" trick of the guitar world, amusing at first but tedious within a few minutes. It is surpassed for it's tediousness only by "pinch harmonics" so favoured by Zak Wylde and other equally unsavoury characters. nondisclosed_email@example.com (BlackerThanNight)Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:19:08 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382191,from=rss#post382191https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382191,from=rss#post382191The story is told by Ian Hansford. Bloom doesn't relate to whether the story is from a new interview or an old one. Clapton's roadie's name is Mick Turner. Bloom also quotes RB, the one which I think was already in the Charlesworth book ("it had a bowed neck", "it had a great sound with the wah-wah" etc). Elsewhere, Simper claims RB ripped the Bigsby off his Gibson and bought an old Tele for the stage show, but I'm not sure if he really meant the Strat mentioned above (which had a Tele neck). nondisclosed_email@example.com (Rezi)Tue, 24 Oct 2006 11:39:58 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382174,from=rss#post382174https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382174,from=rss#post382174Nice to see that story in an unauthorised book, and it doesn't mean they didn't come up on the same streets, in and out of the same pubs, and see each other all the time. About the guitar, what else can you tell us about it? There is one interesting detail. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gillans micstand)Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:39:20 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382172,from=rss#post382172https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382172,from=rss#post382172quote:Gillans micstand wrote: Funny thing about Blackmore and Clapton, because he was given his very first Strat from EC According to the new RB biography, Clapton gave the Strat (the one seen in the inner sleeve of BOT, sporting a Telecaster neck) to one of his roadies, who in turn sold the guitar to RB. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Rezi)Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:23:00 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382171,from=rss#post382171https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382171,from=rss#post382171I have to chime in on this one... so Doogie doesn't like Clapton, big deal, he wouldn't hold anything against anyone who finds him brilliant. Funny thing about Blackmore and Clapton, because he was given his very first Strat from EC, used to play all the time with him at Big Jim's place, learned alot of the same licks around the same time, and are a part of the same era of virtuosos. The problem started when Cream kicked them off the tour... Eric started to take notice to Ritchie adding bits of classics to their long jams, something to do with heavily controlling their crowd into a frenzy, before quieting them down, and then pouncing them with "God Saved The Queen" or something. After that, they took seperate paths, and were no longer seeing eye to eye. Eric with his blues glue, and Blackmore reinventing himself time and again, and taking the blues to his own level, instead of paying homage to it's dinosaurs. I think Ritchie only knocks on Eric, cause he is far less technical, cause thats all he can really criticize. Thats where the funny part comes in, as thats like Yngwie knocking Morse for his bravado, and really, if you think about it, "technique" is one area, no matter how tech Ritchie can get, he will never have anything on Morse in that department, and who cares about "technique" so much then????nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gillans micstand)Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:18:23 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382156,from=rss#post382156https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382156,from=rss#post382156quote:Dartagnan wrote: quote:BlackerThanNight wrote: Clapton has never been more an a low average, in terms of technique, maybe he appeals in other ways to other people, to me.... he's dull! Well, it was you mentioning technique that encouraged me to respond in the way I did!   I'll take Clapton over any "shredder" anyday. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Rezi)Tue, 24 Oct 2006 06:19:42 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382131,from=rss#post382131https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382131,from=rss#post382131quote:Diostillrocks wrote: It was Awaken. Probably my favorite Yes song from the 70's. I never saw this tribute album in stores. I do have the CD and I see it quite often in stores, but it's not great. Doogie does a good job on the vocals of Awaken, but it's not the full song, the version is only about 6mins long.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Beese)Tue, 24 Oct 2006 02:07:43 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382097,from=rss#post382097https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382097,from=rss#post382097quote:BlackerThanNight wrote: Clapton has never been more an a low average, in terms of technique, maybe he appeals in other ways to other people, to me.... he's dull! Well, it was you mentioning technique that encouraged me to respond in the way I did!   nondisclosed_email@example.com (Dartagnan)Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:39:21 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382063,from=rss#post382063https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382063,from=rss#post382063quote:Dartagnan wrote: In your humble opinion again, no doubt? Your previous negative comment about Clapton's technique leads me to wonder if you have ever picked up a guitar!   If Clapton impresses you then that's fine with me, each to their own. Personally he has never impressed me, I don't like his playing, I don't much like sound, especially the Cream stuff, some of which was very very basic and not really much better for it, in my view. However I don't see what relation any of that bares to whether or not I have ever picked up a guitar? I certianly didn't think "Clapton is so great I must learn to play guitar like that".......eh no, no way. Apart from anything else I have NO respect for ANY musician( or anyone else ) who stuffs him self full of drink/drugs, it's an entirely pathetic approach to life. After they've f*cked themselves up with that they make a "come back" and everyone is suppsed to be impressed. Totall sh1t for sure !! nondisclosed_email@example.com (BlackerThanNight)Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:30:07 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382003,from=rss#post382003https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382003,from=rss#post382003quote:BlackerThanNight wrote: .............then again I wondered if he was basically just so dull he'd get the slow clap! In your humble opinion again, no doubt? Your previous negative comment about Clapton's technique leads me to wonder if you have ever picked up a guitar!   nondisclosed_email@example.com (Dartagnan)Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:50:41 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382000,from=rss#post382000https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p382000,from=rss#post382000quote:Big J wrote: quote:Diostillrocks wrote: He is called slowhand for a reason. He plays slow. And that's not the reason.... He used to break strings on a regular basis and the audience would slow hand clap while the string was being replaced. That sounds much more likely .............then again I wondered if he was basically just so dull he'd get the slow clap! nondisclosed_email@example.com (BlackerThanNight)Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:38:52 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p381989,from=rss#post381989https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p381989,from=rss#post381989quote:Diostillrocks wrote: He is called slowhand for a reason. He plays slow. And that's not the reason.... He used to break strings on a regular basis and the audience would slow hand clap while the string was being replaced. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Big J)Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:19:07 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p381970,from=rss#post381970https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p381970,from=rss#post381970I agree up to a point that it's subjective, but I don't think anyone could deny that Clapton had a massive influence on guitarists in the '60s. I can only suggest that if you haven't heard Bluesbreakers with Eric Clapton from 1966, then you really should (more famously known as the Beano album, 'cos Clapton's reading The Beano on the front cover). Listen to Clapton playing his Les Paul through a Marshall at vol. 11, then point me to an album prior to that with a similar impact, tone, technique and feeling - where the electric guitar is concerned. There isn't one. The guy was basically untouchable at that time, and there's no doubt that he was a major, major influence on what came after - hard rock/heavy rock, whatever you want to call it. Clapton basically reinvented the blues over here in the UK, and sold it back to the States! Dull!!! No way! Not back then in the '60s.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Dartagnan)Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:56:17 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p381969,from=rss#post381969https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p381969,from=rss#post381969quote:Beese wrote: quote:David Meadows wrote: What song(s) did you perform on the Yes tribute? It's difficult to picture you as Jon Anderson It's Awaken I believe. AMG claims that Doogie did a version of Owner Of A Lonely Heart with Rick on keys on another tribute album, but that doesn't seem to be listed on site. It was Awaken. Probably my favorite Yes song from the 70's. I never saw this tribute album in stores. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Diostillrocks)Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:55:26 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p381967,from=rss#post381967https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p381967,from=rss#post381967Who is a good guitarist is subjective. Clapton is a good guitarist. His style just is not for everyone. He is called slowhand for a reason. He plays slow. His solo career is follows an American blues combined with country path. It didn't have the energy of his Cream material or Derek and the Dominos days.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Diostillrocks)Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:42:38 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p381960,from=rss#post381960https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p381960,from=rss#post381960Me thinks that even Ritchie would agree that Clapton had 'it' in the '60s. Early Clapton recorded some great stuff, and I truly believe that TMIB has his tongue firmly in his cheek about Clapton when he gave his opinion. Now if you're talking about Clapton for the last 30 years, then no question, he is pretty boring on record. Personally, I don't care much for Angus Young, and besides, isn't the foundation of AC/DC really down to Malcolm Young, who whose rythmn playing is the real rock of the AC/DC sound- in my humble opinion? Am I really the only bloke round here that doesn't own an AC/DC recording? Jeff Beck and Rory Gallagher - totally agree.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Dartagnan)Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:49:17 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p381927,from=rss#post381927https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p381927,from=rss#post381927Clapton is a genius. Angus? hmmmmmm nondisclosed_email@example.com (Knopflers Fingers)Sun, 22 Oct 2006 22:55:35 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p381925,from=rss#post381925https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p381925,from=rss#post381925Doogie- Drinks on me next time your in Miam-uh...Our guitarist friend invited, too. Cheers! nondisclosed_email@example.com (PTsTP)Sun, 22 Oct 2006 22:34:15 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p381873,from=rss#post381873https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p381873,from=rss#post381873quote:David Meadows wrote: What song(s) did you perform on the Yes tribute? It's difficult to picture you as Jon Anderson It's Awaken I believe. AMG claims that Doogie did a version of Owner Of A Lonely Heart with Rick on keys on another tribute album, but that doesn't seem to be listed on site.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Beese)Sun, 22 Oct 2006 04:04:21 +0000 Re: well? you might be interested?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p381869,from=rss#post381869https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p381869,from=rss#post381869Last word on this from me. I do not and never have enjoyed the White Noise DVD. The sound is flat and dry. The bonus items are just not there and as for dropping in rehearsal footage over the breakdown section in Ariel...well..unforgivable really. I did request my input on the mixing after hearing the roughs, normally I would leave such a task to those who do that kinda thing but the quality was so poor I spoke up. The company went ahead and mixed it anyway without further consultation, which would have been a courtesy rather than anything else. But it still left me cold.... and pissed off. Of course it would be financially beneficial for me to say how great this..in the hope that people would buy it ...sadly it is not. Oh I feel such a martyr now...A burdon lifted. Enjoy Sunday. And if EC does it for you great. I'll be listening to Rory, Torme, Beck, Angus, TMIB.....yep thought ya might. PLG DTW nondisclosed_email@example.com (DouglasT)Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:31:16 +0000