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Half a year later...


Okay, so it's six months after release of Rapture. What do you think, how did it go...

1) was the album popular within fans more than Bananas?

2) what were the sales like?

3) how many songs were played on the radio?

4) any awards, recognitions, how many positive and genative reviews?

5) what do you think should have been done better with Rapture?

6) what are your opinions, are there any things you liked and now you think they should have sound/look differently (or vice versa)?

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Okay, so it's six months after release of Rapture. What do you think, how did it go...

1) was the album popular within fans more than Bananas?

2) what were the sales like?

3) how many songs were played on the radio?

4) any awards, recognitions, how many positive and genative reviews?

5) what do you think should have been done better with Rapture?

6) what are your opinions, are there any things you liked and now you think they should have sound/look differently (or vice versa)?





1) I'm not sure. Seems like both those albums are popular among a lot of the fans.

2) Well, I bought one... Don't know how many albums they have sold, but they have at least promoted it properly.

3) Haven't heard one song on norwegian radio. When they talk about Purple on the radio, they always play Smoke.

4) No awards and no good reviews for the album in Norway from what I have seen, but great concertreviews for the ROTD Tour.

5) They should have used another producer 'cause the production is not good, and they should have used a little more time on some of the songs.

6) I have to admit that there are a few really good songs on the album. At first I didn't like the album, but six months on it really has grown on me. I still don't like don't let go and back to back, but the rest is actually quite good (some songs are even great). I still find Morse's playing a little boring, but I guess I can live with that. Don Airey is great, Paice is a little to lazy (but he has his moments, and when he does you almost can't hear it because of Bradfords poor production), Glover is rock steady (I have always loved his style and sound) and Gillan sings great (but Bradfords distortied vocals sounds terrible).

I think that the cover is one of the best covers that Purple has had.
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I have just finished listening to Living Loud CD after a while and what amazes me when I compare it with Rapture is that 1)Morse's playing is much more imaginative on Relentless (and I don't count the Randy Rhoads parts), i.e. in Every Moment a Lifetime - his solo is very toucht and calmed down when compared to any solo on Rapture and 2) LL didn't need anybody from the outise really to make the album sound properly, just as it should sound (it was mixed and produced by Darren Schneider - who worked with Glover on Abandon and Total Abandon - and Bob Daisley). It's a pity Glover refused to produce Bananas and ROTD.
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"I have just finished listening to Living Loud CD after a while and what amazes me when I compare it with Rapture is that 1)Morse's playing is much more imaginative on Relentless (and I don't count the Randy Rhoads parts), i.e. in Every Moment a Lifetime - his solo is very toucht and calmed down when compared to any solo on Rapture"

same thing with his solo stuff. I guess if more DP fans bothered to listen to Steve Morse Band records, they would see he is an awesome guitar player, a virtuoso and a very emotional player. They would also see that Morse shows less than 50 percent of his capabilities in DP. Personally I feel the rock n roll formula of DP restricts him too much. But it is just a hypothesis.
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Well, I agree with you that technically Morse'a a very capable player. He can play anything an everything but his solo stuff is mostly about the technics. It's a musician's music. If you're an average listener, a rock fan, you don't care that much about the abilities. It's the feeling that counts most. And that's what Morse lacks in my opinion.
Again, on the other hand, he proved a couple of times on some rock albums that he's able to play better, so what the !@#$ happend with him in Deep Purple??????!!!!!!!!!!!

After 12 years in the band, I'm afraid he wasn't the best choice for Deep Purple. He should be doing his solo stuff or with Dixie Dregs. he would be much more respected I think.

I really wish Purple played with Satriani or any unknown young guitarist, but not Morse. I even tend to think Dean Howard could do pretty well.
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"his solo stuff is mostly about the technics. It's a musician's music. If you're an average listener, a rock fan, you don't care that much about the abilities"

when I hear somebody say something like that I really doubt he/she has ever listened to his solo stuff

Ineed some songs are very technical, but then he recorded A LOT OF emotional songs and solos which definitely are not only about technique. Well, the whole High Tension Wires album is very lyrical, based on harmonies and melodies and not on. technique.

If you need more examples, I will be happy to provdie them to prove your statement wrong and to show you generalize too much, like most DP fans do when they talk about Morse.

as for Morse in DP, yes we agree here.

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I think ROTD sold better than Bananas. At least it was more copies of the albums available in CD stores and there was alot more reviews of ROTD on [sign in to see URL].

The reviews were quite positive in the US.

I thought it was by far their best album since Purpendicular and a top 3 album post reunion.

The thing to remember is Deep Purple are no longer a heavy metal band (as if they really ever were), they slant alot more in the progressive rock mode since Morse came aboard. Not surprising considering Morse's origins as well as Deep Purple's origins.
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I didn't play ROTD as much as Bananas.
For some reason I prefer Bananas, there are (IMO) more rhythm changes on it. Not that I don't like ROTD. On ROTD most things have the same pace.

ROTD has great tracks, but there are still songs I like less (for instance Back To Back). The interplay between Airey and Morse are far superior on ROTD, but I miss some faster tracks.

The press wrote very possitive about it, read some very good reviews. The same goes for the ROTD-tour.

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SixtyNine wrote:

Okay, so it's six months after release of Rapture. What do you think, how did it go...

1) was the album popular within fans more than Bananas?

2) what were the sales like?

3) how many songs were played on the radio?

4) any awards, recognitions, how many positive and genative reviews?

5) what do you think should have been done better with Rapture?

6) what are your opinions, are there any things you liked and now you think they should have sound/look differently (or vice versa)?




1.) Definately yes! It´s better recording and reactions from fans are more positive than was reactions on Bananas album.
2.) I don´t know how in other countries, but in Czech Republic it´s really bad. emoticon Sad thing, but fact.
3.) I don´t know how many. I´m sure about Rapture, Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye, Junkyard Blues, Girls Like That and Before Time Began. I´ve been informed, that almost whole album was played in czech rock radio stations before gigs. And of course, all songs which have been played during gigs was played on radio - that means Things I Never Said and Wrong Man too. Almost whole recording.
4.) 90% positive, 10% negative. emoticon
5.) Better production, NO Bonus tracks (all 12 songs for everyone!), better promotion.
6.) I still love this album, and I have to say one thing - when I heard the songs from this album on gigs, I started to love that album even more. emoticon
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"I have just finished listening to Living Loud CD after a while and what amazes me when I compare it with Rapture is that 1)Morse's playing is much more imaginative on Relentless (and I don't count the Randy Rhoads parts), i.e. in Every Moment a Lifetime - his solo is very toucht and calmed down when compared to any solo on Rapture"

same thing with his solo stuff. I guess if more DP fans bothered to listen to Steve Morse Band records, they would see he is an awesome guitar player, a virtuoso and a very emotional player. They would also see that Morse shows less than 50 percent of his capabilities in DP. Personally I feel the rock n roll formula of DP restricts him too much. But it is just a hypothesis.




If Morse shows less than 50 percent of his capabilities in DP, he should leave the band.

If what you call "the rock'n roll formula of DP" restricts him in any way he should just leave.

Personally I don't think that he is restricted in any way- he just don't know how to play hard rock. DP should not change their music just to make him fit in better. They are a classic hard rock band, not a jazzrock band! They try to do what they do best, and if the guitarist can't keep [sign in to see URL], it's time to leave.
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