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Listen Learn Read On
Lalena
Anyone's Daughter
You Cant Do it right
Holy Man
Hold On
Love Don't mean a thing
Mitzi Dupree



Shows just how much tastes can differ. All of those are some of my favorite songs by the band.




Agree 100%. Some of my favourite DP songs in this list.
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Listen Learn Read On
Lalena
Anyone's Daughter
You Cant Do it right
Holy Man
Hold On
Love Don't mean a thing
Mitzi Dupree
Lick it Up
Whatersname
She Was
Evil Louie
Walk On
Razzle Dazzle
Picture of innocence
Monkey Talks
Girls Like That
Wrong Man
Don't Let Go
Step by Step

probably missed some



Anyone's Daughter
Holy Man
Mitzi Dupree
Walk On
Monkey Talks
Wrong Man
Step by Step

I would put these on larger "best-of" compilation!
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lightintheblack0 wrote:

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lightintheblack0 wrote:

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JSA1 wrote:

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lightintheblack0 wrote:

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JSA1 wrote:

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intothefire1969 wrote:

Ian Gillan sings Nessum Dorma , double A side single. The definitive version with very special guest performance. Maybe with a bonus, one of the many performances of "smoke" the guest singer witnessed.
Perhaps with a bonus insert with quotes from Pavarotti "the nights I sung with Ian Gillan"



I think that it would have been much better had it happened in 1970. Not bad, but certainly not the definitive version.



No doubt about that JSA1 ,the things is Ian Gillan IMHO was every bit as talented as Pavarotti in his own field, but unfortunately he never looked after his gift and he blew his voice out way too soon.Pavarotti on the other hand looked after his gift till the end .The video demonstrates that perfectly in that Pavarotti was 10 years Ians senior and he blew him away.




The real problem was that he kept blowing his voice out. First, not listening to his doctors and joining Sabbath. Next, going right into the Purple reunion from the Sabs without rest. Got axed. Got some of his voice back and put out some good albums and concerts, but started screaming more and then back with the Purps. Something about Ian and Purple. He seemed to beat his voice up. Maybe trying to match Blackers, doing those high energy HS kind of tunes. He seemed to get much better for a while after Morse joined, but he just can't help that scream-fest stuff. I've always been a fan and he is the person who got me into Purple because of JCSS. It's just a shame how he didn't take care of the beautiful voice he had. emoticon




Totally agree JSA1, shame really but i guess the lifestyle of a Rock star is different from that of an opera star.
Gillans drinking and smoking im sure had an effect as well.
There is youtube footage from Japan in 78 of early Gillan the band with Steve Byrd on guitar, and vocally Ian is very much the Gillan from 70s DP, but even by the Glory Road tour in 1980 the damage was beginning to show on Ians vocals ,he was still a great singer back then but part of the top end had gone and his voice had become more nasal IMHO



One might even go back earlier to 1973 when Ian's stamina/top end started to dip. Case in point he couldn't sustain "the scream" in Strange Kind of Woman" NY show in 4/5 1973 vs SKOW in MIJ 1972.



Possibly? but I always put that particular 73 performance down to it being a tired dispirited Gillan, perhaps due to the by then huge tensions in the band?He looked shattered and somewhat unwell at that show IMHO
He was still singing brilliantly and hitting all the notes in the IGB, i personally didn't really notice a big change until the Glory Road tour.



I wasn't a big fan of IGB. I thought that his chords had tightened up a bit from inactivity. He worked his way back into decent shape, but he was still a bit harsh on the real high stuff. Early Gillan stuff was excellent and I even think up through Magic he sounded pretty good, although he was starting to lose his resonance and upper register by then. You can check out some of his performances from that era on YouTube. You can hear why his doctors wanted him to get some work done on his chords and to rest. Alas, not to be. emoticon
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intothefire1969 wrote:

Ian Gillan sings Nessum Dorma , double A side single. The definitive version with very special guest performance. Maybe with a bonus, one of the many performances of "smoke" the guest singer witnessed.
Perhaps with a bonus insert with quotes from Pavarotti "the nights I sung with Ian Gillan"



I think that it would have been much better had it happened in 1970. Not bad, but certainly not the definitive version.



No doubt about that JSA1 ,the things is Ian Gillan IMHO was every bit as talented as Pavarotti in his own field, but unfortunately he never looked after his gift and he blew his voice out way too soon.Pavarotti on the other hand looked after his gift till the end .The video demonstrates that perfectly in that Pavarotti was 10 years Ians senior and he blew him away.



I see that the Hofstra show has been brought up by nyfan2. Not enough of the concert was saved to make an enlightened and informed opinion. I thought that IG sounded pretty good. A bit rough on the real high parts, but still pretty good. I would have liked to hear CIT and SK from that show. On Gillan's final concert with DP in Japan, he sounds decent. His voice seemed a bit tired, but he was singing with plenty of energy. I think that it is a real nice recording. A good end of an era.
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JSA1 wrote:

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lightintheblack0 wrote:

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nyfan2 wrote:

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lightintheblack0 wrote:

quote:

JSA1 wrote:

quote:

lightintheblack0 wrote:

quote:

JSA1 wrote:

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intothefire1969 wrote:

Ian Gillan sings Nessum Dorma , double A side single. The definitive version with very special guest performance. Maybe with a bonus, one of the many performances of "smoke" the guest singer witnessed.
Perhaps with a bonus insert with quotes from Pavarotti "the nights I sung with Ian Gillan"



I think that it would have been much better had it happened in 1970. Not bad, but certainly not the definitive version.



No doubt about that JSA1 ,the things is Ian Gillan IMHO was every bit as talented as Pavarotti in his own field, but unfortunately he never looked after his gift and he blew his voice out way too soon.Pavarotti on the other hand looked after his gift till the end .The video demonstrates that perfectly in that Pavarotti was 10 years Ians senior and he blew him away.




The real problem was that he kept blowing his voice out. First, not listening to his doctors and joining Sabbath. Next, going right into the Purple reunion from the Sabs without rest. Got axed. Got some of his voice back and put out some good albums and concerts, but started screaming more and then back with the Purps. Something about Ian and Purple. He seemed to beat his voice up. Maybe trying to match Blackers, doing those high energy HS kind of tunes. He seemed to get much better for a while after Morse joined, but he just can't help that scream-fest stuff. I've always been a fan and he is the person who got me into Purple because of JCSS. It's just a shame how he didn't take care of the beautiful voice he had. emoticon




Totally agree JSA1, shame really but i guess the lifestyle of a Rock star is different from that of an opera star.
Gillans drinking and smoking im sure had an effect as well.
There is youtube footage from Japan in 78 of early Gillan the band with Steve Byrd on guitar, and vocally Ian is very much the Gillan from 70s DP, but even by the Glory Road tour in 1980 the damage was beginning to show on Ians vocals ,he was still a great singer back then but part of the top end had gone and his voice had become more nasal IMHO



One might even go back earlier to 1973 when Ian's stamina/top end started to dip. Case in point he couldn't sustain "the scream" in Strange Kind of Woman" NY show in 4/5 1973 vs SKOW in MIJ 1972.



Possibly? but I always put that particular 73 performance down to it being a tired dispirited Gillan, perhaps due to the by then huge tensions in the band?He looked shattered and somewhat unwell at that show IMHO
He was still singing brilliantly and hitting all the notes in the IGB, i personally didn't really notice a big change until the Glory Road tour.



I wasn't a big fan of IGB. I thought that his chords had tightened up a bit from inactivity. He worked his way back into decent shape, but he was still a bit harsh on the real high stuff. Early Gillan stuff was excellent and I even think up through Magic he sounded pretty good, although he was starting to lose his resonance and upper register by then. You can check out some of his performances from that era on YouTube. You can hear why his doctors wanted him to get some work done on his chords and to rest. Alas, not to be. emoticon




Im not a huge fan of the IGB either they were technically very talented but dare i say it a bit boring.I do think that Ian during that period was vocally still superb, and very much still had the vocal magic of his earlier DP years.
Totally agree about the Gillan period, i loved the band and thought they released some of the best albums of all the DP offshoot bands ,live though was a different story, i first saw them on the "around the world in 80" tour and they were messy and sloppy but still fun.I do remember my friends and i making comment on Ians attempts to scream which much of the time had been replaced with a squawk. He was still a great singer then though but somewhat unprofessional ie clearly drunk on stage at times.One of the biggest shames in Rock N Roll was the fact that Ian never looked after that wonderful gift he had.Having said all that i have enjoyed just about every studio album Ian has released throughout his career.Its just as a live artist hes been done as far as some classics are concerned for decades sadly.

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lightintheblack0 wrote:

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JSA1 wrote:

quote:

lightintheblack0 wrote:

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nyfan2 wrote:

quote:

lightintheblack0 wrote:

quote:

JSA1 wrote:

quote:

lightintheblack0 wrote:

quote:

JSA1 wrote:

quote:

intothefire1969 wrote:

Ian Gillan sings Nessum Dorma , double A side single. The definitive version with very special guest performance. Maybe with a bonus, one of the many performances of "smoke" the guest singer witnessed.
Perhaps with a bonus insert with quotes from Pavarotti "the nights I sung with Ian Gillan"



I think that it would have been much better had it happened in 1970. Not bad, but certainly not the definitive version.



No doubt about that JSA1 ,the things is Ian Gillan IMHO was every bit as talented as Pavarotti in his own field, but unfortunately he never looked after his gift and he blew his voice out way too soon.Pavarotti on the other hand looked after his gift till the end .The video demonstrates that perfectly in that Pavarotti was 10 years Ians senior and he blew him away.




The real problem was that he kept blowing his voice out. First, not listening to his doctors and joining Sabbath. Next, going right into the Purple reunion from the Sabs without rest. Got axed. Got some of his voice back and put out some good albums and concerts, but started screaming more and then back with the Purps. Something about Ian and Purple. He seemed to beat his voice up. Maybe trying to match Blackers, doing those high energy HS kind of tunes. He seemed to get much better for a while after Morse joined, but he just can't help that scream-fest stuff. I've always been a fan and he is the person who got me into Purple because of JCSS. It's just a shame how he didn't take care of the beautiful voice he had. emoticon




Totally agree JSA1, shame really but i guess the lifestyle of a Rock star is different from that of an opera star.
Gillans drinking and smoking im sure had an effect as well.
There is youtube footage from Japan in 78 of early Gillan the band with Steve Byrd on guitar, and vocally Ian is very much the Gillan from 70s DP, but even by the Glory Road tour in 1980 the damage was beginning to show on Ians vocals ,he was still a great singer back then but part of the top end had gone and his voice had become more nasal IMHO



One might even go back earlier to 1973 when Ian's stamina/top end started to dip. Case in point he couldn't sustain "the scream" in Strange Kind of Woman" NY show in 4/5 1973 vs SKOW in MIJ 1972.



Possibly? but I always put that particular 73 performance down to it being a tired dispirited Gillan, perhaps due to the by then huge tensions in the band?He looked shattered and somewhat unwell at that show IMHO
He was still singing brilliantly and hitting all the notes in the IGB, i personally didn't really notice a big change until the Glory Road tour.



I wasn't a big fan of IGB. I thought that his chords had tightened up a bit from inactivity. He worked his way back into decent shape, but he was still a bit harsh on the real high stuff. Early Gillan stuff was excellent and I even think up through Magic he sounded pretty good, although he was starting to lose his resonance and upper register by then. You can check out some of his performances from that era on YouTube. You can hear why his doctors wanted him to get some work done on his chords and to rest. Alas, not to be. emoticon




Im not a huge fan of the IGB either they were technically very talented but dare i say it a bit boring.I do think that Ian during that period was vocally still superb, and very much still had the vocal magic of his earlier DP years.
Totally agree about the Gillan period, i loved the band and thought they released some of the best albums of all the DP offshoot bands ,live though was a different story, i first saw them on the "around the world in 80" tour and they were messy and sloppy but still fun.I do remember my friends and i making comment on Ians attempts to scream which much of the time had been replaced with a squawk. He was still a great singer then though but somewhat unprofessional ie clearly drunk on stage at times.One of the biggest shames in Rock N Roll was the fact that Ian never looked after that wonderful gift he had.Having said all that i have enjoyed just about every studio album Ian has released throughout his career.Its just as a live artist hes been done as far as some classics are concerned for decades sadly.




I agree here. There are a couple of shows on YouTube from a bit later in the Gillan era, though, that are really good and IG is spot-on. The Gillingham from show from 1982 is excellent. A major contrast to the Oxford Poly show from the year before. He was thin and a bit ragged on that show. I haven't seen much of any quality after Gillingham, but he still delivered now and then up to that point. Too bad that it was basically the end of the line. Oy! emoticon
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