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It's not just about being open, it's about having clients. Tourism is bound to be, in the near future, pretty much a local affair - I guess not many will want to fly long-haul to exotic destinations these days, with increased risk of getting ill due to the travel and then being far from home if anything happens, either to you or back home, whilst you are away. You already see it with all the people stranded in remote countries, with enormous difficulties getting back home during a lockdown.



Very true. This will affect tourism for quite some time. And airtravel and all the business involved.

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It's not just about being open, it's about having clients. Tourism is bound to be, in the near future, pretty much a local affair - I guess not many will want to fly long-haul to exotic destinations these days, with increased risk of getting ill due to the travel and then being far from home if anything happens, either to you or back home, whilst you are away. You already see it with all the people stranded in remote countries, with enormous difficulties getting back home during a lockdown.



Very true. This will affect tourism for quite some time. And airtravel and all the business involved.



And some say it's not even a temporary thing but it'll completely reshape several aspects of our everyday life and habits. I don't know, what about rock shows?
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We’ll go to gigs in bio containment garb😎
Seriously, it will be a mess until we get a vaccine - only positive is that this is so huge, that they will speed that up significantly.
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I don't feel great about this, thouh I have no reason to complain. Lots of people suffer these days, and I do feel sorry for them.
That said, what worries me most is not the corona virus, it's the economy. All the shutdowns are very problematic. C19 will disappear sooner or later, hopefully sooner, but the economical crisis this leaves us in will last for years, perhaps decades.

Recent news from western Africa reports that 33 million people are starving badly because corona-restrictions means food can't be brought out, or gets too expensive.
In South Africa police seems to be free to shoot anyone who perhaps should not be in the streets. At least they won't die from the virus. All countries do not go this far, but everywhere people suffer badly these days due to corona-restrictions. I applause any will to save lives, but perhaps there actually is something like too high a price, after all?

Personally I do not worry very much about corona virus. I worry about corona blinders. All the major problems that most likely will cost milions of people their lives all around the world, because our media and politicians lose other issues out of sight. Understandably perhaps, but still dangerous.
We seriously need to develop strategies to deal with diseases without closing down all activities for months, because that wil end up killing much more people that any virus.

I'm sorry for sharing my dark view on this. On the brighter side of things, I do my best not to focus on corona problems these days. I bought myself a new guitar recently. Ordered back in february, not in stock at the time it arrived a month later, a brand new Fender Stratocaster, duly marked Corona, California. Of course. To improve sound further, I already invested in a new chorus pedal from tc electronics, named Corona Chorus. What else. Ok, now these are nice warm days, so I had myself a beer, a mexican Corona beer. For relaxing in the evening I enjoy a glass of spanish wine, noticing it's named Coronas. And to really escape all real life worries, I watched a Disney cartoon with my niece. She favoured Rapunzel. Princess of Corona nation.
I'm about to go slightly mad.
But I have nothing to complain about, really.

I do hope that you who live closer to corona troubles get through well.
And that we all will, when time comes to re-focus on everything else in life.


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So far, there have only been around three million cases confirmed world wide. I would add a few hundred thousand from China who has reported just over half the cases reported in the UK and you can't trust their numbers. With over seven billion people (Closing in on eight billion) in the world, just over three million comes out to around .00047. I used 3,300,000 divided by seven billion. It comes out to less than 400 cases per million worldwide. I think that this will be a mild pandemic compared to other major pandemics in history. Just my two cents.
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After humanity defeats covid19.

To whom it may concern,

Please, stop eating bats, pangolin, rats, snakes, etc. It could lead to another pandemic.
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JSA1 - I hope you are right, and indeed it could be milder in absolute terms than some of the previous pandemics(but we still have a long way to go before we have a vaccine, a cure or herd immunity, so who knows how much these numbers may still rise) but we needed an unprecedented effort to keep numbers low. So far, despite our efforts, the number of deaths in the US is similar to the Vietnam war, and you guys had to bring everything to a standstill to avoid worse consequences.
The other thing is that, as we become more detached from the experience of wars we become more risk averse as a society, so ten deaths today have a larger impact than hundred had a century ago.
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JSA1 - I hope you are right, and indeed it could be milder in absolute terms than some of the previous pandemics(but we still have a long way to go before we have a vaccine, a cure or herd immunity, so who knows how much these numbers may still rise) but we needed an unprecedented effort to keep numbers low. So far, despite our efforts, the number of deaths in the US is similar to the Vietnam war, and you guys had to bring everything to a standstill to avoid worse consequences.
The other thing is that, as we become more detached from the experience of wars we become more risk averse as a society, so ten deaths today have a larger impact than hundred had a century ago.



We really can't compare it to war. If we do that, where does it end? The Spanish flu killed more Americans than all of our wars in the 20th century combined and as many civilians worldwide as died in WWII, not counting military deaths. Two totally different causes. We need to compare it to other communicable diseases, other than something like AIDS, which you can't get by somebody breathing on you. I'm hoping this starts coming to an end and we can start getting back to some semblance of normalcy. We'll see.
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I hope the same, and understand your point about war being a different situation altogether - my point was not meant to put them on the same level, but just to give an order of magnitude comparing it with something that lasted a decade and had a huge impact.
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