MANDRAKE ROOT- The SODP Studio Version... https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/t9597 Runboard| MANDRAKE ROOT- The SODP Studio Version... en-us Thu, 28 Mar 2024 11:32:49 +0000 Thu, 28 Mar 2024 11:32:49 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: MANDRAKE ROOT- The SODP Studio Version...https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p160198,from=rss#post160198https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p160198,from=rss#post160198It could very well be possible that Jon wouldn't even remember exactly how he made the sound himself,I've talked to him before about some things he's done in the past and he just looked at me as if he couldn't be bothered to remember such things,which is often the case with artists and "some" of there work,when being put on the spot about it.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gillans micstand)Thu, 20 May 2004 05:31:03 +0000 Re: MANDRAKE ROOT- The SODP Studio Version...https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p160197,from=rss#post160197https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p160197,from=rss#post160197Maybe it would be a good idea to ask one of those engineer types in the "Hammond Zone" if they know,assuming they are familiar with Jons work of course? It sounds to me like they might have the answer,unless they aren't big on Jon.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gillans micstand)Thu, 20 May 2004 05:26:51 +0000 Re: MANDRAKE ROOT- The SODP Studio Version...https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p160196,from=rss#post160196https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p160196,from=rss#post160196Thanks for the complement David, but you give me far too much credit! On the Yahoo Group "Hammond Zone" I hang out on, there are electrical engineers/ organ players that could tear a Hammond apart and rebuild it over a 2-day weekend, just for the fun of it!! They run cirlces around me. Very knowledgable, if I only knew what the heck they were talking about even 10% of the time! Who knows? There may be some auxiliary voltage tap into a transformer that provides an "open signal" that can feed back with its own speaker if close enough. I don't know. My suspicion is that in a studio mix, there would be no open feedback systems present at all, or else it would have muddied up the mix. I'm thinking organ overdub with a second recording of JL playing "palm glises" with a medium-high drawbar setting on the organ. If harsh and overdriven enough, it could produce that metallic/ screaching swooshing sound heard toward the end of the Mandrake Root organ solo. Then they'd fade that back into the original organ solo as he rumbles up from the lower end of the keyboard, and goes back into the melodic part of the solo. Just a thought. If I knew for sure, obviously I would have never started this thread.nondisclosed_email@example.com (B3Burner)Thu, 20 May 2004 04:13:11 +0000 Re: MANDRAKE ROOT- The SODP Studio Version...https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p160195,from=rss#post160195https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p160195,from=rss#post160195quote:B3Burner wrote: But where's there an open system for feedback to take place on a Hammond? If it's there, I myself don't know what it is. And if John O'Flaherty doesn't know where it is then I for one am confident that it doesn't exist nondisclosed_email@example.com (David Meadows)Tue, 18 May 2004 15:33:38 +0000 Re: MANDRAKE ROOT- The SODP Studio Version...https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p160194,from=rss#post160194https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p160194,from=rss#post160194Since he didn't run it through a Marshall at that time,you are right,but we don't actually know what all of the equipment being used was,although I'm sure it was pretty basic. I'd say his secrets are safe with him. Maybe Helmut has some clues here,or maybe even Happy Hammond.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gillans micstand)Sat, 15 May 2004 07:45:50 +0000 Re: MANDRAKE ROOT- The SODP Studio Version...https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p160193,from=rss#post160193https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p160193,from=rss#post160193quote:Gillans micstand wrote: This combined with full volume feeding back from the amps has always been my guess...But do organs feed back when placed next to their amps the way guitars do? My personal experience with this says no. Guitars (and I don't know much about them), the open strings can resonate at the same frequency as the sound coming out the amp, and if the guitar is close enough to the speaker, it creates that feedback loop, like an open mike. That's my understanding of how guitarists get that sound. But where's there an open system for feedback to take place on a Hammond? If it's there, I myself don't know what it is. nondisclosed_email@example.com (B3Burner)Sat, 15 May 2004 07:16:24 +0000 Re: MANDRAKE ROOT- The SODP Studio Version...https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p160192,from=rss#post160192https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p160192,from=rss#post160192B3burner wrote: quote:I've always wondered, was that his earliest use of "Ring Modulation", or was it merely him palming the high end of the keyboard with the top three drawbars pulled out? This combined with full volume feeding back from the amps has always been my guess,I've wondered this exact same thing for years. Even if we had some footage of this,I'm sure we wouldn't exactly know. I like Jons take on his position as an artist,"well,you have to start by being me". nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gillans micstand)Thu, 13 May 2004 22:17:13 +0000 Re: MANDRAKE ROOT- The SODP Studio Version...https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p160190,from=rss#post160190https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p160190,from=rss#post160190quote:B3Burner wrote: On Mandrake Root, toward the end of the organ solo, there is a metallic grinding, hissing sound that JL is able to generate out of the organ on that song. I've always wondered, was that his earliest use of "Ring Modulation", or was it merely him palming the high end of the keyboard with the top three drawbars pulled out?  Perhaps Lord was just "working the kinks out" of that new Hammond he had Edwards + Coletta purchase for him after he let them know the one he was using in his previous band wasn't his and thus wouldn't be a part of the new band - Roundabout. nondisclosed_email@example.com (MrEd45)Sat, 08 May 2004 12:01:27 +0000 Re: MANDRAKE ROOT- The SODP Studio Version...https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p160189,from=rss#post160189https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p160189,from=rss#post160189quote:Satch wrote: You might want to ask Don Airey, Emerson, or someone like Ray Manzarek what exactly was going on with regard to the keyboard parts.Well that's a great idea...and if you happen to have those three distinguished gentlemens' cell phone numbers on your speed dial, would you kindly hook me up? I'm actually hoping someone like Nigel Young, Lesliescream, or Gillan's Micstand might know. nondisclosed_email@example.com (B3Burner)Fri, 07 May 2004 04:37:16 +0000 Re: MANDRAKE ROOT- The SODP Studio Version...https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p160188,from=rss#post160188https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p160188,from=rss#post160188Have no idea, Burner. But dominant7th#9, that's The Chord! nondisclosed_email@example.com (Atle)Fri, 07 May 2004 00:06:42 +0000 Re: MANDRAKE ROOT- The SODP Studio Version...https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p160187,from=rss#post160187https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p160187,from=rss#post160187You might want to ask Don Airey, Emerson, or someone like Ray Manzarek what exactly was going on with regard to the keyboard parts.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Satch)Thu, 06 May 2004 21:21:21 +0000 MANDRAKE ROOT- The SODP Studio Version...https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p160186,from=rss#post160186https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p160186,from=rss#post160186On Mandrake Root, toward the end of the organ solo, there is a metallic grinding, hissing sound that JL is able to generate out of the organ on that song. I've always wondered, was that his earliest use of "Ring Modulation", or was it merely him palming the high end of the keyboard with the top three drawbars pulled out? I question whether it was ring mod. because the ring mod. from the MIJ/ "First Day Jam"- WDWTWA sounds much more synthisized and less metalic and hissy than the Mandrake Root part I'm referring to above.nondisclosed_email@example.com (B3Burner)Thu, 06 May 2004 06:43:50 +0000