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BlueWhite77
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Re: Ronnie Romero
I think quite a few here are a bit harsh on RR.
I saw him in Bietigheim in 2016 and was quite impressed how he could deliver the parts of some of the great vocalists of the bygone era when Hard Rock was something big and innovative. Within just half an hour he delivered trademark songs of Dio, Coverdale, Bonnet and Gillan nailing the ones by the first three really well (his raspy voice doesn't do him a favour for Gillan tracks). Don't think that there are so many who can do this. So I definitely don't concur with the "one dimensional" verdict.
What's more, he came across very positively, he had contact with the audience instantly; in my opinion he was vital in these "Rainbow" shows being so well received (at least by the people who were there).
Having said that, his problem becomes apparent: once you hit the big stage for the first time as a replacement for so many of the big names - of course you will be perceived as the cover singer. And - looking at his output the last five years, he probably didn't create too much of an own trademark.
But - who does this nowadays anyway? The 70's were the time for the hard rock singers where they did define their genre; the early 80s were the time for the HM singers. And since then? Is there really so much new? What are the big singers you immediately recognize who started in the last years?
So I'm not waiting nervously for new RR releases but I can listen well to his output and recognize the references he builds into his performances - either on purpose or involuntarily.
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5/7/2022, 9:29
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Gatts888
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BlueWhite77 wrote: in my opinion he was vital in these "Rainbow" shows being so well received (at least by the people who were there).
In what shape or form were the 2016 and beyond Rainbow shows "so well received"? Apart from the very hardcore, they have been almost unanimously poorly received with the only thing having received praise are Romero's vocals despite the tired and plodding band and powerless renditions of the songs.
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7/7/2022, 6:46
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BlueWhite77
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Re: Ronnie Romero
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BlueWhite77 wrote: in my opinion he was vital in these "Rainbow" shows being so well received (at least by the people who were there).
In what shape or form were the 2016 and beyond Rainbow shows "so well received"? Apart from the very hardcore, they have been almost unanimously poorly received with the only thing having received praise are Romero's vocals despite the tired and plodding band and powerless renditions of the songs.
Well, in the venues. I was in Bietigheim and the crowd there was happy - including me. Was it on a musically comparable Level to other Rainbow incarnations? Sure not! But was there a good vibe? Sure! And this vibe was - to a good extent - due to RR.
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7/7/2022, 11:30
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mtb7
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Having been to Lorelei, Bietigheim and Prague, I can confirm the crowds were much happier than what you would think reading on the internet. There was a sense of the uniqueness of the event, nostalgia and people having a good time, whereas online it was more of a mix of disappointment and downright animosity against this project. Criticism has its place and was in many instances justified, but there is a surplus of cynicism on the internet that is not really what I would associate with fans.
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7/7/2022, 21:11
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fdr
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This is true. But. I was in Bietigheim in 2016, I'm happy I went and I was happy then at the end of the show, mainly because of the affection I feel for the man. But this doesn't blind me from the fact that, musically, the show was quite poor. I thought this then and I still think it now.
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7/7/2022, 22:57
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Desperateheart
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mtb7 wrote:
Having been to Lorelei, Bietigheim and Prague, I can confirm the crowds were much happier than what you would think reading on the internet. There was a sense of the uniqueness of the event, nostalgia and people having a good time, whereas online it was more of a mix of disappointment and downright animosity against this project. Criticism has its place and was in many instances justified, but there is a surplus of cynicism on the internet that is not really what I would associate with fans.
i was at all those shows too, and would agree with you.
many of the criticims were valid but some simply toxic, for whatever reason. Am i glad the shows went ahead? I guess so, going to Prague, Loreley are great experiences in themselves aside from seeing RB playing live.
The truth is however, if he was going to do these shows he should have done them at least 5-10 years earlier.
with whom as a singer i dunno....
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8/7/2022, 10:14
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Perfectly Strange
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mtb7 wrote:
Having been to Lorelei, Bietigheim and Prague, I can confirm the crowds were much happier than what you would think reading on the internet. There was a sense of the uniqueness of the event, nostalgia and people having a good time, whereas online it was more of a mix of disappointment and downright animosity against this project. Criticism has its place and was in many instances justified, but there is a surplus of cynicism on the internet that is not really what I would associate with fans.
i was at all those shows too, and would agree with you.
many of the criticims were valid but some simply toxic, for whatever reason. Am i glad the shows went ahead? I guess so, going to Prague, Loreley are great experiences in themselves aside from seeing RB playing live.
The truth is however, if he was going to do these shows he should have done them at least 5-10 years earlier.
with whom as a singer i dunno....
I went to both Birmingham shows. The anticipation at the first was immense. It was fairly obvious that the band wasn't great but, well, It's Ritchie playing rock so I really enjoyed it. The live experience i.e. Volume covers a multitude of sins! It was only when I listened to the gig on the CD that I fully appreciated the deficiencies and the rather generic singing (not least RR's pronunciation) so approached the second gig with a more critical eye & ear and, quite frankly, it was average at best. Has there been a worse live release sanctioned by RB than these gigs?
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12/7/2022, 12:44
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ptr
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I was in Prague and there were a moments which were just weird, almost embarassing. First - when Ritchie "hinted" playing Temple Of The King and crowd possibly knew words better than Romero... and Second - very abrupt Ritchie´s way of ending of Smoke at the end of main set.
But despite all of that, I would actually say, that Romero (with the fact he is average and quite generic singer) was the best thing on "Rainbow"... which says a lot about quality of that lineup of band which hopefully doesnt exist anymore.
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1/8/2022, 20:10
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mtb7
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I may be wrong, but I think the abrupt ending had to do with regulations and the fact it was already past 11 PM…these days, it’s not like you can play beyond the allotted time at these volumes without local authorities fining you.
Iron Maiden were to play here in Italy a few weeks ago and after accumulating 30 minutes of delay at the start because of the weather, they cancelled in all likelihood because they were not allowed to play after 11 anyway, since the weather was by then stabilizing.
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1/8/2022, 20:25
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purpelaar
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Re: Ronnie Romero
I thought ROY KHAN was excellent.
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5/9/2022, 15:14
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