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 Heinz died on Friday April 7th 2000. Heinz Burt born in Hargen Germany in 1942. To a German Mother and English Father..He came to England in 1945 and settled in Southampton. In the late 1950's he formed a group with Norman Hale on Keyboards.They called themselves the Falcons Later they auditioned at Joe Meeks studio. 304 Holloway Road North London.Joe Meek immediately became infatuated with Heinz. The Tornados followed with Telstar. A hit in 17 Countries worldwide, and No.1 in The USA. A first for a UK Group..Heinz then embarked on a solo career, and scored with his infectious "Just Like Eddie".This was followed by a few minor hits.Heinz was a great showman and a hard worker.No great talent. His cause in the early days was not helped by being put on Tours by Joe Meek.With Gene Vincent,Jerry Lee Lewis.Yet his determination, and guts saw him through. He leaves some good tracks.On The Decca aand Columbia label.He toured with the Wildboys.He had Ritchie Blackmore on Lead Guitar. Heinz real name was Swartze.

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Gillans micstand wrote:

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They used to fight for lead time on stage in Lord Sutch's
band every night while they both worked for him.



When were they both with Sutch at the same time? Isn't this a myth? Though Page played on some of Sutch's records, I don't think he ever gigged as one of the Savages.

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Joe wound up on the other end of his own gun in 1967.
He was gay and had a crush on one of his singers that
Ritchie played in a lot of sessions with,Jimmy also recorded with the same singer but not near as many sessions as Ritchie.

Can anyone guess who the singer is?
I'll give you one hint:
he was German and he passed away just recently.



http://www.thehighwaystar.com/specials/obit/HeinzBurt/

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I've never been sure if Blackmore + Page actually served time in Sutch's band together, or if one "depped" for the other when necessary.
Didn't they both - Blackmore + Page - also serve as Neil Christian's guitarist - sessions or otherwise - at one time or another?
As for myths, I understand there's a lot of them from that era still floating around. One that's been recently discussed on another forum was about Page's recording(s) with the Kinks, the Who, etc.,etc. during the early/mid 60s - whether he really played on "You Really Got Me", for example. Myths/legends...sometimes they can be half the fun.

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All I know is Page once was a hired studio-musician that time.

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Of course Nigel is right as USUALL along with MrEd and Ocean King, for more info on the whole subject and lots more good stuff to read about the time period.http://www.CarloLittle.com

As far as MrEd's wonderment is concerned,it's no myth that they played together in The Savages,Ritchie told me so himself,they used to one up one another.

Jimmy Page did play on "You Really Got Me"
so did Jon Lord.


As far as Jimmy and Ritchie's playing on the same tracks
in sessions circa 1963 goes:

They both played on Heinz "Digging My Potatoes"
I have no idea who's playing the slide though,
it sounds like it can be either one of them,
I have the origonal Decca single and a fair amount
of the rest of the Heinz singles Ritchie played on.

Also they played together on a track called"Dr.Feelgood"
which was produced by none other than Jeff Beck,
I believe this track to be just about the rarest most elusive single Ritchie ever cut.


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Great stories on this thread, I wish I could but I am having some difficulty topping any of these. emoticon
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Ritchie said that there was some "depping"
going on but he and Jimmy had played on the same stage together twice.

They passed one another by in the studio hallways during Meek sessions.
I don't know if they were even in the studio together during the session for
"Digging My Potatoes" or not.
My source told me they are both on the record though.(auctioneer in 1986)
I've never been quite certain whether or
not it's Jimmy on that, but it sounds an awful lot like his slide playing
but Ritchie is on that single for sure,
If that makes any sence. emoticon


Isn't there a movie on the story of Joe Meeks life?
I'm not talking about the new one where
Ian Robertson was cast to play the part of Ritchie,did that one ever come out as well?
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Was Page really on Heroin in 1969? Somebody get me the release date of Led Zep One because that was the best guitar playing that youngster ever did, and I doubt if he would have anytime to be cooking up heroin and playing lead guitar like that during that time period.
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The time period in referance to MrEd's mention of Page being on heroin was 1978.
I'd say he was probably doing it around that time,but I really don't know his story
with drugs,accept that he took them.

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Jimmy wasn't on heroin. But he sniffed cocaine!

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