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But fans like that IMO aren't the sort stars want because they are in effect using a persona as a vehicle for their own inadquacies.

Ultimately it is weakness that stimulates this negative kind of adulation.



Aha!

a) so because somebody didn´t feel Bolin was right for the band, they have inadquacies? Mind you Bolin wasn´t right for Deep Purple, was he. Shot up in heroin so he couldn´t do his job.

b) because I don´t feel Morse is right for any rock group, I have inadquacies?

Ad b) Morse didn´t replace Blackmore! He replaced Satriani who recieved a huge welcome, despite he replaced Blackmore. It was, as usual, a major no-brainer in the DP camp.
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HI Michael

Long time gone, skriv lige til den gamle
mand fra Fredericia.

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HI Michael

Long time gone, skriv lige til den gamle
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Hej.

Hvis du ikke ser min PM, min e-mail er michael (at) momberg (dot) dk

Jeg har desværre mistet din.
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People like Blackmore always had an army of fans that would accept no other to the point of savagery. But fans like that IMO aren't the sort stars want because they are in effect using a persona as a vehicle for their own inadquacies.

Ultimately it is weakness that stimulates this negative kind of adulation.



Hallelujah! Well done! Congratulations!
I take my hat off to you!

I am framing this quote.
This is probably one of the most sensible things about fans and what drives them I have ever read on this Forum.



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People like Blackmore always had an army of fans that would accept no other to the point of savagery. But fans like that IMO aren't the sort stars want because they are in effect using a persona as a vehicle for their own inadquacies.

Ultimately it is weakness that stimulates this negative kind of adulation.



Hallelujah! Well done! Congratulations!
I take my hat off to you!




You all seem to miss the fact that a lot of those (me included) that do not like Morse in Purple, are _not_ die hard Blackmore fans. I don´t waste my money on Blackmore these days, and likewise I don´t waste them on MkMorse´s only guitar solo. I despise what both parties does. There´s plenty of music that is better. That was _not_ the case 5 years ago, but today both are living jokes.

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jond wrote:

People like Blackmore always had an army of fans that would accept no other to the point of savagery. But fans like that IMO aren't the sort stars want because they are in effect using a persona as a vehicle for their own inadquacies.

Ultimately it is weakness that stimulates this negative kind of adulation.



Hallelujah! Well done! Congratulations!
I take my hat off to you!




You all seem to miss the fact that a lot of those (me included) that do not like Morse in Purple, are _not_ die hard Blackmore fans. I don´t waste my money on Blackmore these days, and likewise I don´t waste them on MkMorse´s only guitar solo. I despise what both parties does. There´s plenty of music that is better. That was _not_ the case 5 years ago, but today both are living jokes.




I was congratulating jond on his insight into fans in general rather than any particular flavour of DP guitarist fan, or organist fan, for that matter.


Its the savagery that's gone on in the past that gets to me. Actually, I think most of this thread has been humourous and pretty good natured. Its made me laugh a couple of times, and that ain't no bad thing in this life!

In the end, some people may find this hard to understand, the band make me smile and laugh more than anything else, and as long as they continue to do that I will give them some of my time and money.



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a) That Blackmore was a hard act to follow is well documented, particularly where Tommy Bolin was concerned.

b) People like Blackmore always had an army of fans that would accept no other to the point of savagery. But fans like that IMO aren't the sort stars want because they are in effect using a persona as a vehicle for their own inadquacies.

c) Ultimately it is weakness that stimulates this negative kind of adulation.






a) Yup, Blackmore's virtuosity and creativity as Deep Purple's guitarist most certainly did make him a 'hard act to follow' - for any guitarist.

b) Any fan who takes anything regarding anyone whose work/talent they admire to a 'point of savagery' has taken the word 'fan' is derived from (fanatic) to it's worst logical extension.

c) If this 'adulation' reaches the 'point of savagery', then I have to think that the perpetrator would've grasped onto almost anything or anybody in order to express their weakness..."What? No extra bowl of 'Frosted Flakes'?!? Then Tony Tiger orders me to kill you!" emoticon / emoticon
  I agree that it is a terrible thing, JonD, when people go overboard about an art or sports event...

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c) If this 'adulation' reaches the 'point of savagery', then I have to think that the perpetrator would've grasped onto almost anything or anybody in order to express their weakness..."What? No extra bowl of 'Frosted Flakes'?!? Then Tony Tiger orders me to kill you!" emoticon / emoticon
  I agree that it is a terrible thing, JonD, when people go overboard about an art or sports event...



I agree with the sentiment behind this. But I wouldn't be so glib about the "Tony Tiger" thing. Just look at what happened with the disgruntled Pantera fan and the "Dimebag" whathisname shooting. This is the example of fan(atical) savagery I'm always reminded of.


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I was congratulating jond


Madam, that is the best thing you've said since you last said it and I am touched by your heartfelt sentiment......hic! emoticon
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Aha!
a) so because somebody didn´t feel Bolin was right for the band, they have inadquacies? Mind you Bolin wasn´t right for Deep Purple, was he. Shot up in heroin so he couldn´t do his job.
b) because I don´t feel Morse is right for any rock group, I have inadquacies?
c) Morse didn´t replace Blackmore! He replaced Satriani who recieved a huge welcome, despite he replaced Blackmore. It was, as usual, a major no-brainer in the DP camp.



You're right about Satriani, of course. But wasn't he always going to be a stand in?
The comment I made about 'inadequacies' was aimed at the minority of fans who will treat a rock concert more as a football match than a celebration of music. And this is most usually because they seek some kind of reflected glory on the backs of those they adore....so to speak. I guess also that the crowd or mob mentality is at work.

Some things have happened at rock concerts that would put the old Stretford End to shame (fights, beatings, overdoses, murder etc.) and that's before the baiting, cat-calling and intimidation that can be suffered by unpopular band member replacements. That Tommy Bolin wasn't affected by this seems difficult to deny.

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