"Here I go again"- Three chapters https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/t2798 Runboard| "Here I go again"- Three chapters en-us Fri, 29 Mar 2024 09:03:31 +0000 Fri, 29 Mar 2024 09:03:31 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51769,from=rss#post51769https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51769,from=rss#post51769Remixing original material is not popular among fans who got used to it(apart from that sometimes remixes are as good as original: i.e. DP 25th Anniversary CD's). Replacing parts is however, something different - can you think of "Ready & Willing" re-recorded by actual Whitesnake line-up just because of Bernie 's version of "Here I Go Again". (or on the other hand: Martin/Marsden/Moody playing on "1987" instead of Coverdale/Sykes - leaving only bass lines by Neil Murray - will be a bit silly as well). Re-recordings of "Eternal Idol" were made due to the fact that Ray Gillen departed and Iommi didn't want to promote new material with vocalist who didn't sing it on the album (such situation happened on 7th Star Tour when Glenn was fired). -------------------------- Still waiting for Ozzy rejoining Sabbath - damned The Osbournes...nondisclosed_email@example.com (wcanaris)Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:37:43 +0000 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51768,from=rss#post51768https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51768,from=rss#post51768quote:Partially. Basically, the musicians who had played drums and bass on the original album commented negatively regarding the Osbournes show, so during the remastering process of the album, the current bass player and drummer of Ozzy's band re-recorded those partsA lot like what happened with Black Sabbath's Eternal Idol? Ray Gillen was the vocalist with whom the album was recorded, but Tony Martin came in soon after, so they re-recorded the album with Martin's voice.nondisclosed_email@example.com (ArjunM)Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:58:45 +0000 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51767,from=rss#post51767https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51767,from=rss#post51767But seriously I don´t think that "Here I Go Again Again Again Again" would be a good idea...nondisclosed_email@example.com (Milan Fahrnholz)Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:49:41 +0000 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51766,from=rss#post51766https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51766,from=rss#post51766quote:snakehead wrote: quote:Retro900 wrote: Maybe a chapter 4 should be added due to the release of Miss Mukupa's version, featuring Bernie. To make it even worser? ;-) Or worserer! nondisclosed_email@example.com (Milan Fahrnholz)Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:48:30 +0000 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51765,from=rss#post51765https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51765,from=rss#post51765quote:Retro900 wrote: Maybe a chapter 4 should be added due to the release of Miss Mukupa's version, featuring Bernie. To make it even worser? ;-) nondisclosed_email@example.com (snakehead)Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:45:21 +0000 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51764,from=rss#post51764https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51764,from=rss#post51764Maybe a chapter 4 should be added due to the release of Miss Mukupa's version, featuring Bernie. THEN AGAIN MAYBE NOT lol nondisclosed_email@example.com (Retro900)Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:51:46 +0000 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51763,from=rss#post51763https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51763,from=rss#post51763quote:JohnH wrote: quote:DazSnake01 wrote:  Basically, the musicians who had played drums and bass on the original album commented negatively regarding the Osbournes show Oh god....a few weeks ago my brother was playing this (just bought CD) and said "hey it's the original right?" After carefully examining the copyright date and liner notes I told him he needed to take it back and I would burn him the original. Now instead of Ozzy and the Rhoads family getting royalties they are not, because of his stupid wife Sharon. What a fricking joke. F them! This particular episode of the Osbournes replacing the parts is a travesty! John  Well, DazSnake + John, you both should be as delighted as I was to know that this upcoming season of that horrendous program "The Osbournes" is (supposedly!) the final one. But, given Ozzy's - or is Sharon's? - propensity for innumerable "farewells", it wouldn't surprise me very much if it doesn't turn out to be the case.  It is a typical reaction of these types that they're apparently genuinely stunned when thier "reality" shows and/or thier "roles" in/on the shows get negative reviews/reactions from people - thier peers and otherwise. What arrogant, out-of-touch pinheads. nondisclosed_email@example.com (MrEd45)Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:24:28 +0000 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51762,from=rss#post51762https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51762,from=rss#post51762quote:DazSnake01 wrote: quote:ArjunM wrote: quote:And Ozzy got caned for doing this type of thing to Blizzard of Oz.I would like to knwo what happened there. Re-recordings of Blizzard? Partially. Basically, the musicians who had played drums and bass on the original album commented negatively regarding the Osbournes show, so during the remastering process of the album, the current bass player and drummer of Ozzy's band re-recorded those parts. Oh god....a few weeks ago my brother was playing this (just bought CD) and said "hey it's the original right?" After carefully examining the copyright date and liner notes I told him he needed to take it back and I would burn him the original. Now instead of Ozzy and the Rhoads family getting royalties they are not, because of his stupid wife Sharon. What a fricking joke. F them! This particular episode of the Osbournes replacing the parts is a travesty! John nondisclosed_email@example.com (JohnH)Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:32:46 +0000 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51761,from=rss#post51761https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51761,from=rss#post51761Chapter 1- The original in the series, it is quite raw, and has some energy, which is the the best part of the song. It lacks the power that the later versions have. Moreover, that shriek is irritating. Chapter 2- The next version has more power, the guitars are louder and one word is changed- thankfully, "hobo" becomes "drifter". However, a slight soupy, romantic feel weighs it down. Looks like that irritating screech is still left behind there. Chapter 3- The final version doesn't start softly, but instead, it is hard and vigorous throughout its length, but it doesn't run long. Moreover, it has a candlelit romance feel which gets nearly as irritating as that screech that they have removed. That guitar solo isn't good either. Very hard to choose from the three versions.nondisclosed_email@example.com (ArjunM)Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:38:47 +0000 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51760,from=rss#post51760https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51760,from=rss#post51760Shortlist 1.Saints & Sinners (Lord "church"organ intro) 2.1987-LP-version 3.US Single remix 4.Starkers in Tokyo (unplugged) Live Situations 1a. Saints & Sinners Live Versions 1982 - 1984 1b. pre-1987, Richard Bailey replaces Lord, ditches organ 2a.1987 intro with US Remix rhythm on verse 2, since 1987 2b. remake of old version with 1987glitches on "Farewell Tour" 1987 2c. remake of 1987 version with "oldeVersion Glitches" since 2003. 3a. Marsden & Moody do a pop-feel unplugged version. 3b. On Tony Ashton Tribute show, Bernie Mardsen does a bluesier unplugged version with Jon Lord running fast on accompanying organ. 3c. TheSnakes/CompanyofSnakes/M§ do Saints&Sinners version, though lacking a certain Power. Full Circle.nondisclosed_email@example.com (haedp)Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:42:47 +0000 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51759,from=rss#post51759https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51759,from=rss#post51759quote:I would like to knwo what happened there. Re-recordings of Blizzard? Here's the story. Interestingly one of the musicians involved has a Rainbow connection (Bass player during the Long Live Rock and Roll era) http://www.bobdaisley.com/remaster_main_links_info.htm nondisclosed_email@example.com (Diostillrocks)Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:59:02 +0000 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51758,from=rss#post51758https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51758,from=rss#post51758quote:ArjunM wrote: quote:And Ozzy got caned for doing this type of thing to Blizzard of Oz.I would like to knwo what happened there. Re-recordings of Blizzard? Partially. Basically, the musicians who had played drums and bass on the original album commented negatively regarding the Osbournes show, so during the remastering process of the album, the current bass player and drummer of Ozzy's band re-recorded those parts.nondisclosed_email@example.com (DazSnake01)Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:20:53 +0000 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51757,from=rss#post51757https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51757,from=rss#post51757quote:And Ozzy got caned for doing this type of thing to Blizzard of Oz.I would like to knwo what happened there. Re-recordings of Blizzard?nondisclosed_email@example.com (ArjunM)Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:54:16 +0000 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51756,from=rss#post51756https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51756,from=rss#post51756Alan Pasqua was also the keyboard player in Giantnondisclosed_email@example.com (tamadam2)Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:55:01 +0000 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51755,from=rss#post51755https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51755,from=rss#post51755quote:DazSnake01 wrote: quote:Big J wrote: Yes, the Radio mix band is all session musicians I believe. Dan Huff was in AOR gods Giant - also produced Megadeth. Thanks for the info. So presumably this was recorded after the Sykes lineup went and before the 'Still Of The Night' video musicians were hired? http://homepage.ntlworld.com/nigel.d.young/whtsnake/snake3.htm#1987 Radio version recorded Feb-March 87, "video" line-up put together in March 87. Vandenberg was obviously about for the Radio Mix recording. As for the others, Aldridge/Sarzo were probably hired together (they had a band called Driver which they ditched to join WS), not sure when Campbell was approached. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Big J)Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:45:33 +0000 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51754,from=rss#post51754https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51754,from=rss#post51754Dan Huff is a stellar studio musician that has played on countless hits and platinum albums. There's even a longstanding rumour he did all of the guitar work on Warrant's first album. Just look at the incredible list of sessions near the bottom of this page: http://members.aol.com/guitarron/dannhuff/dannhuff.htm Some of it's shlock never heard of, but alot of it is multi platinum hit material and Here I Go is mentioned. Johnnondisclosed_email@example.com (JohnH)Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:01:08 +0000 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51753,from=rss#post51753https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51753,from=rss#post51753quote:snakehead wrote: According to Nigel's site these people recorded the re-mix: David Coverdale/Vocals Dan Huff/Guitar Adrian Vandenberg/Guitar Bill Cuomo/Keyboards and keyboard bass Denny Carmassi/Drums Mark Andes/Bass Alan Pasqua/Keyboards Tommy Funderburk/Vocals That´s also what the booklett of the Greatest Hits CD(1994) says.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Milan Fahrnholz)Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:36:34 +0000 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51752,from=rss#post51752https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51752,from=rss#post51752According to Nigel's site these people recorded the re-mix: David Coverdale/Vocals Dan Huff/Guitar Adrian Vandenberg/Guitar Bill Cuomo/Keyboards and keyboard bass Denny Carmassi/Drums Mark Andes/Bass Alan Pasqua/Keyboards Tommy Funderburk/Vocals nondisclosed_email@example.com (snakehead)Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:35:00 +0000 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51751,from=rss#post51751https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51751,from=rss#post51751quote:Big J wrote: Yes, the Radio mix band is all session musicians I believe. Dan Huff was in AOR gods Giant - also produced Megadeth. Thanks for the info. So presumably this was recorded after the Sykes lineup went and before the 'Still Of The Night' video musicians were hired? nondisclosed_email@example.com (DazSnake01)Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:34:20 +0000 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51750,from=rss#post51750https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51750,from=rss#post51750Yes, the Radio mix band is all session musicians I believe. Dan Huff was in AOR gods Giant - also produced Megadeth.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Big J)Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:23:50 +0000 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51749,from=rss#post51749https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51749,from=rss#post51749Dan Huff (who?) plays on the US remix. It's probably the most radio-friendly track Whitesnake ever produced... it's *that* clean!nondisclosed_email@example.com (DazSnake01)Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:15:53 +0000 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51748,from=rss#post51748https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51748,from=rss#post51748The 87 version is the one most people know, it's a tad cheesy, but very well made. The original is slower and bluesier with a good intro from Jon Lord, ironically it's this oldest version that sounds the least dated, probably the best version. The US single mix is a radio edit I think and I believe was recorded with the Aldridge, Vandenberg, Campbell, Sarzo and annonnymous keyboard player lineup. This is the weakest although isn't at all bad.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Beese)Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:10:39 +0000 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51747,from=rss#post51747https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51747,from=rss#post51747quote:Diostillrocks wrote: He also changed the lyrics slightly from the 1982 version to the 1987. He substituted the word "drifter" for "hobo". You mean the other way round? nondisclosed_email@example.com (DazSnake01)Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:22:27 +0000 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51746,from=rss#post51746https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51746,from=rss#post51746He also changed the lyrics slightly from the 1982 version to the 1987. He substituted the word "drifter" for "hobo".nondisclosed_email@example.com (Diostillrocks)Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:08:00 +0000 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51745,from=rss#post51745https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51745,from=rss#post51745The vocal on the 3rd version is different from the 1987 album. Personally, its the 1987 version I absolouely worship, but the original can't be falted for its integrity.nondisclosed_email@example.com (DazSnake01)Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:50:27 +0000 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51744,from=rss#post51744https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51744,from=rss#post51744Here I go again was written during the Saints and Sinners season in 1982. In 1987 Coverdale who thought that some songs fron previous albums were "burried" because of limitations of the "clasic whitesnake" lineup, re-recorded Here ago Again and Crying in the Rain for the self titled aubum. In 1989 he did the same thing for Fool for your Loving, a song from 1980. The third version was included in the Greatest hits album was recorded with sesion musicians (and with the suspection that Coverdale's voice was the same as in the 1987 version). I find the first version better, but the second version from 1987 did well in the charts.nondisclosed_email@example.com (afantos)Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:04:38 +0000 Re: "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51743,from=rss#post51743https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51743,from=rss#post51743There is only one real version of this song and that is the one to be found on Saints and Sinners. Accept no messing about with this song, they do not come close. And Ozzy got caned for doing this type of thing to Blizzard of Oz.nondisclosed_email@example.com (tamadam2)Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:09:37 +0000 "Here I go again"- Three chaptershttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51742,from=rss#post51742https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p51742,from=rss#post51742One of Whitesnake's most popular songs, "Here I go again", seems to have been made in three chapters- there's one from Saints and Sinners, the longest of the lot, then from Whitesnake, which seems the most popular one, then that radio edit from Greatest Hits (1994), still shorter. What's the difference?nondisclosed_email@example.com (ArjunM)Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:25:35 +0000