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Rarest Purple 45


Hi:

Didn't have much look a few months back and am hoping better times ahead.

Would anybody have a copy they could put on a tape or CDR of the English Promo Single of Concerto For Group And Orchestra. Would be happy to give much much much more in return.
UK January 1970 Harvest PSR-325 [7" promo single]

I understand this is not a bootleg obviously; but hope that the fanatics that collect all things Purple will come through!!

Please contact me at

[email protected]

Thanks and be well!!
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I don't happen to own a copy of this single,it never really tickled my collective nerves,but NO WAY ON EARTH IS IT ANY WHERES NEAR BEING THEIR RAREST SINGLE...NOW WAY!
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You can check with anybody associated with the Purple organization and by far Concerto English promo single is the rarest.

Can you name anyone who has a copy? People have offered collectable record shops 1000.00 for this. It has never been on EBAY or GEMM.

To show you how much rarer this is than you think (I have been collecting over 30 years) go to EBAY and you will see Purple Picture Sleeves from Iran before you see this.

The last known copy of the item was purchased by somebody at a U.k. record Fair in the early 90's for over 300.00 American money.

Remember all the stuff you usually collect are released in a run of at least 1000's. There may not have been even 50 of the single pressed because it was for U.K. radio/collector shops only. Since they have less stations as a country than we may have in a small city, you would be shocked if you researched this item.

For the heckof it do a few minutes of research and see if anybody has even held a copy!!

Be well and happy collecting!!
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What on earth is a U.K. radio/collecter shop?
This single is "rare",and I have done the research,just not since 1981 or so,around that time I stopped looking for it,to make room for much more interesting singles.
For instance,it's not as rare as my Mary Long/Super Trooper b/w Rat Bat Blue single from Russia,I'd furnish you with a cat no.if I had it handy here at the office,but I'm pretty sure you aren't even aware of the item anyway,nor will you locate one,gauranteed!
I know you are in persuit of this single,why you would settle for a recording of it escapes me though.
Ebay and Gemm aren't resources that I prefere to plunder for Purple and related items,for good reasons.
I'll stick to my people in close to 40 countries that I still deal with when I'm looking for something that interests me,and the odd mag like Goldmine where I found alot of my sources.
I'm aware of singles from the middle east,in fact I have a Purple single from Turkey of all places.

"Rare"...yes,"rarest"...no!
Show me an acetate of it and I'll lay the money down for sure,cos that is most definitly rarer.
I have singles that I have payed in upwards of $300.00 for my collecting friend.
Personally I wouldn't give even one of my Hienz singles up for such a novelty.
I'll bet there are more of these singles in good hands than an LP like "The Battle Of Jimi Hendrix And Deep Purple".
I'm impressed that you can speak of things like "tracking down singles for their whereabouts amongst collecters in the world",(I've been doing this since atleast 1978)but remember there are tons of singles collecters out there that DO NOT collect for the same reasons we may,some collect labels,some collect artists,some collect 45's by anyone they can get their hands on and so forth...
The shame of it is,I'm sure some people have this single and don't know or care of it's value among Purple collecters,cos they have completely different motivations.
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First I am aware of the Russian item you speak of and I was a disc jockey for 6 years. Prior to working in commericla radio I did a free form show that had me play anything from Heinz to Beetoven and from Atomic Rooster to Zappa.

The reaosn I would take a tap eof the song is I have every single Blackmore period Purple edit or odd ball ending from every country. I am aware of things even fanatics would never know existd such as the 3 alternate mixes on a Finnish Best Of from Purple. The missing single would complete 30 years of collecting.

Something that people aren't aware if they dodn't work in the music business is the difference between a raido staiton promo and an item that is sold retail. Even if you take a picture sleeve of Purple from Thailand that you see on EBAY or one from Isreal 1970, these are produced at over 1000 a run. The Purple Concerto single went to several radio stations in the United Kingdom and some collectable shops. They aren't on a mass produced machine.

You can email the perosn who has a book out on collecting Purple all over the world or any of the robinson's, Simon/Nick and ask them. I am not counting acetates because there are acetates of bands where only copies existed for the members to listen to songs before they had tape decks in cars. Sure if you are talking about an acetate of the first time Maybe I'm A Leo was recorded, there are less copies of that item but I am talking about any Purple single that was either a single release to the public, a promo to radio stations or a juke box single such as Anthem from italy split over 2 sides (Yo may not be aware of this), concerto had many fewer copies pressed.

I can tell you this until I am blue in the face but ask the Robinson's, ask the Purple writer of collectables ask any record shop how much they could get for a copy of Concerto.

When you hunt down Purple collectables from countries ranging from Russia to Canada to Finland to Italy, after awhile you can resight in your sleep the rarest of the rare (Non acetates).

When you get some time email Nick or Simon or any of the individual band members webiste and ask an impartial person about the Concerto promo single.

Have a great night and nice to see another collector at work!!

Be well!!
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If it helps, I've held a copy in my hands. And a copy went through on ebay, last year I think, and sold for over £400 to a Japanese collector as I recall.

Think anyone would actually risk playing it though?

Nigel
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Hi Nigel:

I wonder if the EBAY Concerto was listed as something else because I check all the time for years and can't recall ever seeing it on any auction site or record seller.

Where did you hold it? Any ideas where I should look? I have things of = value if a perosn could make a copy; such as the different American Concerto promo single, Italian Jukebox promo of Anthem split in 2 and so on.

Be well!!!
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I have been an admirer of Simons work since atleast 1980.
He is one of if not the greatest source of the complied history of Deep Purple.
However I don't need him like I used to,but I will never write him off either.
The Russian item I spoke of,if you are aware of this item,maybe you can tell me more about it,for instance how many were pressed,and just what type of issue it was,not to mention what material it's made of?

About Mr.Youngs comment on whether anyone would actually risk playing the Concerto single,well I'm going to have to say that his point is crucial.
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Hi again:

Here is all I know of from the Russian item you are talking baout.

There are 2 collectable Russian issue Purple items. One was of interest to me which is a standard single 2 songs Mary Long (Single edit) and Super Trooper (Fade out edit and not cold stop) the other that you mention the 3 song issue.

I believe (I am sorry I don't have the Russian spelling because I don't have a non English character set up on the keyboard; they use more than 26 letters and some are backwards the way they write) both items were on the Melody Label. That is the generic translation of something close to Melodia. My item was Roct 5289-73. As I look at it, it is so generic. Any Eastern European pre 80 Purple release could be a boot.

I was even attempting to see if there was an address to give you to write to the record company directly (If they were legit). Have you thought about for the heck of it doing a www.google.com search and put in Russian Deep Purple collectors, websites, music stores, etc?www.thehighwaystar.com/links/ Has a link for at least one Russian site and items come up when you do a Google search but I don't want to say you can trust any site you visit with virus problems all the time.

Keep in mind something please. During the Communist regime, many of the items you see from these countries were not authorized releases. The governments allowed very little music of that kind to be purchased. They also have different copyright laws and items that were coming out of many Asian/European countries that had different covers for instance where not things the bands always got royalties.

Hope the info helps and be have agreat weekend!!
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I'm well aware of the situation involving unauthorised singles and what countries were liscensed to even print reords in those days,as far as the single I have goes;it's a blue flexi disc(no picture sleeve),I don't care about it's officiality.(rare is rare)
I see that it's fade outs that you are into collecting,sorry if I forgot.



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