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I think Simon McBride is doing a sound job playing the old guys stuff with respect.They needed a guy to do a two year job? , Gillan and Airey have played with him before so it all makes sense, to me anyway. If they make an album and it is on a par with Now What and the best of the other two, I will be happy.



A sound job doesn't really cut it for DP IMHO?
DP were always about true virtuosity ie not a gig that just any half decent banjo player could do.




I agree, Deep Purple is one of the greatest rock band, just because you are hired by Don Airey and Ian Gillan, probably after a drinking session at a bar somewhere and that's enough to be part of the of Purple great four? That's Blackmore, Morse, Bolin and Satriani.

Who's next if McBride leaves? Tony Flynn? Dot Wiggins?

With McBride, the standards for replacement has gone down. Now anybody can be a Deep Purple in my humble opinion.
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Actually - I find this a bit.... insulting. Let´s agree that Simon McBride is not "big name" guitarist. But it is not and never was about "big name". I remember when Don explained to us (when we did interview with him) how he met Simon about ten years ago and how he blew him away (and you probably know list of players Don worked with in the past, so its not easy to amaze him). Basically - he is closest guitar player to his beloved Gary Moore he ever heard of - and from Don, its MASSIVE compliment! So its absolutely NOT true that "anybody can be in Deep Purple" - you must be damn superb musician (and good guy) to be invited. And by the way - despite the fact, that Don´s solo band plays in clubs and pubs during their tours, his bands is ALWAYS group of top-class musicians - something Ritchie should follow (and sadly did not) with so-called Rainbow.



Ptr, in my opinion, it is convinient for them to get Simon. Come on Don Airey has somehow worked with a lot of guitarists like Ritchie Blackmore, Jake E Lee, Michael Schenker, Uli Jon Roth, John Sykes, and many many many other guitarists and he was not blown away by them and Simon is the only one aside from Gary Moore??? Thats diplomacy ptr, Don is not going to slam their new and very young guitarist. Right?

What if it's Doug Aldrich who works and play with Don Airey and Ian Gillan and "not" Simon McBride. Who are they gonna get? Aldrich or McBride? Your answer is as good as mine.
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No! Don introduced us Simon McBride by those words in 2015, 7 years ago. And once again, I repeat, when we saw him for the first time at that time, opinion among us (group of fans) was the same - "we just saw probable new guitar player if Steve would be forced to leave because of his wrist issue...." We never told it about his other guitar player (which we saw probably three times before Simon), I never thought it about Doug Aldrich (actually - imagining HIM with Deep Purple cause me nausea, Simon is MUCH better fit than Doug). BTW - Ian never suggested Steve Morris or any other of his guitar players he ever cooperated during solo career, to become Deep Purple guitarist, so - your question is just plain wrong.
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Simon is a reality check that the band is getting old and…

…they want someone who adapts to them, and not them adapting to someone
…they can only offer a couple of years of work
…they value personal affinity more than musical excellence (and by that I mean the very high standards set by previous guitarists in terms of being innovators and hugely recognizable - even today, guitar magazines regularly have columns on how to play like Ritchie or Steve, or review Joe and remember Tommy…call me a cynic, I don’t see that happening 20 years down the road with Simon, although I wish him the best because it is one hell of an opportunity for him)

So it is what they should be advised to do, but it makes it very difficult to go out with a bang, unless Simon has a lot to say as a songwriter.



Wow, I´m really stunned by this point of view....
- how surprising it is, that band with 54 years career "expect" that guitar player who is supposed to join them, is going to adapt to THEM and not otherwise....
- you would decline offer from Deep Purple (one of greatest bands in rock history) to play with them, because they dont offer long enough perspective after 54 years long career? Are you joking?
- no, they request both! One man (whose "comeback" is regularly requested by delusional fans) fails in both!



I called it a reality check - do you normally expect those to surprise and stun you? And where exactly did I say that Simon should not have accepted? Read carefully, that’s quite the opposite of what I wrote.
I hope you did not count me among the “delusional fans” hoping for some comeback, because it would mark your third text comprehension mistake in what is after all a fairly short comment.

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Simon is a reality check that the band is getting old and…

…they want someone who adapts to them, and not them adapting to someone
…they can only offer a couple of years of work
…they value personal affinity more than musical excellence (and by that I mean the very high standards set by previous guitarists in terms of being innovators and hugely recognizable - even today, guitar magazines regularly have columns on how to play like Ritchie or Steve, or review Joe and remember Tommy…call me a cynic, I don’t see that happening 20 years down the road with Simon, although I wish him the best because it is one hell of an opportunity for him)

So it is what they should be advised to do, but it makes it very difficult to go out with a bang, unless Simon has a lot to say as a songwriter.



Wow, I´m really stunned by this point of view....
- how surprising it is, that band with 54 years career "expect" that guitar player who is supposed to join them, is going to adapt to THEM and not otherwise....
- you would decline offer from Deep Purple (one of greatest bands in rock history) to play with them, because they dont offer long enough perspective after 54 years long career? Are you joking?
- no, they request both! One man (whose "comeback" is regularly requested by delusional fans) fails in both!



I called it a reality check - do you normally expect those to surprise and stun you? And where exactly did I say that Simon should not have accepted? Read carefully, that’s quite the opposite of what I wrote.
I hope you did not count me among the “delusional fans” hoping for some comeback, because it would mark your third text comprehension mistake in what is after all a fairly short comment.




1.) By delusional fan I meant generaly anyone (and I dont mean anyone particular - not you or any particular person on this forum) who is calling for "great reunion with RB" - but when Simon joined I read numerous questions like "why they didnt ask Ritchie?"...

2.) I would like to know why you think, that if they were younger, they would ask someone else than Simon (let´s consider that the situation would be the SAME, just age would be different, lets say 15 years younger). I dont think it plays role here. Maybe that Simon will be able to extend life-span of this band for few more years with his young energy and possibly creative impact. Time will tell... Let´s be frank - this band is outliving any imaginable expectations we ever had - since 2009 I´m attending their shows with "expectation" this was possibly the last one and when IG did his Gillan´s Inn album - I was afraid he mean it as his farewell. I dont believe that any fans in 90s (when RB left) could even imagine, that band would still be here in early 2020s, with many more albums and tours done.
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ptr wrote:

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mtb7 wrote:

Simon is a reality check that the band is getting old and…

…they want someone who adapts to them, and not them adapting to someone
…they can only offer a couple of years of work
…they value personal affinity more than musical excellence (and by that I mean the very high standards set by previous guitarists in terms of being innovators and hugely recognizable - even today, guitar magazines regularly have columns on how to play like Ritchie or Steve, or review Joe and remember Tommy…call me a cynic, I don’t see that happening 20 years down the road with Simon, although I wish him the best because it is one hell of an opportunity for him)

So it is what they should be advised to do, but it makes it very difficult to go out with a bang, unless Simon has a lot to say as a songwriter.



Wow, I´m really stunned by this point of view....
- how surprising it is, that band with 54 years career "expect" that guitar player who is supposed to join them, is going to adapt to THEM and not otherwise....
- you would decline offer from Deep Purple (one of greatest bands in rock history) to play with them, because they dont offer long enough perspective after 54 years long career? Are you joking?
- no, they request both! One man (whose "comeback" is regularly requested by delusional fans) fails in both!



I called it a reality check - do you normally expect those to surprise and stun you? And where exactly did I say that Simon should not have accepted? Read carefully, that’s quite the opposite of what I wrote.
I hope you did not count me among the “delusional fans” hoping for some comeback, because it would mark your third text comprehension mistake in what is after all a fairly short comment.




1.) By delusional fan I meant generaly anyone (and I dont mean anyone particular - not you or any particular person on this forum) who is calling for "great reunion with RB" - but when Simon joined I read numerous questions like "why they didnt ask Ritchie?"...

2.) I would like to know why you think, that if they were younger, they would ask someone else than Simon (let´s consider that the situation would be the SAME, just age would be different, lets say 15 years younger). I dont think it plays role here. Maybe that Simon will be able to extend life-span of this band for few more years with his young energy and possibly creative impact. Time will tell... Let´s be frank - this band is outliving any imaginable expectations we ever had - since 2009 I´m attending their shows with "expectation" this was possibly the last one and when IG did his Gillan´s Inn album - I was afraid he mean it as his farewell. I dont believe that any fans in 90s (when RB left) could even imagine, that band would still be here in early 2020s, with many more albums and tours done.



Don't recall anyone saying Blackers should be asked back into DP??
Ritchie is well past his best sadly, just like Ian Gillanemoticon
To mention people being deluded i think you need to look closer to home mate as anyone who persists with the notion that Ian Gillan can still cut it live as the singer of a legendary rock band like DP is DELUDED!!!

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Simon is a reality check that the band is getting old and…

…they want someone who adapts to them, and not them adapting to someone
…they can only offer a couple of years of work
…they value personal affinity more than musical excellence (and by that I mean the very high standards set by previous guitarists in terms of being innovators and hugely recognizable - even today, guitar magazines regularly have columns on how to play like Ritchie or Steve, or review Joe and remember Tommy…call me a cynic, I don’t see that happening 20 years down the road with Simon, although I wish him the best because it is one hell of an opportunity for him)

So it is what they should be advised to do, but it makes it very difficult to go out with a bang, unless Simon has a lot to say as a songwriter.



Wow, I´m really stunned by this point of view....
- how surprising it is, that band with 54 years career "expect" that guitar player who is supposed to join them, is going to adapt to THEM and not otherwise....
- you would decline offer from Deep Purple (one of greatest bands in rock history) to play with them, because they dont offer long enough perspective after 54 years long career? Are you joking?
- no, they request both! One man (whose "comeback" is regularly requested by delusional fans) fails in both!



I called it a reality check - do you normally expect those to surprise and stun you? And where exactly did I say that Simon should not have accepted? Read carefully, that’s quite the opposite of what I wrote.
I hope you did not count me among the “delusional fans” hoping for some comeback, because it would mark your third text comprehension mistake in what is after all a fairly short comment.




1.) By delusional fan I meant generaly anyone (and I dont mean anyone particular - not you or any particular person on this forum) who is calling for "great reunion with RB" - but when Simon joined I read numerous questions like "why they didnt ask Ritchie?"...

2.) I would like to know why you think, that if they were younger, they would ask someone else than Simon (let´s consider that the situation would be the SAME, just age would be different, lets say 15 years younger). I dont think it plays role here. Maybe that Simon will be able to extend life-span of this band for few more years with his young energy and possibly creative impact. Time will tell... Let´s be frank - this band is outliving any imaginable expectations we ever had - since 2009 I´m attending their shows with "expectation" this was possibly the last one and when IG did his Gillan´s Inn album - I was afraid he mean it as his farewell. I dont believe that any fans in 90s (when RB left) could even imagine, that band would still be here in early 2020s, with many more albums and tours done.



Don't recall anyone saying Blackers should be asked back into DP??
Ritchie is well past his best sadly, just like Ian Gillanemoticon
To mention people being deluded i think you need to look closer to home mate as anyone who persists with the notion that Ian Gillan can still cut it live as the singer of a legendary rock band like DP is DELUDED!!!




Did you read comments under DP fb sites when they announced Steve is stepping back and Simon is coming? They was a stuff like "why not Ritchie?" etc.
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ptr wrote:

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mtb7 wrote:

Simon is a reality check that the band is getting old and…

…they want someone who adapts to them, and not them adapting to someone
…they can only offer a couple of years of work
…they value personal affinity more than musical excellence (and by that I mean the very high standards set by previous guitarists in terms of being innovators and hugely recognizable - even today, guitar magazines regularly have columns on how to play like Ritchie or Steve, or review Joe and remember Tommy…call me a cynic, I don’t see that happening 20 years down the road with Simon, although I wish him the best because it is one hell of an opportunity for him)

So it is what they should be advised to do, but it makes it very difficult to go out with a bang, unless Simon has a lot to say as a songwriter.



Wow, I´m really stunned by this point of view....
- how surprising it is, that band with 54 years career "expect" that guitar player who is supposed to join them, is going to adapt to THEM and not otherwise....
- you would decline offer from Deep Purple (one of greatest bands in rock history) to play with them, because they dont offer long enough perspective after 54 years long career? Are you joking?
- no, they request both! One man (whose "comeback" is regularly requested by delusional fans) fails in both!



I called it a reality check - do you normally expect those to surprise and stun you? And where exactly did I say that Simon should not have accepted? Read carefully, that’s quite the opposite of what I wrote.
I hope you did not count me among the “delusional fans” hoping for some comeback, because it would mark your third text comprehension mistake in what is after all a fairly short comment.




1.) By delusional fan I meant generaly anyone (and I dont mean anyone particular - not you or any particular person on this forum) who is calling for "great reunion with RB" - but when Simon joined I read numerous questions like "why they didnt ask Ritchie?"...

2.) I would like to know why you think, that if they were younger, they would ask someone else than Simon (let´s consider that the situation would be the SAME, just age would be different, lets say 15 years younger). I dont think it plays role here. Maybe that Simon will be able to extend life-span of this band for few more years with his young energy and possibly creative impact. Time will tell... Let´s be frank - this band is outliving any imaginable expectations we ever had - since 2009 I´m attending their shows with "expectation" this was possibly the last one and when IG did his Gillan´s Inn album - I was afraid he mean it as his farewell. I dont believe that any fans in 90s (when RB left) could even imagine, that band would still be here in early 2020s, with many more albums and tours done.



Don't recall anyone saying Blackers should be asked back into DP??
Ritchie is well past his best sadly, just like Ian Gillanemoticon
To mention people being deluded i think you need to look closer to home mate as anyone who persists with the notion that Ian Gillan can still cut it live as the singer of a legendary rock band like DP is DELUDED!!!




Did you read comments under DP fb sites when they announced Steve is stepping back and Simon is coming? They was a stuff like "why not Ritchie?" etc.



Nope dont follow DP on facebook, i was talking about on this site mate.
Clearly only people who haven't kept up with Blackmore would tout him to take over at DP again as his last Rainbow outings clearly demonstrated that hes no longer got the chops to pull it off.
Now if i as a huge Blackmore fan(also a huge Ian Gillan fan) can admit to that, then why do you persist with your assertions that Ian Gillan can still cut it live when he quite clearly CANT.
Just let the sentimentality go mate it will do you good

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bumping this...

any news/rumblings?
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