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Just thought I'd let you know that there is a new article about Joe on [sign in to see URL]
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"...revered at the time amongst rock vocalists for sporting one of the longest, most powerful screams in rock and roll." Errr, is this the JLT we all know and love we're talking about?! emoticon
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Maybe it's another article sponsored by the JLT Fan Club, judging by that quote. emoticon

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Christos Gatzidis wrote:

"...revered at the time amongst rock vocalists for sporting one of the longest, most powerful screams in rock and roll." Errr, is this the JLT we all know and love we're talking about?! emoticon



 I have it on authority that it was a misquote
it should read
"reverred at the time, and to this day amongst Rock posers for sporting the most annoying "Deliverance" style squeeling in Rock n Roll"
Sorry for any inconvenience it may have caused anyone.


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RS's version is very nearly right, but he's made typo - it should read: " Reviled at the time..... " emoticon
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PS - I really should lay off slagging JLT, cos the stuff he's doing now is much better suited to his voice and infinitely more listenable emoticon
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Cute...

Hey, everyone has their own opinion on what makes for good rock and roll. But insulting someone's journalistic integrity is something else. We're not a fanzine, and we don't cater to the whims of fan clubs or publicists.

While I can see why you're accusing us of editorializing, I wrote that statement as fact and stand by it; when I was a singer in the early 80's, every up and coming rock vocalist I knew (local and national level) wanted to learn how to scream like Joe Lynn Turner. And they were all running to classical vocal coaches to try to learn how, because his technique was such that if done properly, the singer wouldn't injure himself. Perhaps I should have added that tidbit to the article to make it more [sign in to see URL] whether or not you personally find JLT's sound pleasing, it is a fact.

But hey, at least you read the article! emoticon And we hope you'll come back sometime.

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Hi Randi. I can appreciate how you're approaching this, and I'm glad you're taking it in good humour (we mostly do here... mostly emoticon )

The snag is that amongst Deep Purple fans (as opposed to journalists or others who "don't cater to the whims of fan clubs or publicists"), it is apparent that the majority of us here know Turner from just two or three bands of the many he was worked for - Rainbow, Deep Purple, and his latest work with Glenn Hughes. I accept that if more of us knew more of his back catalogue opinions might just be amended, but this is the Deep Purple Fan Forum, and we, like you, are free to voice our opinions.

The Rainbow material involving JLT, whilst not what every rock fan would have hoped for, did exceptionally well because it was ultimately aimed fairly and squarely at the AOR American radio market (and good luck to them, I trust they were well rewarded for their efforts).

The wheels really fell off when JLT replaced Ian Gillan in Deep Purple. I use the word 'replaced' advisedly. Although that line-up undoubtedly has some fans, the overwhelming verdict is that Joe, as a singer and frontman, was totally unsuitable within the set-up of a classic 'British' rock group, and any straw poll you care to take amongst Deep Purple fans here will inevitably reveal the album he recorded with them as the worst the band ever released. The article linked above includes: "A stint as the vocalist for a re-vamped Deep Purple in 1990 followed, with Slaves and Masters receiving airplay with the single, "King of Dreams." But internal drama reared its ugly head again, and soon JLT was off to work on another solo album." What 'Internal drama'? Why not simply say that that the rest of the band realised, albeit belatedly, that JLT was incapable of doing justice to the music they had built their fame upon, and was told not to come back.

Now, all that said, this is far from a hate campaign. His latest work is far better honed to his particular vocal style and works really well in conjunction with an ever-improving Glenn Hughes. HTP is great (Mystery of the Heart is one of the best ballads I've heard in recent years!) and from reports I have heard HTP II is even better. I wish him well with it, and I am on record on our previous forum saying just that.

Your integrity is not in question. View are expressed freely and frankly here (sometimes too frankly but that's another story emoticon ) and as a journalist you are free to enjoy the same right. Some testimonials from other singers would be welcomed, if they strengthen your case that "every up and coming rock vocalist I knew (local and national level) wanted to learn how to scream like Joe Lynn Turner." But how many of them went on to be famous New Jersey commercial jingle singers?

You may well believe it is 'cute' that some find JLT's performances in the past fell well short of perfection, but in the context of a fan forum dedicated to what we believe is one of the greatest rock bands ever to emerge from the UK, JLT does not play much of a role.

I do not doubt for a moment that JLT was coached by a classical voice tutor - good for him, he was trying to better himself. But heading the article:

"Rediscovered Talent:
Joe Lynn Turner: The Pavarotti of Rock" ??????

If I were Luciano, I'd be calling my lawyer! emoticon
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quote:

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 when I was a singer in the early 80's, every up and coming rock vocalist I knew (local and national level) wanted to learn how to scream like Joe Lynn Turner. And they were all running to classical vocal coaches to try to learn how, because his technique was such that if done properly, the singer wouldn't injure himself. Perhaps I should have added that tidbit to the article to make it more [sign in to see URL] whether or not you personally find JLT's sound pleasing, it is a fact.

But hey, at least you read the article! emoticon And we hope you'll come back sometime.

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You have got to be joking right? I have seen The Squeely One many times with DP and Rainbow along with many boots and videos. I have heard him attempt to scream, however it comes across more as a high pitched squeel, kinda like the guy who squeels like a pig in "Deliverance". If it were any higher, which I wish it would be, it would be in the same frequency as a dog whistle and we wouldn't be subject to it at all but you'd have to watch your step when leaving the Theatre.
 He does have a good Pop voice, but hard rockk and screaming is certainly not his forte'.
 I would love to hear if any of those up and coming Rock vocalists (local and national) who wanted to learn to scream like JLS have done anything. I live in New Jersey and have known many musicians from the local scene and don't know of any who would want to emulate or take lessons from The Squeely One.


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I can't beleive this guy,
he has got to be confusing JLT with Ian Gillan or
Glenn Hughes.
The only thing JLT has held is the same friggen wig squire boy hairdo for the last 20 years or so.

Man this guy is talking out of the side of his neck. emoticon
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