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If Morse shows less than 50 percent of his capabilities in DP, he should leave the band.



There's no need for Steve to leave the band. Perhaps he's just showing tasteful restraint. Sometimes that takes 100 percent of your capabilities. emoticon

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Killer Bananas wrote:

"Personally I don't think that he is restricted in any way- he just don't know how to play hard rock. DP should not change their music just to make him fit in better. They are a classic hard rock band, not a jazzrock band! They try to do what they do best, and if the guitarist can't keep [sign in to see URL], it's time to leave."

Well, the problem lies with the "old band" who is unable (or does not want) to produce anything new and innovative, and I don't think things will change with the new guitarist - they will keep on playing the same things over and over again of course with slight changes to pretend they evolve. But they don't evolve. They are in a stagnation. Of course these albums are/will be of high quality because they are great muscians, but I am at this point when I am tired of listening to the same safe material satisfying orthodox fans, for whom SOTW and HS are ultimate rock songs.

See, for me the band which does not evolve is a dead band.

I also agree with You that Morse should leave because once he does he will have more time to record his solo albums which are much more innovative, experimental and exciting than DP albums. And I do believe if Steve had a stronger position in DP, he would make this band more exciting to listen to. But then, if they let him do it, DP would not fit in your label/category (classic hard rock - what is this by the way???), and will lose old orthodox fans, and will lose money, and the guys will have no money to pay their bills. Ahh, no, no, no, they can't afford to do it.

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Well, the problem lies with the "old band" who is unable (or does not want) to produce anything new and innovative, and I don't think things will change with the new guitarist - they will keep on playing the same things over and over again of course with slight changes to pretend they evolve. But they don't evolve. They are in a stagnation. Of course these albums are/will be of high quality because they are great muscians, but I am at this point when I am tired of listening to the same safe material satisfying orthodox fans, for whom SOTW and HS are ultimate rock songs.

See, for me the band which does not evolve is a dead band.

I also agree with You that Morse should leave because once he does he will have more time to record his solo albums which are much more innovative, experimental and exciting than DP albums. And I do believe if Steve had a stronger position in DP, he would make this band more exciting to listen to.



WM - were you not one of ROTD's strongest supporters on here? What went wrong?

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I still believe it is a great record. If I compare it to other Purple releases it is the best one since Perfect Strangers

But when I listen to solo records of other artists, inluding people from Purple camp (Steve, Ian, Jon, Glenn Hughes) I feel DP does not use their potential. And I strongly disagree it is the problem of a guitarist. As I said you can take any guitar player and the problem (I see the current things as a problem) will remain the same.
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I have to agree with wrong man,Purple talk about being labeled,then as the tour grows on they cut more and more new material out and replace it with the old standbys,making claims the new stuff doesn't get [sign in to see URL],people who aren't super familiar with newer material are not going to know it as well as the oldies,it was even true with the PS tour,you have to expose the audience to it,which is why bands tour.
ROTD was a good cd,but for the life of me I won't pay to see a stagnant DP,but will always plop my money down to see Steve solo.A new guitar player will not fit the bill,a Blackmore clone will make things even more dull than they already are,but if they continue to mine the back catalog and do nostalgia tours,and it seems a large segment want just that,its what they ought to [sign in to see URL] biggest complaint is Steve's not Blackmorish enough,and Purple cater to that segment,maybe they know [sign in to see URL],the Machine Head tour from the other year was pretty near a sell out,what does that tell you?
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You're all nuts!

The album ROTD is great, and makes other veteran bands latest albums sound weak by comparison. emoticon
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it is great, one of the best - within the framework they have utilized for years. And that is my point - they should introduce some more changes.
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Uli John Roth would make a good replacement for Morse but I don't think they should be doing it anymore. On the other hand, who cares? THE Deep Purple has been buried dead for so many years now. I guess Purpendicular was their last highlight and it proved to be the best moment to stop their career as Deep Purple. Unfortunately they didn't but true fans aren't blind. You can't fool us, Mk8, no, no, no emoticon
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Killer Bananas wrote:

"Personally I don't think that he is restricted in any way- he just don't know how to play hard rock. DP should not change their music just to make him fit in better. They are a classic hard rock band, not a jazzrock band! They try to do what they do best, and if the guitarist can't keep [sign in to see URL], it's time to leave."

Well, the problem lies with the "old band" who is unable (or does not want) to produce anything new and innovative, and I don't think things will change with the new guitarist - they will keep on playing the same things over and over again of course with slight changes to pretend they evolve. But they don't evolve. They are in a stagnation. Of course these albums are/will be of high quality because they are great muscians, but I am at this point when I am tired of listening to the same safe material satisfying orthodox fans, for whom SOTW and HS are ultimate rock songs.

See, for me the band which does not evolve is a dead band.

I also agree with You that Morse should leave because once he does he will have more time to record his solo albums which are much more innovative, experimental and exciting than DP albums. And I do believe if Steve had a stronger position in DP, he would make this band more exciting to listen to. But then, if they let him do it, DP would not fit in your label/category (classic hard rock - what is this by the way???), and will lose old orthodox fans, and will lose money, and the guys will have no money to pay their bills. Ahh, no, no, no, they can't afford to do it.

cheers.

wm



First: Classic Hard Rock- it's probably the same as you prefer to call "the DP formula".

Second: Why do you still listen to DP if you find them so little innovative? DP will never change into a jazzrock outfit just to please you and Morse (and one guy named M'Ebola in Upstate Mongolia). Would you like fx AC/DC to change their "formula" when the reason they have all those fans is because of their "classic hard rock"?

Third: I hope that Morse will pursue his solocarriere so that DP can bring in a real hardrock banjoplayer so they can bring that "DP formula" out to the fans again, and then Morse can make only "innovative, experimental and exciting" records.

Wouldn't that be great? You will get the music you prefer to listen to, and I will get the music I prefer to listen to.

Btw, I'm bored with both SOTW and HS...

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I have to agree with wrong man,Purple talk about being labeled,then as the tour grows on they cut more and more new material out and replace it with the old standbys,making claims the new stuff doesn't get [sign in to see URL],people who aren't super familiar with newer material are not going to know it as well as the oldies,it was even true with the PS tour,you have to expose the audience to it,which is why bands tour.
ROTD was a good cd,but for the life of me I won't pay to see a stagnant DP,but will always plop my money down to see Steve solo.A new guitar player will not fit the bill,a Blackmore clone will make things even more dull than they already are,but if they continue to mine the back catalog and do nostalgia tours,and it seems a large segment want just that,its what they ought to do.

1. The biggest complaint is Steve's not Blackmorish enough,and Purple cater to that segment,maybe they know best.

2. Heck,the Machine Head tour from the other year was pretty near a sell out,what does that tell you?



1. That is not my complaint! My complaint is that I don't think that Steve knows how to play hard rock'n'roll. He sounds lost! I don't want them to bring in a Blackmore clone, but a hard rock guitarist.

2. They did the MH Tour only in the US because of demands from promoters etc. The US audience don't want to hear anything new so they have to rely on the old stuff to draw a crowd. In Europe they toured the Bananas album- no complete MH here!

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