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Though UFO was not an Episode Six track I believe. It was a Graham Carter solo single.

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I think much of the first Warhorse album is a good example of what In Rock might have sounded like if Simper had stayed on when Gillan joined. It's almost the missing link between the 3rd MkI album and In Rock. The difference between Paice/Glover and Simper/Paice is very evident though. Still, I like the two Fandango albums from '79 and '80 as much as the other spin-off band's releases in that time-frame. I think Simper is a very under-rated player and writer. A sadly overlooked, but very important member of the DP story.
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Yeah, I think the first Warhorse album did show that Simper could play heavy bass too. Perhaps it was a statement towards Purple.

Great album though, as well as the stuff he did with Fandango! The guy had the talent, if not the fame.

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He also felt that Nick's bass playing was far too old fashioned more suited to the older rock n' roll styles than the progressive direction.


I've heard this before but it's never made much sense to me. Simper's work in Deep Purple sounds just as "progressive" as any contemporary (late-60s) prog bass player. In comparison, Glover's playing on In Rock is pretty unadventurous!



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I agree. Listen to something like Emeretta. That has a cool bass line-very adventurous IMO. Glover on In Rock basically followed RB's riffs.
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As Larry Holmes once said about Marciano the same holds true for Nicky compared to Roger.
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In defense of Roger, the entire In Rock album was a very simplistic album, simple riffs and simple arrangements. He and RB basically did the standard mirroring of each other that many hard rock bands utilized. Remember that Roger had just joined the band and his position was far from concrete at that point. He may not have wanted to push too hard or overplay, being the new guy and all. However, after their extended touring to support In Rock, they had grown together into a monster band. Thus, Roger's playing on Fireball is stupendous and rarely mirrors RB's riffs. His playing on No No No is among the finest bass playing of the era. From that album on, he continued to push the envelope for bass playing in a hard rock band. He wasn't a "lead bassist" like Chris Squire, or an extremely melodic player like Gary Thain. He wasn't a driving metallic force like John Wetton or a tasty accent player like Andy Fraser either. Instead, he laid down the bottom end, anchoring the band with alternating furious and complex bass runs, with simple patterns, which allowed the rest of the band to shine in their respective positions. I can't imagine Simper or Hughes pulling off anything on Fireball, Machine Head or Who Do We Think We Are. They're just not the right kind of bass players to do the progressive stuff those songs needed. In Rock was a transitional album, so I think they were somewhat cautious about how they presented that new format to the world. Once they were established and successful, I think he felt comfortable in flexing his musical muscles a bit more. A fine bassist, superb arranger and a great writer, the unsung hero of the DP legend.
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....but Glover has often stated that InRock had alot to do with him.
Agree about his basslines in No No No,simply remarkable,and structured away from Blackmore,to an impressive effect.
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 Bravo to MetalJim for an excellent post regarding Glover. Well written! emoticon

 I must say again regarding the Evans/Simper business, that the one thing that's always rankled me for years is the short end of the stick Simper always gets regarding the formation of the band. He'll always remain an "uncredited founder" of the band that became Deep Purple, and that's a crying shame and a gross injustice. Simper was invited to form a band with Lord when they were both still Flowerpot Men, and he was always - despite Chris Curtis' maintaining "WEe don't need a bassist" - the man who was always planned to be the bass player in Roundabout/Deep Purple. This was decided before Blackmore was ever contacted about being in the band, yet somehow through the years the founders are nearly always credited as being Blackmore + Lord, with Curtis receiving cursory credit.
 It's well past time to right (however much it's possible to right it) this injustice, and give - or share - proper credit where proper credit is due.

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...well,alright then!!!!! emoticon
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