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lets not forget that when Gillan was sacked in 1989, he and Payne were not best of friends......IG even referring to him as a !@#$ in a press conference.
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I guess for BP it's rather a matter of a)more money b)easier people to control c)less risky business.



I don´t blame a manager for it !! he´s a manager, not a artist !! So he´s in it for the business ! If i were a manager i would stay where the money and better conditions were ! I don´t see anything bad in this !!
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He should be able to manage both.
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Why does RB hate IG so much when his most successful albums he has ever made were with IG in it?



Didn't RB also have some other band where he didn't wear tights and codpieces? I think it was called Rainbow.

Some Rainbow albums sold more albums than Deep Purple's with Blackmore.

And let's not forget that Deep Purple first hit single was without Gillan and Burn was successful.
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d) A few times...problem is, the reasons seem to change every now and then or be slightly altered here & there in the details,



Typically Blackmore !!!
I've always thought, in spite of his denials, that Blackmore left in November with, in mind, the idea DP could not survive the Jap Tour : one month to find a guitarist good enough to be a replacement was a real challenge, to say the least !!!

Maybe was it unconscious but it's a fact...and I'm happy DP did it !!

Anyway, we must at least admit that Blackmore never did a thing against DP since then (nothing legally and very few in interviews at the exception of Gillan and the nostalgic argument), in all cases, much less than DP towards him (constant bashing in interviews)
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MrEd45 wrote:
d) A few times...problem is, the reasons seem to change every now and then or be slightly altered here & there in the details,



Typically Blackmore !!!
I've always thought, in spite of his denials, that Blackmore left in November with, in mind, the idea DP could not survive the Jap Tour : one month to find a guitarist good enough to be a replacement was a real challenge, to say the least !!!

Maybe was it unconscious but it's a fact...and I'm happy DP did it !!

Anyway, we must at least admit that Blackmore never did a thing against DP since then (nothing legally and very few in interviews at the exception of Gillan and the nostalgic argument), in all cases, much less than DP towards him (constant bashing in interviews)







 Maybe I lacked a bit of specificity in my first post on this thread/topic; Blackmore didn't just 'walk off' totally abruptly - he had given the band (and management, I'd imagine) a written notice of his intention to leave the group approimately & at least one month prior to the last gig he played as a member of Deep Purple in November of 1993. My feeling is that he still should've 'stuck it out' 'til any prior committments the band had made to play live shows (the Japanese ones, in particular) were satisfied. Now, understand - I'm still a little 'torn' about this, because if Blackmore had've played the Japanese shows, I (and lots of others) would never have had the opportunity to enjoy Satriani's magnificent playing on "Flying In A Purple Dream" & "The Battle" (two bootlegs of the Japanese shows) .
 Yes, I fully acknowledge that Blakmore has rarely - but he still has - 'bashed' or 'trashed' Deep Purple. Understandably - to me, anyway - most of the 'bad' things Blackmore had to say were said immediately (for the most part, usually within 1 to 3 years) after his severing of his ties with Deep Purple. Mostly either neutral or indifferently toned comments since around the late '90s. There was the comment about looking into suing Glover for the Anniversary re-mixes where Glover used some old 'alternate' guitar work Blackmore had recorded decades before...my feeling about that was that it was just another case of Blackmore 'giving the interviewer & readers what he probably thought they wanted to read/hear' was all - in other words, not close to 100% serious, but something that Blackmore knew would raise some eyebrows.
 My feeling is that, yes, most of the 'bashing' or 'trash talking' does seem to come from the Deep Purple camp and from Gillan in particular. To be honest, except for some pretty honest and mostly widely held perceptions regarding Blackmore's difficult nature, Glover has had nothing but positive things (in my opinion) to say about Blackmore.

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I will go out on a limb and say that ALL DP albums with Gillan in them sold more than any Rainbow album...
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I will go out on a limb and say that ALL DP albums with Gillan in them sold more than any Rainbow album...



I don't have the figures, but I'd be surprised if Abandon or Bananas sold more than albums made when Rainbow were commercially-minded (e.g. Down To Earth or Difficult To Cure).
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A riddle:

Who is managing the manager?

Any suggestions?

Could be Iggy!!!


Kasper
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Blackmore didn't just 'walk off' totally abruptly - he had given the band (and management, I'd imagine) a written notice of his intention to leave the group approimately & at least one month prior to the last gig he played as a member of Deep Purple in November of 1993.


Blackmore had decided to leave the band and let them know in Pragues, Oct 30th so 18 days before his final gig
He tore his visa in Rotterdam, Nov 3rd after he had found out that Mr Udo had not been informed he had quit...
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My feeling is that he still should've 'stuck it out' 'til any prior committments the band had made to play live shows (the Japanese ones, in particular) were satisfied.


Undoubtedly !!
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I (and lots of others) would never have had the opportunity to enjoy Satriani's magnificent playing on "Flying In A Purple Dream" & "The Battle" (two bootlegs of the Japanese shows) .


I do prefer the european dates, Satriani did know more the songs and was more "relaxed", and who knows if he had not been anyway the guitarist on the european 94 tour after Blackmore's leaving ?
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my feeling about that was that it was just another case of Blackmore 'giving the interviewer & readers what he probably thought they wanted to read/hear' was all - in other words, not close to 100% serious, but something that Blackmore knew would raise some eyebrows.


It would not surprise me !!
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