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Just finished watching the 72 legendary series "Team of the century" DVD. WOW! What a hockey. It happened a year before I was born so I wasn't able to watch it back then for obvious reasons and the DVD is not out yet in Russia so I had to order one from [sign in to see URL]. The picture quality is acceptable for the first 4 games in Canada and pretty awful for the Moscow games (I wonder why they didn't use the russian tapes but went for the broadcasts instead?) so I had to watch the last ones on my comp as the plazma screen revealed all the ... in such a crappy picture. The interviews are nice though they are done only from Canadian side and deal more with national pride then the game itself. Since the series are regarded milestones in both Canada and Russia (nobody remembers them as a failure here, as the Soviet Union was put on the map as a hockey superpower after them and went on to rule the world ice for 2 decades so it's as much a sourse of national pride for us as for canadians) the more balanced commentary would be more then welcome. But anyway, this is as good as it gets so far. I guess next time I visit my mother's grave I'll put some flowers on Kharlamov's grave nearby (he and Bobrov who was a 72 national team coach are buried on the same cemetary). The guy was fantastic (though of course he became The King late in the 70's). What really surprised me about the DVD is canadian commentator's style- it's much different in style to russian commentators who were/are much more emotional and analytical throughout the game. Now I wonder if they gonna put out other series from the 70's and 80's?

[sign in to see URL] think there was that guy, a journalist who promised to eat his own article if Team Canada will lose even one game! And of course he had to eat it after the very first one... emoticon
And of course the other legendary moment (for the russian fans) was when the first fights and violent playing by canadians happened (and nobody ever saw anything like that in russian hockey before which used to be rather polite) our great TV commentator Ozerov said an immortal phrase: "We don't need SUCH hockey!" It went on to become THE phrase (and the joke) of the year and was used for years to come on almost any occasion in life.

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Interesting. I only seem some clips from those games. They sure are legendary among the hockey fans.
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Just finished watching the 72 legendary series "Team of the century" DVD. WOW! What a hockey. It happened a year before I was born so I wasn't able to watch it back then for obvious reasons



I was 9 years old, they actually let us watch the final four games at school, live on TV.!

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The interviews are nice though they are done only from Canadian side and deal more with national pride then the game itself. Since the series are regarded milestones in both Canada and Russia (nobody remembers them as a failure here, as the Soviet Union was put on the map as a hockey superpower after them and went on to rule the world ice for 2 decades so it's as much a sourse of national pride for us as for canadians)

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It was a big shock to see how well the Soviets played as a TEAM. That's one of the most imporatant lessons learned from this series. We learned we couldn't just slap together a team of all star players not used to playing with one another, during the off season when they are out of shape, and expect to win anymore. Most of the Soviet national team played together on the Red Army team, and it was obvious right away.

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I guess next time I visit my mother's grave I'll put some flowers on Kharlamov's grave nearby (he and Bobrov who was a 72 national team coach are buried on the same cemetary).



All of us watching, even as children, could tell right away Kharlamov was an awsome player, we all loved watching him! How old was he when he died? It was a car accident wasnn't it?
 
He would have become a huge star in North America I am sure, just like Tretiak. I think the best single game I ever saw played between the two countries was new years eve 1975. Red Army vs Montreal Canadiens. Tretiak was UNBELIEVABLE! Montreal outshot them 38-13, but the final score was 3-3 tie. Here is a quote from Tretiak:"

"Peter Mahovlich, Yvan Cournoyer and I were named the best players of the game," remembers Tretiak. "The Montreal game made a lasting impression on us. As far as I'm concerned, this is what the game of hockey is all about - fast, full of combinations, rough but not rude with an exciting plot. Every little detail of that excellent night in Montreal comes back to me. I would love to play it all over again."

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And of course the other legendary moment (for the russian fans) was when the first fights and violent playing by canadians happened (and nobody ever saw anything like that in russian hockey before which used to be rather polite) our great TV commentator Ozerov said an immortal phrase: "We don't need SUCH hockey!" It went on to become THE phrase (and the joke) of the year and was used for years to come on almost any occasion in life.



I still remember watching the then Stanley Cup champs Philadelphia Flyers play the Red Army in 1976. The Flyers were ANIMAILS, but were also very good. They played so rough in the first period, the Russian team left the ice halfway through the first period. They came back about 15min later to finish the game. They lost 4-1.

For me Canada vs USSR will always be the golden age of hockey. Now most of the guys play together in the NHL, and you know what players each team will have. Back then, we had no idea what kind of talent we would be up against. It was very exciting time to watch hockey. emoticon
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 I've always been a might peeved that players who had signed contracts with the NHL's new rival, the WHA, weren't allowed to participate in the "Summit Series"... players who had been selected for "Team Canada" (parenthesized because it should've been called "Team NHL") like defenceman J.C. Tremblay, forwards Bobby Hull + Derek Sanderson, goaltenders Gerry Cheevers + Bernie [sign in to see URL] though he was on the roster, he was recovering from knee surgery incurred that past summer and couldn't play in the series - the GREATEST HOCKEY PLAYER WHO EVER LIVED - Bobby Orr.
 Still, the Soviets diaplyed a game that thoroughly miffed the NHL players, and certainly earned the respect of professional hockey players in North America. You still gotta give "Team Canada" mucho kudos for winning the final 3 games of the series in a decidely "hostile" environment - on the road in Moscow.
 As for the violence that Tony pointed out, the main difference was that the Canadians' violence was more overt and generally done with fisticuffs, while the Soviets' was more in the line of 'stickwork' - buttending, slashing + crosschecking. I'm not saying one is better than the other, it's just that due to differences in the backgrounds + upbringings of the players on each side, each thought the other side was "playing dirty". Ah, [sign in to see URL] the great Gordie Howe said 40 - 45 years ago when an interviewer was crying about the level of violence + physical contact that was/is condoned as part of the game of hockey - "It's a man's game."

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I've always been a might peeved that players who had signed contracts with the NHL's new rival, the WHA, weren't allowed to participate in the "Summit Series"... players who had been selected for "Team Canada" (parenthesized because it should've been called "Team NHL" like defenceman J.C. Tremblay, forwards Bobby Hull + Derek Sanderson, goaltenders Gerry Cheevers + Bernie [sign in to see URL] though he was on the roster, he was recovering from knee surgery incurred that past summer and couldn't play in the series - the GREATEST HOCKEY PLAYER WHO EVER LIVED - Bobby Orr.



I agree, it was "Team Canada NHL" thats a fact. I think alot of the executives in charge of organizing the series, along with some of the players, never realized how good the Soviets really were. If they had, they would have found a way to get all the best players on the team.

They got it right in 1976, when they started the "Canada Cup". All the best on one team. Orr, Hull, etc. We were all ready for another showdown with the USSR, and then the Czech's beat them! Canada had to play the Czechs in the final. Bobby Orr was tournament MVP. emoticon
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 Bobby Orr was tournament MVP. emoticon





 The amazing thing about Orr winning the MVP of that series was that he won essentialy on one leg.

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ByTor, I don't think the game was "rough". It was pure violence. Who was the Russian player whose ankle Clarke broke with a huge swing?

Not to take anything away from the Flyers' victory, but it was about winning with any means.
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Rezi~I think the "ankle breaking" incident you refer to was actually from the 1972 series, I am pretty sure they discuss it on the DVD that the REAL TONY MANERO has. Not one of our proudest moments to be sure! It was the great Kharlamov who was injured. Perhaps you got it confused because it was Bobby Clarke who did it, and he was the Flyers captain at the time.

The Flyers vs Red Army game was a wild affair. The Red Army left the ice after Kharlamov took a hard body check, and no penalty was called.

All these great games are fairly fresh in my memory because, due to the current NHL strike, the sports channels here have been replaying them on a fairly regular basis.
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Just finished watching the 72 legendary series "Team of the century" DVD. WOW! What a hockey. It happened a year before I was born so I wasn't able to watch it back then for obvious reasons



I was 9 years old, they actually let us watch the final four games at school, live on TV.!

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The interviews are nice though they are done only from Canadian side and deal more with national pride then the game itself. Since the series are regarded milestones in both Canada and Russia (nobody remembers them as a failure here, as the Soviet Union was put on the map as a hockey superpower after them and went on to rule the world ice for 2 decades so it's as much a sourse of national pride for us as for canadians)

.

It was a big shock to see how well the Soviets played as a TEAM. That's one of the most imporatant lessons learned from this series. We learned we couldn't just slap together a team of all star players not used to playing with one another, during the off season when they are out of shape, and expect to win anymore. Most of the Soviet national team played together on the Red Army team, and it was obvious right away.

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I guess next time I visit my mother's grave I'll put some flowers on Kharlamov's grave nearby (he and Bobrov who was a 72 national team coach are buried on the same cemetary).



All of us watching, even as children, could tell right away Kharlamov was an awsome player, we all loved watching him! How old was he when he died? It was a car accident wasnn't it?
 
He would have become a huge star in North America I am sure, just like Tretiak. I think the best single game I ever saw played between the two countries was new years eve 1975. Red Army vs Montreal Canadiens. Tretiak was UNBELIEVABLE! Montreal outshot them 38-13, but the final score was 3-3 tie. Here is a quote from Tretiak:"

"Peter Mahovlich, Yvan Cournoyer and I were named the best players of the game," remembers Tretiak. "The Montreal game made a lasting impression on us. As far as I'm concerned, this is what the game of hockey is all about - fast, full of combinations, rough but not rude with an exciting plot. Every little detail of that excellent night in Montreal comes back to me. I would love to play it all over again."

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And of course the other legendary moment (for the russian fans) was when the first fights and violent playing by canadians happened (and nobody ever saw anything like that in russian hockey before which used to be rather polite) our great TV commentator Ozerov said an immortal phrase: "We don't need SUCH hockey!" It went on to become THE phrase (and the joke) of the year and was used for years to come on almost any occasion in life.



I still remember watching the then Stanley Cup champs Philadelphia Flyers play the Red Army in 1976. The Flyers were ANIMAILS, but were also very good. They played so rough in the first period, the Russian team left the ice halfway through the first period. They came back about 15min later to finish the game. They lost 4-1.

For me Canada vs USSR will always be the golden age of hockey. Now most of the guys play together in the NHL, and you know what players each team will have. Back then, we had no idea what kind of talent we would be up against. It was very exciting time to watch hockey. emoticon




Kharlamov died in 1981 in a car accident. I think he was about 30 or something.
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Well just finished watching the russian documentary DVD. Great one, superb comments from both russian and canadian players and lots of rare footage. Some surprises too. One is that we have to thank Brezhnev (!) for the fact that these series happened at all. It was a political dessision back them and most members of Communist Politburo were against the idea as everybody expected a disaster. The sports minister promised that he will resign if our team fails to win even a single game (nobody could have imagined that it would become an equal battle but the guy was pretty smart - he knew that Munich Olympics would take place at the same time and USSR was expected to win so he would be forgiven and in the end he was as we got 50 golden medals in Germany) and Suslov (the grey cardinal of the Kremlin back then, a harline arsehole equal to none) was hystericaly against the idea. The guy never thought about sports, he only thought that a 0:8 result against a capitalist country would be a horrible propaganda move. Then Brezhnev (who was a hockey maniac) insisted that "it's not a tragedy, let's see what happenes!" I guess deep inside as a fan he simply wanted to see the game and was curious to see the legendary canadian pros in action as well! Of course he had a final say and thus it all happened. Another great moment: a famous russian magician Julius Kio (russian Copperfield back then) came to the first game in Moscow without a ticket. The cops said: "we don't care who you are, you've got no ticket - you can perform the trick of a lifetime here, try to penetrate the Luzhniki walls!", so then his manager (who had an invitation) got inside, came up to the coach and said: We got a real magician here, do you want to win this game or not?" And of course the coach got the guy a ticket. The game (game 5) was won so then a coach came up to Kio and asked him to be a guest for the last 3 games. But Kio had to go on tour and the rest is history...

P.S. Too bad the russian DVD doesn't have an english translation or subtitles, you guys would have a blast watching it!

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