Born Again. https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/t9753 Runboard| Born Again. en-us Fri, 29 Mar 2024 09:43:33 +0000 Fri, 29 Mar 2024 09:43:33 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162379,from=rss#post162379https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162379,from=rss#post162379No,he mentioned this in a question about Born Again,when he left on holiday after the recording,it was left in Geezers hands to do the mixing.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gillans micstand)Mon, 03 May 2004 21:56:57 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162378,from=rss#post162378https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162378,from=rss#post162378quote:Gillans micstand wrote: heres a quote from Gillan: "Never leave the mixing duties to a bass player" Pretty safe bet he wasn't refering to Mr.Glover! nondisclosed_email@example.com (ByTor)Mon, 03 May 2004 20:22:59 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162377,from=rss#post162377https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162377,from=rss#post162377Your quote from Iommi sounds correct,however,I believe I read an answer to a question in the Q and A section at Gillans website,addressing the sound. As Far as Geezer mixing it,this should be common knowlege.heres a quote from Gillan: "Never leave the mixing duties to a bass player"nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gillans micstand)Mon, 03 May 2004 20:16:03 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162376,from=rss#post162376https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162376,from=rss#post162376G micstand where did you get the info regarding Geezer mixing the album? Also never heard the blown speaker theory. Here is a quote from Tony Iommi- "There are some good songs but the production is awful - really huffy, due to two amps blowing in the monitor system and nobody noticing." That was taken from Raw Magazine, but I saw it on the "Gillan the Hero" site.nondisclosed_email@example.com (ByTor)Mon, 03 May 2004 20:11:10 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162375,from=rss#post162375https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162375,from=rss#post162375The production was no doubt very muddy,due mostly to Geezer mixing it and not knowing that it was recorded with a blown bass speaker,big hole in the project if you ask me.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gillans micstand)Mon, 03 May 2004 11:06:53 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162374,from=rss#post162374https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162374,from=rss#post162374A great BS album! Right there with the first albums and H&H. The as someone said above, there's something weird to the sound of the album. A mate put it well: "there's something wrong with the sound" - using "wrong" as a positive word ("diabolically wrong" perhaps?). nondisclosed_email@example.com (Rezi)Mon, 03 May 2004 07:58:42 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162373,from=rss#post162373https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162373,from=rss#post162373quote:Gillans micstand wrote: If it feels good... I see you don't listen,who's voice is coming through the flute on Abby Of Thelema Milan???? All of your childish crap aside,answer the question,don't bother concentrating on correcting me or running silly contests using my statements! As I know that not being able to read properly is as much a part of dyslexia as writing problems(though never being really able to concentrate on the subject isn´t) I know that you´ve problem missed me having answered long above. Therefore I suggest have another look and don´t take everything so deadly serious, my sad old farty.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Milan Fahrnholz)Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:46:20 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162372,from=rss#post162372https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162372,from=rss#post162372If it feels good... I see you don't listen,who's voice is coming through the flute on Abby Of Thelema Milan???? All of your childish crap aside,answer the question,don't bother concentrating on correcting me or running silly contests using my statements! [this part is cut out]nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gillans micstand)Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:37:56 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162371,from=rss#post162371https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162371,from=rss#post162371And I revise that unofficial declaration and open the doors for nice sympathic dumb ass pricks like the above poster is one...or the above of the above? Oh, damn I´m getting younger!nondisclosed_email@example.com (Milan Fahrnholz)Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:28:57 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162370,from=rss#post162370https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162370,from=rss#post162370Of course this is the first time I've EVER resorted to such name calling,if the shoe fits....! nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gillans micstand)Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:28:28 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162369,from=rss#post162369https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162369,from=rss#post162369I hereby declare this forum for Deep purple fans only!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not for dumb ass pricks like the above poster. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gillans micstand)Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:26:34 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162368,from=rss#post162368https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162368,from=rss#post162368quote:Milan Fahrnholz wrote: Now, dear quiz candiates of tonight´s show. Nice to have you all hear, the question is now. In which way doesn´t statement a) fit to statements b) and c) who obviousl fit together well: Gillans micstand quote:a) : I clearly aked,"he playes a bit of flute,doesn't he?" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote:b): I also spoke of Gillan playing some flute in his solo days,does anybody know what song I'm talking about,he's not credited,Colin Towns is,but I swear it's Gillans voice coming through it. quote:c): If thats not Gillans voice coming through,ala Ian Anderson and all the other great flute players,I don't know who's is The price...you may have guessed it already...is a new conditioned great crafted, wooden...flute! Buzzzzzzz Times up lads. contestant #1- well since it's that Kickstand fella..I'd say that nothing he says fits into anything he's ever said and that gaurantees most of it never will fit into anything he's going to say. It's like fitting square pegs into round holes. His momma never taught him that they just don't fit, yet, fun as it is watchin a retard try, it ain't gonna happen. But he, like the band that he sooo loves, just keeps on smiling.   nondisclosed_email@example.com (Ritchies Strat)Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:59:32 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162367,from=rss#post162367https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162367,from=rss#post162367Now, dear quiz candiates of tonight´s show. Nice to have you all hear, the question is now. In which way doesn´t statement a) fit to statements b) and c) who obviousl fit together well: Gillans micstand quote:a) : I clearly aked,"he playes a bit of flute,doesn't he?" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote:b): I also spoke of Gillan playing some flute in his solo days,does anybody know what song I'm talking about,he's not credited,Colin Towns is,but I swear it's Gillans voice coming through it. quote:c): If thats not Gillans voice coming through,ala Ian Anderson and all the other great flute players,I don't know who's is The price...you may have guessed it already...is a new conditioned great crafted, wooden...flute!nondisclosed_email@example.com (Milan Fahrnholz)Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:50:15 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162366,from=rss#post162366https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162366,from=rss#post162366Btw guys,I never said Gillan plays the flute I clearly aked,"he playes a bit of flute,doesn't he?" nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gillans micstand)Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:38:34 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162365,from=rss#post162365https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162365,from=rss#post162365quote:Gillans micstand wrote: Brian,you wouldn't know a good singer if he got far enough into your ears to turn you deaf. Milan,you mentioned Abby Of Thelema,have another listen to it. If thats not Gillans voice coming through,ala Ian Anderson and all the other great flute players,I don't know who's is,cos it certainly isn't Colins voice,I don't know why Gillan would overdub his voice on Colins flute either.But it's certainly not Colin. Brian wouldn't know Gillans voice well enough,he doesn't even know this fabulous song.(never heard it) Milan,you may very well know Gillans voice,but not nearly as well as I do,seeing as I've been listening to it for over 30 years now. Great, wait another 10 years and you´ll probably recognize his voice when he farts. Despite your senseless comment, I know what you mean about the extended Abbey Of Thelema, though. There´s some screaming in the backround(mixed with a few whispers, which appreas contionously on the FGFO Record), that certainly can´t be done while playing a flute the way it´s played there. Being associated with some mean flute, clarinette and saxophone players, I know that this kind of voice can´t be done simulanously to the proper playing. I assume it´s some overdubs. You ask yourself why? Well, probably as unclear to you as it´s unclear to me why he should credit his flute playing to the bands flute player.  nondisclosed_email@example.com (Milan Fahrnholz)Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:35:39 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162364,from=rss#post162364https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162364,from=rss#post162364Brian,you wouldn't know a good singer if he got far enough into your ears to turn you deaf. Milan,you mentioned Abby Of Thelema,have another listen to it. If thats not Gillans voice coming through,ala Ian Anderson and all the other great flute players,I don't know who's is,cos it certainly isn't Colins voice,I don't know why Gillan would overdub his voice on Colins flute either.But it's certainly not Colin. Brian wouldn't know Gillans voice well enough,he doesn't even know this fabulous song.(never heard it) Milan,you may very well know Gillans voice,but not nearly as well as I do,seeing as I've been listening to it for over 30 years now. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gillans micstand)Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:26:23 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162363,from=rss#post162363https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162363,from=rss#post162363nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nigel Young)Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:24:06 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162362,from=rss#post162362https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162362,from=rss#post162362quote:Gillans micstand wrote: I also spoke of Gillan playing some flute in his solo days,does anybody know what song I'm talking about,he's not credited,Colin Towns is,but I swear it's Gillans voice coming through it.  I knew you an Gillan were close, even intimate. Most times I think you've crawled right up his ass to tickle his colon, but even when my wife whispers directly in my ear I wouldn't be able to tell if it was her breath coming through a flute.     nondisclosed_email@example.com (Ritchies Strat)Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:57:30 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162361,from=rss#post162361https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162361,from=rss#post162361quote:Gillans micstand wrote: I also spoke of Gillan playing some flute in his solo days,does anybody know what song I'm talking about,he's not credited,Colin Towns is,but I swear it's Gillans voice coming through it. Well you can see Towns playing the flute on the 1977 IGB live video as introduction to Child In Time. There must be several songs that have Towns using a flute, like Abbey Of Thelema or Five Moons. Don´t know what makes you wanting it to attribute to Gillan. I think I know his voice very good, but I wouldn´t claim to be able to tell it by hearing him just blowing.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Milan Fahrnholz)Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:40:22 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162360,from=rss#post162360https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162360,from=rss#post162360Hmmmm. I think that Born Again is great album and I think that it´s really very underrated album! But I think that Ian was great singer for BS, because he sounded absolutely GREAT on live shows and songs which was sung in studio version by Dio (Heaven and Hell) or Ozzy (Black Sabbath, Children Of The Grave etc) sounded more frightening by Ian!!! His laugh, screams and all of these was really important thing for atmosphere at concerts with Black Sabbath!nondisclosed_email@example.com (ptr)Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:30:10 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162359,from=rss#post162359https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162359,from=rss#post162359When it was first mentioned that he played flut on BA,it seemed as if it was a surprise that he even played the instrument or something,then it was further doubted that he does so on BA,I would just believe that he most likely does,since he is credited as doing so,just where it can be pointed out seems to be the question,I'm sure someone will point out which track it is for sure. This makes me feel like pulling out the remaster and scanning it just out of curiosity,but it's din din time,maybe later. I also spoke of Gillan playing some flute in his solo days,does anybody know what song I'm talking about,he's not credited,Colin Towns is,but I swear it's Gillans voice coming through it.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gillans micstand)Mon, 26 Apr 2004 02:40:50 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162358,from=rss#post162358https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162358,from=rss#post162358I know he plays flute, never said he didn't I thought we were discussing the Born Again album.nondisclosed_email@example.com (ByTor)Mon, 26 Apr 2004 02:07:53 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162357,from=rss#post162357https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162357,from=rss#post162357Could be flute at the end of Zero the Hero there are some noises that could possibly be what Tony is credited on the album as being the flute. (for the last time,he does play the flute) where on BA I really can't say,but it's not his only flute playing.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gillans micstand)Mon, 26 Apr 2004 01:55:00 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162356,from=rss#post162356https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162356,from=rss#post162356I'll have to see if I can find the old article where he's aked about the flute credit on Born Again. I'am pretty sure he said there was no flute on the album, but truly cant remember for sure. Gillans micstand (or anyone else)do you hear spots on the BA album that you think are flute? Me saying he may have used a MIDI interface with his flute is in no way discrediting Iommi's flute playing (Floutist? SP). I meant it more as a compliment. nondisclosed_email@example.com (ByTor)Mon, 26 Apr 2004 01:42:20 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162355,from=rss#post162355https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162355,from=rss#post162355They were being used heavily by 1985,so someone of Iommi's status could have been using them in 83,but pretty unlikely,btw,why would he have anyway?,he is an accomplished flute player and as I said before had played the flute in Sabbath before doing so on BA. ------------ Doesn't Gillan play a bit of flute himself? nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gillans micstand)Mon, 26 Apr 2004 00:13:11 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162354,from=rss#post162354https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162354,from=rss#post162354quote:Shadowcast wrote: I don't think MIDI computer interfaces were around in 1983. The first MIDI capable equipment was actually put on the market in 1983 but I strongly doubt that they'd have had time to use it in the recording.nondisclosed_email@example.com (RitchiesHair)Mon, 26 Apr 2004 00:10:56 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162353,from=rss#post162353https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162353,from=rss#post162353I don't think MIDI computer interfaces were around in 1983.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Shadowcast)Sun, 25 Apr 2004 23:25:17 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162352,from=rss#post162352https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162352,from=rss#post162352If he used a MIDI comptuter interface he could have controled or triggerd any of the keyboard type sounds, so Stonehendge or The Dark would be a good guess.  I dont think he did though, I cant seem to find the interview where he talks about it. I think it was in a guitar mag.  nondisclosed_email@example.com (ByTor)Sun, 25 Apr 2004 22:18:48 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162351,from=rss#post162351https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162351,from=rss#post162351If he plays flute in Born Again it is probably on the instrumental Stonhengenondisclosed_email@example.com (Shadowcast)Sun, 25 Apr 2004 18:50:33 +0000 Re: Born Again.https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162350,from=rss#post162350https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p162350,from=rss#post162350ByTor wrote: quote:Born Again album also has credit going to Tony Iommi for playing flute! Not the first album he ever played the flute on though. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gillans micstand)Sun, 25 Apr 2004 17:36:14 +0000